Imagine a book where Ezra Klein proclaims himself King of the YIMBYs and then just kind of says a bunch of stuff some libertarians told him on a podcast sometime.
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It’s complicated because he has a lot of correct facts but the overall narrative sandwich is politically off base, filled with a lot of weird little grievances, and removed from what a lot of real world YIMBYs think and believe
aug 18, 2025, 9:59 pm • 42 2 • view
And another follow!
aug 18, 2025, 11:43 pm • 0 0 • view
that's mostly it, nobody needs another term when YIMBYism is right there
aug 18, 2025, 10:12 pm • 14 0 • view
yeah, it’s basically associating yimbyism with right-coded rhetoric for no reason?
aug 19, 2025, 4:01 am • 15 0 • view
what if instead of yimbyism, which has specifically cultivated a brand which would be palatable to blue city+state governments over a decade, we rebrand ourselves by our association to right leaning tech oligarchs and libertarians
aug 19, 2025, 4:03 am • 20 0 • view
I worry yall either didn’t read the book, listen to any of the interviews or podcasts bc respectfully wtf are yall talking about bc every thing you said is wrong
aug 19, 2025, 4:07 am • 3 0 • view
Yes I read this book. It was a very slow read because every other little paragraph had something in it that was like "does he not know about X?"
aug 19, 2025, 4:35 am • 11 0 • view
Also YIMBYism is specifically about housing; Abundance is much more expansive!!
aug 19, 2025, 4:10 am • 3 0 • view
Yeah I mean there are also Derek Thomson's little science screed that was just kind of tacked on for page count or whatever. The result being that "abundance" went from being about one thing to now being about two things (wow) and i'm sure whatever else they decide is a good policy in the future
aug 19, 2025, 4:46 am • 8 0 • view
sorry I skipped Derek Thompson going on hanania's podcast lmfao
aug 19, 2025, 4:51 am • 1 0 • view
And that earns a follow!
aug 18, 2025, 11:42 pm • 2 0 • view
I’m gonna be straight up, Abundance is the way better term.
aug 19, 2025, 4:03 am • 3 0 • view
Abundance being the word used by Musk and Andreesen lends it a lot of harmful ambiguity in terms of forgetting that externalities exist. For me YIMBYism means specific things and people/movements and it matters what those things are and who is in those movements.
aug 19, 2025, 4:40 am • 10 1 • view
Yeah ngl abundance is omnicausal which limits the sort of coalition you can build out of it.
aug 19, 2025, 4:59 am • 5 1 • view
But isn’t the idea broader than housing? It’s the same view of liberal economic policy I’ve always had - let’s make sure that we have so much of everything we can meet people’s needs instead of fighting over scarce needs.
aug 19, 2025, 4:51 am • 2 0 • view
Well, I suppose so, but that's why I think of it as trying to sell supply side economics as left-wing, with an implicit assumption that market actors will overproduce and drive themselves out of business for some reason
aug 19, 2025, 1:24 pm • 0 0 • view
The leftist theory of housing describes a housing market that behaves like no other commodity market in the history, including the actual existing housing market
aug 19, 2025, 1:35 pm • 3 0 • view
"just get rid of regulations and the price of the durable commodity will go to zero" describes nothing useful
aug 19, 2025, 1:42 pm • 0 0 • view
That's true but I don't think anyone is saying the price would go to zero? Housing is inherently expensive - it's expensive to make and expensive to maintain. The idea is let's not make it MORE expensive via regulations that distort usage. Single family zoning makes houses more expensive.
aug 19, 2025, 1:46 pm • 2 0 • view
Sure, but the marginal cost of regulation is not actually an interesting question. What you would *like* is to provide housing that people want at a certain low price and that is not something that tinkering with zoning or stair count can guarantee
aug 19, 2025, 1:59 pm • 0 0 • view
Yeah it’s about breaking regulatory capture by landowners, something anyone with leftist principles should whole heartedly endorse!
aug 19, 2025, 2:00 pm • 2 0 • view
Okay cool nobody said the market would reduce the price to zero.
aug 19, 2025, 1:51 pm • 0 0 • view
Oh no I’m not saying the movement is good, just that they stole a march on the branding
aug 19, 2025, 8:04 pm • 0 0 • view
I’ve been looking for someone with a display name like yours to ask a question to. My sense is that abundance is a conscious effort to subordinate Yimbyism, and its attendant energy, to dem factionalism. It’s also looks like an attempt to corner “highly educated, urban renter class”. Agree at all?
aug 19, 2025, 7:57 pm • 0 0 • view
Also Klein is maybe in a thruple with Bari Weiss. That is the sum total of my knowledge of Abundance
aug 19, 2025, 4:39 am • 85 1 • view
What
aug 19, 2025, 4:45 am • 7 0 • view
Don't encourage him
aug 19, 2025, 4:45 am • 4 0 • view
Gross.
aug 19, 2025, 4:48 am • 4 0 • view
aug 19, 2025, 5:00 am • 0 0 • view
EZRA KLEIN IS ALLEGEDLY IN A THRUPLE WITH BARI WEISS
aug 19, 2025, 4:46 am • 6 1 • view
Someone I know irl recently described Bari Weiss as “the one who the internet says was in a throuple with Ira Glass”, and I was like “don’t you mean Ezra Klein” and we looked it up and it turned out the internet says both
aug 19, 2025, 4:49 am • 51 1 • view
This was when we were hanging out with another family and we were talking about this dumb shit with my wife and her husband, neither of whom follow any of this, and the whole conversation was embarrassing
aug 19, 2025, 4:51 am • 31 0 • view
Never show your (online) power level.
aug 19, 2025, 5:08 am • 2 0 • view
Mortifying, honestly, I feel bad for you now
aug 19, 2025, 4:52 am • 21 0 • view
Always embarassing when you're talking about threesomes with your wife's husband.
aug 19, 2025, 5:18 am • 6 0 • view
I’m sorry I thought this was bluesky
aug 19, 2025, 5:28 am • 10 0 • view
Ira Glass got involved because he picked the dog that tries to murder him every day and can only eat ever more exotic meats over his marriage
aug 19, 2025, 5:22 am • 2 0 • view
aug 19, 2025, 4:41 am • 84 0 • view
Look I didn't say 'here's some information you'll really be thankful I passed on'
aug 19, 2025, 4:42 am • 65 0 • view
Are we sure that Bari, Bethany and Chaya aren’t all from the same mycelium?
aug 19, 2025, 8:10 am • 1 0 • view
Millennials, inventing new ways of having a midlife crisis every year
aug 19, 2025, 12:55 pm • 11 0 • view
What else are we supposed to be doing
aug 19, 2025, 1:03 pm • 2 0 • view
In my day you just had a throuple with Courtney Love or David Spade. None of THIS nonsense.
aug 19, 2025, 12:56 pm • 6 0 • view
Bari Weiss does kinda have Love/Spade energy...
aug 19, 2025, 1:26 pm • 4 0 • view
Da Strap God Weiss.
aug 19, 2025, 4:47 am • 1 0 • view
aug 19, 2025, 4:44 am • 7 0 • view
This is why everything is so stupid, in a nutshell.
aug 19, 2025, 4:43 am • 6 0 • view
¡abundancia!
aug 19, 2025, 4:48 am • 0 0 • view
lolwut Cursed knowledge LB. I’m now sad at myself that I understand everything in that sentence.
aug 19, 2025, 6:41 pm • 3 0 • view
thanks, I hate it
aug 19, 2025, 4:52 am • 1 0 • view
‘Abundance’ is what he calls his hog
aug 19, 2025, 4:50 am • 8 0 • view
More like “throwuple” 🤮🤮🤮🤮
aug 19, 2025, 4:47 am • 27 0 • view
Everyone, go home! This wins the internet today.
aug 19, 2025, 12:59 pm • 3 0 • view
Ok but imagine there were a ton of leftist organizers doing work under that brand for years and then all of the sudden some contrarian centrist comes along and ruins the brand.
aug 19, 2025, 10:51 pm • 0 0 • view