honestly feels very 19th century (and i am a big believer that there are valuable lessons to take from the *how* of 19th century mass politics)
honestly feels very 19th century (and i am a big believer that there are valuable lessons to take from the *how* of 19th century mass politics)
As much as I hate the do nothing online leftists, they're 100% correct that the Democratic party has no idea how to rally or galvanize a support base, refuses to listen when that base tell them what they need to do, and looks at candidates who do with derision and hate.
Mamdani, Pritzker and (*through gritted teeth*) Newsom get it
Jamelle then you’d love my piece in Liberal Currents then. And the upcoming follow up. www.liberalcurrents.com/civic-campai...
But trumps don’t create positive vibes. The rest feels accurate in getting engagement, which is kinda cool!
One thing pundits seem to miss about Mamdani is that his success is rooted very much in being an old-school urban politician of the kind that a guy like Cuomo was supposed to be
I think it has more to do with Mamdani's fluency in digital culture, which has a strong participatory tendency (I highly recommend Henry Jenkins' "Participatory Cultures")
I share your optimism and your analogy to the courthouse-speech and oyster-house politics of the 19th century, but the pessimist in me worries that the uniquely well-connected context of NYC - connected with transit, info, and common identity as NYers - means that it's impossible to replicate.
This kind of thing is doable in basically any walkable/bikable/transit-oriented city (I did a bunch of similar things in DC and SF), but I do think it would struggle in suburbia.
Social activities in party building is something we need a lot more of
I am here to chew bubblegum and build third places to counteract our 21st century dystopia. And I'm all out of bubblegum.
RETVRN to political events being festivals at heart. A political rally should be like a midwestern state fair with corn dogs, face-painters, live music, and rousing speeches.
Not to speak of the fact that Tammany Hall is one of the stops.
Where can I read more about 19th century mass politics?
Politics as tent revival, performance, affiliation, enlightenment, and entertainment. Can I get a huzzah!
Especially given that the Trumpian version of mass politics is a very fascist one: attendance and participation in political spectacle. Only the spectacle matters, though, not the participation.
I think people need to decide they don't want to keep making the same mistakes of the past. It's time to make some new mistakes. 🥸
I would love some more explanations about how mass politics of the late 19th and early 20th century could teach us something about the moment today, particularly to the current Democratic fixation that too much that used to work is somehow inappropriate
tl;dr it was a lot more fun to be involved with political parties when they had gigantic torchlight parades and massive drinking at their rallies. Gilded Age elections had voter extremely high turnout, although they were ofc quite corrupt, restricted, etc.
Lessons to take from the *how* of 19th century mass politics: 1) get people together talking and sharing in group activities 2) there is no such thing as “overly outlandish facial hair”
I keep thinking of Vienna
wohnbausteuer (effectively a millionaire's tax, pegged to housing size) + labor-intensive housing construction funded by the housing tax to get more people working + health care + education + public goods tied into all of the above, with constant repetition of how and why. 100 year policy.
Some similarities to the plot from "Dispatches from Elsewhere." 🤯
I'm a big ball of twine truther
Any suggestions on where to read up on that sort of thing?
any recommended books on 19th century mass politics?
This one is a really interesting look at a post- civil war mass movement by farmers, that expanded to include trying to make our whole monetary system more democratic archive.org/details/popu...
Reminds me of the Jejune Institute's scavenger hunt, which I did when I first moved to SF. Using the city to create a sort of magical Situationist game. I believe the guy responsible for it went on to design the Exploratorium. There was a not very good doc about it www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqin...
I saw this doc!
I would read more about this
Also, gets an isolated, anxiety driven generation out into the world engaging with other people.
This is the way.
Say more about that please
Just want to hang out at the local Indivisible Bar.
I took my son and we did the whole thing (except the last stop because we weren’t able to get a card to be able to go). It was very fun and communal.
Mamdani is going to run a local 5k and put down 7 minute miles
📌
🤞 mamdani will herald in a new era of Georgism
Minus, I assume, the coercive tactics of party bosses, the corrupt patronage system, and the food and copious alcohol offered to assist voters' choices? And the often questionable hand-counting of ballots?