Both are important. Living in an area where cars are a fact of life (i.e. LA) but with inadequate parking sucks. You spend half an hour a day trying to park, camping on the block for a spot to open, and inevitably get hit with $100 street cleaning tickets when you forget to move.

I lived this way for four years it was a constant source of worry, conflict, wasted time, and fees I couldn’t afford. Fine to short parking in area with good public transit i.e. NYC but it’s ignorant to do so in areas where cars are the only real option.

YIMBYs need to recognize that basic quality of life matters too, even for low income people, and parking is an aspect of that.

Everything you are describing are problems resulting from car focused design. This law increases density next to transit (less need for a car).

So then where is the surge of transit development? Fix transit, then redevelop. Doing it the other way just creates dead end commuter towns that don't work for real people. You want to make LA feasible for families without a car, then you have got a LOT of infrastructure to build first.

And I'm not saying that moving away from cars isn't a good goal, but you actually need to build infrastructure to get there, and there is little evidence that its possible given the dearth of development during the past 3 decades of democratic legislative majority in california.

You have to deal with the situation as it is. You can't build for a mythical future where LA can be reliably traversed without a car without proving that the future you are designing for is feasible and has political support. How long will it suck until then? 20 years? 30? 50?

And not saying you shouldn't increase density; you absolutely should -- but there should be incentives for doing it in a way that also makes it a decent and practical place to live. Ignoring this gets you modern day housing projects. The incentives should be geared toward balanced developments.

this is housing next to the expanding subway. Adding parking is just adding to the core problem, we should prioritize housing for people over cars. Your preferences actively make transit harder to offer, and makes cities more hostile to everyone outside of a car. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Ang...

All those unsold Tesla’s need somewhere to go, I guess.

What she means is "I don't want to have to look at affordable housing or the types of people who live in it because they are both aesthetically displeasing to me."

In the future, Los Angeles will only be for robot cars.

Especially in LA. Notoriously brutal weather.

Who will stand up for the aspiring young actors who want to live in a charming bungalow with a two car garage and a little front flower garden and a dipping pool & hot tub in the cute backyard? /dripping with sarcasm/ 🫠

I mean... she literally said that, 😂.

And people wonder why California is losing representation in Congress. This is appalling.

Those people are generally moving to even more car-cucked places.

Oh so you want this guy to be homeless

If we cut him open, is there meat inside?

I’m looking for one of them fancy “Hollywood jobs” ,but first I need to plug in my car and grab a matcha latte.

Think of the little smart Cars without a roof over their heads. The heart breaks.

welcome to @thewaroncars.bsky.social

One of my favorite episodes. He and I have the same cargo bike. thewaroncars.org/episode-61-j...

Cool!

So, we have this thing in CA where you pretty much can’t get elected unless you’re a Democrat. Which leads to people like this woman misrepresenting themselves as Democrats, while promoting views that are basically Republican party politics in Dem drag. She might as well be from Orange County.

I think of these as the anti homeless architecture painted Pride colors of people.

How does she possibly keep her seat after this clown show?

Her constituents probably hate multi-unit housing and public transit even more than she does.

Have you ever been to the Valley?

In contrast, my Los Angeles city councilwoman cares about combating homelessness and housing. cd4.lacity.gov

get her to run for mayor

I’d vote for her and she was very nice when I went to a fundraiser she was at

What part of Russia is she from? Cement boxes at least have a roof to sleep under.

These people should be walked around the streets where the unhoused are living. They need to work on their empathy and compassion.

To be fair, people in Los Angeles are so carbrained that this is a completely mainstream way to think about things. I regularly see people here whining when an apartment building goes up in the neighborhood that it's going to "make it impossible to park", as if that's an important consideration.

it might be a rational position if the same people didn't fight tooth and nail against any alternative transportation

And also complain about traffic 😅

Seriously! They'll demand that apartment buildings have 2 spots for every unit and then complain that there are too many cars in the neighborhood 😵‍💫

To be clear, “impossible to park” = you can’t park right in front of your house and might have to walk half a block. Everyone here wants the 1930s suburban dream of zero traffic, plentiful parking, single family homes, and short commutes. Ignoring that the population has tripled since then.

The notion that parking creates traffic doesn't even occur to them. Maybe bc they keep a 1994 Volvo rotting on the street for when "they need it".

Honestly as an apartment dweller in LA the extra cars that are street parked but almost never driven, literally gathering dust, is what truly boggles my mind.

The New England version is cars that never get snow cleared off 😆 😭

Where are they supposed to keep them, their garage??

This location she's talking about is across the street from the Orange Line, BRT, and targets Sec 8 households that are very likely to be transit users.

Classic Los Angeles move

Yeah, that’s been a huge fight in Eureka CA. A bunch of wealthy Trumpsters esp landlords, pulled all kind of legal and illegal shenanigans. “Oh no, we don’t want ‘homeless’ people messing up our city!” But also, “can’t they just live in jail, or go to Sacramento or San Francisco?!” And, “why us?”

With over 200 square miles of parking, Los Angeles County has ~3 parking spaces for every car. That's 1,000 square feet devoted to each car in the nation's most populous county, where we're simultaneously placing unhoused people in so-called "tiny homes" that are each 8-15 square feet.

We must all bow to oil and auto interests. Please read the Constitution!

We have such an awful housing problem in Southern California BUT top that off with not enough parking. With people having roommates to make ends meet that would normally have two vehicles now there are 3-4. Multiply that by say 50 unit apartment complex and NO PLACE TO PARK.

It's amazing that people think they are entitled to a place to store their car for free, and get angry when they don't have it, isn't it?

There are very few 50 unit apartment complexes in the LA metro area, especially outside of Downtown and maybe Santa Monica. And most of those have garages, anyway.

Ok I’m imagining it.

There are 5x more parking spaces than homes in LA county. It is completely false that there is not enough parking.

Well I live in a townhouse and parking is hard to come by. If you have a guest coming over you have to find a spot on the street (could take hours) so they can park in your spot. I’ve been in Sherman Oaks and couldn’t find a spot in a residential area to just pull over to let my pooch go potty.

Hours to find street parking? Bullshit. Just walk a few blocks.

You seem nice.😊 We do. Some people bring their skateboards.

Is this Ray of Sunshine character some kind AI experiment?

And no one tell them? Would they even understand?

To California:

Also, public infrastructure for cars (roads and highways) and not people (transit, bike lanes, sidewalks).

People complain about how they never see bike lanes being used but I never see the cars in my neighborhood being driven just parked. If we don’t need the bike lanes because “it’s always empty” do people need those cars they never drive?

Okay, I know it’s not the perfect analogy BUT someone once said that the real purpose for cars is to take up public space bc it spends more time being parked than driven and it’s stuck with me

Oh interesting perspective. And accurate. Sometimes I do learn something on SM!

High Cost of Free Parking check it out

Donald Shoup was a great one!

These right-wing Dems are misanthropic psychos. A fucking cancer on this party

political actors who want more housing for cars than people should be obligated to use their car as a house. that'll probably fix their attitude pretty quick.

California, get organized! go.bsky.app/zDHeLy

All over the world it's affordable anythinng, especially housing, that gets dumped. They agrue, without irony @jamellebouie.net , that they can't afford the affordable. Crazy stuff.

Los Angeles is the final boss of NIMBYism

Especially the Valley. Especially that part of the Valley, bc south and east of there are politically ready for density, and west and north of there are not really in danger of dense development at this point for various reasons.

I thought it was SF?

SF starts from a much higher level of urbanity and density. Much easier to defeat the NIMBYs here than in LA

Long Island might be the extra, secret boss.

Long Island at least knows it's evil

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Of so many things, racism, substance abuse, the richest, whitest people you know who think they're middle class...so many things (Sorry I also live in Queens)

California NIMBYism gets a lot of press but that northeastern NIMBYism really hits different.

I battled with some of those suburban NY NIMBYs when that NY TOD bill was up for a vote and they are on another level. They don’t bother with any of that left nimby 2 step. They are just straight up racist. Gotta respect the honesty I guess, but I’d really like to see them lose.

Marin County says hey what about us?

Feels like it's northeast of NYC. NYC has nimbys, but Long Island and New England feel like they'll be the last bastion of nimbyism after california is defeated

It's just pure 70s white flight politics left in a time capsule to ferment.

It's NIMBYism that is somehow simultaneously hard-r and non-rhotic r

I frequently recall from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy how Ford Prefect chose his alias, and how the joke aged ludicrously well

I think what people don’t understand about living in California cities is that we really don’t have the kind of transit infrastructure that allows people to live easily without cars.

OR maybe we should invest in more MASS TRANSIT…

Learn to drive first bitches.

Rats are a major problem in NYC because people don't want to lose their parking spaces in the name of proper sanitation.

Evergreen.

Scott Weiner perfected that poker face sitting through San Francisco Board of Supes meetings.

*gestures at Dean Preston* It's a survival skill

I'm so proud of my parking.

man learning where this happened just makes me upset. We have gotten back to the cable news style point counter point "debate" show, except its podcasters.

As if Los Angeles is some bastion of incredible beautiful architecture for multifamily mid-rises.

Build the boxes. I guarantee in 50 years they'll be in high demand as kitschy early 21st century statement pieces.

The iconic two-flats and three-flats of Chicago were once considered boring. Now people hold a funeral when one is torn down.

I get the point but to be fair, that is NOT a walkable neighborhood and the Orange line that it’s adjacent to is more for commuters than getting anywhere useful for non business activities like grocery shopping. Take a look at the map, and note the businesses. You’d need a car to live in that area.

CARS ARE PEOPLE TOO

She needs to fucking go

They need the transit bill passed. Might not even have a car for transportation- people take buses. Ludicrous.

Echoes of Jane Jacobs v Robert Moses. Easy to clown on the council member because we've hit the limits of bottom-up zoning and housing demand. But everyone should be realistic of what bad top-down zoning looks like if you don't budget for the ills high-density dwellings can bring i.e. Pruitt-Igoe

This person’s city council district is pure suburban sprawl. There are barely even multi-family units there at all. (And many are townhome gated communities, not apartment buildings.) She is against, like, a 4-6 unit building, not a brutalist nightmare which would never be built in LA anyhow.

This mentality -Cars over People- has led to: >a immense housing crisis >a glut of unsafe streets “car sewers” >minimal investment in public transit >rejection of active transit & >a looming climate disaster There is absolutely nothing thoughtful, helpful, or healthy abt this position.

Also: California losing House seats every census to Texas and Florida...

That has happened exactly one time in American history, but given CM Padilla's support for prolonging our housing scarcity by ignoring much-needed land-use reform, no one should be surprised.

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But people housed in cars = ILLEGAL and GET OUT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD... so in America we hate poors.

True, but in America, sadly, a vast number of Americans hate whoever they're told to hate (aka "them"). It is one of the more embarrassing truths abt being an American today.

She looks like Lauren "disgusting vile whore" Boebert.

Throughout the full video, her thesis is just "I should have power". That's it. All of it.

LA built transit specifically so that it could build affordable housing without cars! Victory and Balboa has a brand new bus stop. This was the whole point of building transit.

My king Scott Weiner not amused