how much of the money from the ICE/tax cuts bill is just going to go to scammers, do you think? www.richmonder.org/this-tuckaho...
how much of the money from the ICE/tax cuts bill is just going to go to scammers, do you think? www.richmonder.org/this-tuckaho...
I'd be happy for scammers to run with it and not spend it on gulags and storm troopers.
Hopefully most!
Damn it I need to be defrauding DHS
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If “scammers” includes 🍊💩, then definitely most of it
Ideally, most of it. The more that goes to scammers, then the less that is used for detention. Choose the lesser evil.
I’ve heard it elsewhere that it is a morale duty to scam ICE dollars
FRAUD!
He will never say that Kristi Noem is his cousin or Tom Homan is his uncle or Stephen Miller is his immigration counselor. Cover, cover, cover. Grand Theft.
Government scammers. Don't be fooled. These are government run scams to hide money.
My thoughts exactly.
Definition: MONEY LAUNDERING.
OMG-thank you-that's it exactly. Stealing it and laundering it. Or laundering the funds they are stealing. The one thing that is a fact; MASSIVE CONS GOING ON!
And that is where they get all their campaign dollars from. It’s a never depleted bank account.
Trump is NO STRANGER to MONEY LAUNDERING. Add THIS to Trump & MAGAS in powers' growing list of CRIMINALITY.
You can BET that Trump is making BILLIONS off his scam...and all he had to do is add BILLIONS to spend on this BS in his Big Ugly bill. Trump only DOES if HE makes a "killing". America is his personal piggy bank.
And MAGA gave him a blank government check.
Hey, ANYTHING Trump wants, Trumps GETS under his MAGA Regime in all 3 branches of govt. And if someone dares not to give it to him, he will STEAL it anyway...then FIRE the one who did not comply.
There are a lot of judges stopping him across the country.
And Trrump appeals those court decisions up to SCOTUS for a wink & a nod. Either that or he just ignores the judges court orders. So far Trump has gotten ZERO consequences for his contempt of court orders.
Trump needs to be held accountable for STEALING taxpayers' money all while traumatizing & torturing those this racist & bigoted monster hates.
99.9%
This is $252,000 per bed for a 5000 person detention center... This human atrocity is also a huge grift... you could build 5000 homes for this price in El Paso County.
Prestige Worldwide?
I'm sure it's going to be WAY more than the amount of covid funds redirected by Trump during his first term.
this will be like PPE loans
I believe that the line between scam and service are soon to become meaningless.
Everyone with a large property should bid for an detention center contract and then just let everyone go.
Or build a 5000 bed women health facility on the site! Doesn't Texas need that? I'm wondering if that's why the first bid fell through. #goodintentions
I wonder if I could submit a bid and then rent a warehouse and just leave the doors unlocked. "Oh no, they all escaped! Those crafty immigrants!"
Honestly if the ICE money primarily goes to scammers that might be the best case scenario.
Billion. Billion. We can't fund pediatric cancer but we can throw money around for detention centers whose owners make millions with our tax money.
There’s always money for ethnic cleansing.
Paying RFK Jr's salary is definitely funding pediatric cancer. Not funding _fighting_ cancer, just the cancer itself.
all of this stuff is to enrich private entities alongside being needlessly cruel
Doesn't this qualify as waste and fraud? Not if ICE is scammed, I guess.
Same in Oregon. Multimillion $$$ contract with DHS for prison services is a business based in a modest house in the desert outside Bend, Oregon Who are they?
Can you share more?
Feels like this company is just a cut-out designed to feed large amounts of cash to sub-contractors who (were they to be directly awarded the funds) would perhaps draw negative public attention.
Grift, embezzlements, and kickbacks crossed my mind immediately after the ICE budget was made public.
The fleecing of America
well, i wonder how much of the scammer's money goes to kickbacks.
Smells real fishy.
OH it’s Skim-a-palooza
How many of these facilities will end up being tent cities surrounded by barbed wire and located next to winter agricultural land growing labor intensive crops that will need tending & harvesting? Concentration camps always initially try to support themselves with slavery.
There will be a staggering amount, fbi will have work for years
Damn criminals stealing our tax dollars.
So a lot of people are going to get rich at taxpayers expense. Who thought that giving billions of dollars to DHS to manage would end up in grifters hands?
They're just throwing money around like drunken sailors. Who is watching Fort Knox?
Damn.
like moths to a light, the grifters will be circling...
Nice house. Be a shame if something happened to it.
so much corruption - it's staggering how little this is being discussed.
Is Jared satisfied with the $2B he got from the bone saw murderer MBS in Saudi Arabia? Jared was the CPE Czar for a day and gave multi-million dollar contracts to his pals. They never delivered.
How many concentration camps are they building? They're creating a new prison industry. Scams are rampant! They start bribing judges to get convictions just to fill them with innocent people. Time to stop the ICE GESTAPO from kidnapping innocent immigrants so then we don't need this shit!
You now have a nation of scammers authorised by the Scammer in Chief.
This one shady contract is worth over half of the NSF cuts in the House GOP budget. So: cutting-edge research into basic sciences and engineering? Or mailing a check for a billion dollars to a random house promising to build prison camps? For GOP, it’s a no-brainer!
Or, accept a "free" plane from Qatar and divert $400+ million from the Sentinel ICBM program to retrofit it. 1st, accepting the plane makes the US look stupid. 2nd, diverting money from upgrading our nuke program just so the narcissistic little child can have a new toy is just pathetic.
I just asked for $2 billion to hold 2500 detainees in my spare room.
My guess is going to be about 60%. That may be lowballing it though.
I thought this administration was looking to save money???? They lied to everyone.
I'm disgusted that our new concentration camps are probably going to be built by shady contractors. An open and competitive bidding process is needed to ensure that American concentration camp construction is on the up and up. That's the American way!
This is Trump privatization at its best. Just like the privatized prison system we have nationally. Doesn’t this guy know Trump already? One of them does that just got taxpayer money from the Big Ugly Bill your kids and grandkids will be paying for…forever…
99% of it.
PPP all over again.
Just like Build the Wall in 2016, ICE is more about corruption than integrity. It's a money trough for the conservative pigs.
More than ever did with USAID, that's for goddamned sure
A lot of
99.95%
With this administration there is ‘Transparency’…the crimes are just out in the open
More than 100%, somehow.
And "Uncle Bob"
ha - that's nothin' when in power, australia's conservative govt gave a contract to a company, registered to a beach shack on an island worth $400+ million for offshore detention theconversation.com/secrecy-over...
birds of a feather
You mean funneled through scammers back to this administration.
Just like Covid money people didn't have to pay it back.
that part 👆🏾
ICE funding is a Black hole . Billions are being poured into it and it’s going to Oligarchs with kickbacks to the felon. We’re drowning in Debt
They are stealing all your tax dollars everyday.
#Everyday #AllDayLong #Thieves #CorruptGOP
Better question is how much isn’t.
$252,000 per bed
WTF 👁️👄👁️
I'm positive that that evil motherfucker Tim Ballard has received untold millions from this money pot
Shadowy shite
It’s pathetic but honestly a bunch of scammers just hoovering up these tax dollars so they can’t go towards creating actual torture prisons or expanding the secret police is probably best case scenario at this point
defrauding this particular federal government is necessary praxis
It is built in.
Except that cutting corners to spend as little on the prison part leads to people stuffed in even more inhumane spaces with worse conditions.
I’m saying I don’t think this person has or will actually construct a prison with the next few years. Maybe I’m wrong, but results don’t seem to be these people’s strong suit
"Yeah sure, give me a billion dollars, I'll throw em in a pit and ever now and then throw some water and slip on em and spend the rest on boats."
Here is the part of the ICE financials in the Big Ugly Bill! Neighborhoods are joining to monitor and fight ICE in their neighborhood, which is a good idea!
I’m getting some ideas… 🤔
1500%
They’re not even trying to hide it, are they?
This regime’s ICE “claims” to go after the “worst of the worst”… but REALITY is they’re hiring with $$$ incentives: greedy, power trip ASSHOLES who are the REAL “worst of the worst”!
This is ppp suppliers on a larger scale. Worse than the fake electric company contractors for Puerto Rico
Good lord, do you have a special asbestos suit for certain news-gathering?
At least 95% They'll save 5% for sadistic bullys.
Is he using his mommas home address as an LLC? 🧐
The least-bad scenario at this point is "90% of the ICE money goes to line the pockets of corrupt grifters rather than being spent on actual fascism"
Is this waste fraud and abuse?
Hadn’t thought about that yet… oh Duh
A crazy amount of scam money is about to go to "finding fraud, waste, and abuse" in healthcare, too- taxpayer money that WAS funding stuff like feeding the poor and doing science!
If the GOP is involved, all of it.
The real third-world country rule is 85%, so since that's where we are, that's what we should expect.
Hmm. This seems to fall under waste, fraud and abuse. Pretty swampy if you ask me.
On par with the covid profiteers.
Sooo many....
Most of it?
The whole Trump regime is nothing but a criminal organization looting the government of taxpayer dollars, so this is completely unsurprising.
If the number of political insiders who received PPP loan forgiveness and other pandemic benefits is any guide, I’d say lots
Let's get money out of every damn thing already.
42.7%
Thank Iraq War contractor level grifting, only on Hulk Hogan levels of steroids.
Maybe Erik Prince owns that house.
Waste, fraud, and abuse
The corruption is off the charts!!!
Lawd have mercy 😆
What's going to be great is when the Democrats get back in power, investigate all the scammers and then do nothing about it because they spent the first 9 months trying to form a bipartisan committee.
They will not
The new PPP scam www.ice.gov/news/release...
A lot. That might help save us, even.
Reminds me of PPP/covid fraud during 45 term
Scams and money laundering.
“contracting” in Iraq all over again, no doubt same cast of characters involved
And, how much of it is a giant money laundering scheme to put money into the pockets of Trump and MAGA loyalists?
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Money changers in the temple. What we need is a Jesus with a stick..
It’s like mega churches who don’t pay taxes yet ‘own’ multiple mansions and private planes for pastoral staff, meets PPP loan scammers, meets the usual military contractor grift in times of war (started under GOP admins).
All of it?
A lot?
Maybe there's a big chicken house out back!
Just like the PPE loans that were forgiven. More subsidies to the wealthy.
Can I get a billion dollars to house people in my home? At least they would be treated well. And they could come and go as they pleased.
All of it since the entire premise is a scam.
As much as Trump can get his cut of…
I hope journalists keep hounding government officials and this man until this is explained.
You know, if they just pocket the cash and never make a step of progress that would be a huge improvement over them actually building the thing
Who's on this? WTF is going on here?
Our best outcome is for Trump and his friends to steal it all.
The seller isn’t the scammer. It part & parcel of ALL the disruption & the appointments of extreme RW cronies, to seek out & devise opportunities to extract & divert our tax revenue & entitlement funds to support the oligarchy. DJT is an old hand money laundering in RE. He’s been living for this.
It’s going to be like the Covid contracts, but much worse.
A much bigger scale of fraud
all of it
Our country is being raped.
80% minimum
All of it is going to scammers
So it costs $250,000 to build the space for one inmate (not counting cost overruns). After that it cost $150,000 a year to house that inmate. Money well spent, I guess. If we didn’t do it, each of those inmates would be working, paying on average $9000 a year in taxes. Plus their productivity.
A human trafficking rendezvous point?
Explosive !
Hopefully all of the ICE money, at least.
Hmm...
The incredible graft and corruption might just save us from the ethnic cleansing and internment camps.
The thing that will save us from Nazi Germany is the incompetence of this regime.
I’ve been saying that for years. The Germans were highly competent. They tried to recreate that but with the absolute dumbest people
Even though they were competent, it was a mess. It was dangerous to report to management that things didn't work so people just faked successful reports. Trains did NOT run on time, but everybody pretended that they did.
Fake it till you make it
Narrator: they didn't make it
Trains aside, fairly sure they’re faking everything in this regime. So yes, Nazi Germany but now with 10x more incompetence! What could go wrong for them?
Then: competent people who wasn't allowed to think freely, so wasn't able to solve problems. Now: incompetent people who can't solve problems anyway.
Bingo
100%
An even higher proportion than war on terror funds
Oh completely normal…
Oof, just when you thought zoning policies couldn't get any worse.
Like, NIMBYs where I am are losing their minds about additional traffic in the neighborhood from a new K-5 school being begrudgingly built. And this thing gets funded?
Insure there are plenty the one in my state (concentration camp) has taken hundreds of millions from the people
Hopefully all of it
We will be reaching PPP levels of scams
Every last dime that isn’t going into trump’s own pocket
ALL of it.
maybe he had a basement
Why does it say “Future Home of the Ivanka Shoe Factory” out front?
Time to invest in short term rentals.
Full on corruption
Slave houses.
Scammers would be preferable to actually spending it on Stephen Miller's ICE priorities
That was my thinking when reading this as well. I'd rather see that money being wasted than being used for the intended purposes. I still can't wrap my head around why the interment camp(s) haven't been razed to the ground yet.
Great. Our own private torture centers.
Comrads would operate an ICE detention facility something along the lines of Winston University: take the $1.2B, split that with the inmates, and they only have to show up for parent’s day. (Minus the “we’ll kill you” part) youtu.be/qkKMxcNQSMs?...
So, he’s a wyt supremacist nzi and his last name is Wagner..?
A lot will go to scams and boondoggles by design.
lots and lots and lots
I can’t count that high.
Well, this is an admiration scam. What are they going to split this billion dollars 💸
This is the kind of stuff that you see in countries that eventually have the IMF move in and take over their finances. After selling off all the public utilities and public lands.
I'm torn. Wouldn't it be somewhat better if the money went to dumb corruption rather than actual concentration camp construction?
A lot. They got CIA walking around Afghanistan with bags of cash money.
The Acquisition Logistics Company 502 Branway Drive. Richmond, Virginia 23229 804-339-8787 contact@acq-log.com
Follow the $. Dig. Someone will find something that enriches someone's someone.
A rapid increase in budget and people in charge who are incompetent and corrupt? At least 50%
Trump and his mafia are stealing from us.
Puking
Hey, @abigailspanberger.com and Jay Jones: Have you seen this?
This is grift on an institutional level
someone who lives nearby needs to scope out who lives there...
Great. Incommunicado and desaparecido in some racist dude’s closet
Trump’s draining the country dry.
A lot.
Also weird: the Army is paying out $232M of the Fort Bliss concentration camp costs, as well. Why, when such a grotesquely large bid supposedly won out for the same concentration camp?
Grifters gonna grift
Grifters gonna grift
It's crazy! 😳
We need a DSA chapter to scam ICE and then use the money to fund campaigns
More than we can imagine most likely. Speaking of waste, fraud and abuse…🤬
I hope this family is like the Madoffs and absconds with all the money. Sucks for tax payers but…
...incredibly critical support to anyone who bilks ICE out of money rather than actually building mini Dachau, I think? I mean we're gonna take it all back w/interest the second we get into power, because no profiteering off of Nazism, but still, if half of the ICE funds go to fraud instead...yay?
Surely we'll get both ..
Also if it comes out you routed a ton of that money to good causes then I think it conditionally it moves you from "stupid-to-the-point-of-useful collaborationist" to "actual genuine hero", just food for thought for folks out there!
Grift for Good! I like it.
Oskar schindler vibes fr
I was thinking along these lines recently, after watching the movie “The Sting” (1973 classic). Since MAGA fascists have concluded “intellectuals” (along with many others) are the perceived domestic enemy, then let’s use our fearful intellect and defeat them without firing a shot.
Winning government contracts then doing them poorly/slowly is exactly the kind of thing the CIA would do in a different country to sabotage it. And it would be the big brain move to do from a someone trying to take down this regime.
The idea that fraud > concentration camps crossed my mind, too.
I mean, this is the 1st time I've ever supported fraud...
They'll probably still build Dachau, they'll just take a big cut and subcontract the rest.
Yeah the "Russian military procurement" model is definitely very much a possibility here, to be clear, but it's hard to say. Especially given how much that would involve relative to the fact this seems to be Just Some Guy with a couple dozen employees, even as a contracting middleman.
Setting up a “brown people dowsing rod” company that sells light-up sticks form $5,000 apiece and funneling the money directly to Commie Gladio stay-behind groups
Secondary feature is they can detect trans people with a $3k add-on
It was all a scam, dude!
I wonder if these scammers were in on the fake assassination and this is their payback bribe.
Scam indeed. The owner must have Trump or Republican leadership ties.
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🤦🏼♀️probably a lot.
Hmmm.... What if we all submitted bids to have detention centers in our garages? Make ICE have to read through them all, and, well I'm sure I'm a lot nicer than the ICE agents. Plus I get busy and forget to close the garage door sometimes, darn it.
It's a great thing that Kristy Noem is PERSONALLY approving every last one of these.
Politically connected corruption is causing massive problems in Russia right now -- and is responsible for much of their military failures as money for training, parts, or quality manufacturing was all squandered on fancy cars, luxury travel, big/multiple homes, women, etc.
A substantial portion. But, might be a silver lining. Less shitty stuff getting funded. 🤷🏼♀️
Trump’s admin is the deep state on steroids
Make em homeless
Scammers gotta scam. But now they're in charge of the govt.
Um.
Trump; the family who will be redirecting government tax dollars into offshore bank accounts to enrich themselves are called Trump, which is synonymous with scammer.
That's outrageous.
How much just to trump, trump family, trump cronies.
Most if not all.
Who are they related to?