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Zach Weinersmith @zachweinersmith.bsky.social

Like yeah, there are limits, maybe hard ones, but from where I sit the artists are losing ground on a monthly basis if you do nothing else than consider what the public wants en masse.

aug 24, 2025, 2:38 pm • 7 0

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UpChuckle @upchuckle.bsky.social

so if ai output is outpacing artists, then what will happen when the ai inevitably feeds off of itself? is it going to remain as perfect as it's envisioned?

aug 24, 2025, 2:41 pm • 1 0 • view
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Zach Weinersmith @zachweinersmith.bsky.social

I don't think we know that. I agree (or anyway hope) the arts are less amenable to synthetic data than e.g. math or coding.

aug 24, 2025, 2:43 pm • 3 0 • view
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UpChuckle @upchuckle.bsky.social

i've seen ai-generated garbage at markets that i guess do kind of well, but if anybody can do it, then it just spoils the selection that much more. it happened with the ghibli trend where everything wound up being yellow and then needed ai to fix it. that sort of fixing doesn't seem intuitive.

aug 24, 2025, 2:50 pm • 1 0 • view
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Lexical Lushes @lexical-lushes.bsky.social

We do know, though! We know that "synthetic data" has an extreme deleterious effect on LLMs and image generators, this is KNOWN. They've already demonstrated it.

aug 24, 2025, 2:46 pm • 2 0 • view
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Frank Hightower 🐁 @frankhghtwr.bsky.social

I disagree. When training an image-processing AI (traditional, pre-COVID kind) having to produce synthetic data is not the exception. This can be as simple as rotating the image slightly or as complex as making collages and curing the seams (is it a wonder then that GenAI images look like they do?)

aug 24, 2025, 3:19 pm • 1 0 • view
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Frank Hightower 🐁 @frankhghtwr.bsky.social

It already is

aug 24, 2025, 3:15 pm • 0 0 • view
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Linen Burrows @thegoblinburrows.sass-c.sucks

???? From where I sit people are becoming increasingly hostile to Gen AI in the same timeframe. I havent read an article or had a conversation with a real person about Gen AI in months where it wasn't referred to as slop. If you want to devalue yourself go for it. Dont devalue the rest of us.

aug 24, 2025, 2:53 pm • 5 0 • view
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Lester Sabotage @lesabot.bsky.social

The public doesn't know what it wants and is driven significantly by elite signalling. You not saying that "AI is trash" is directly driving their acceptance. Also, AI is trash, so that shouldn't be hard to say.

aug 24, 2025, 3:57 pm • 0 0 • view