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Chris Scullion @scully1888.bsky.social

To be clear, like I say, I'm definitely against this in principle. I'm just saying the people I'm seeing going "RIP Persona" are perhaps overreacting, because this isn't a case of Nintendo wiping out that mechanic in every other game going forwards. This is a (bullshit) strategy to win one lawsuit

sep 10, 2025, 10:42 am • 3 0

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Alex Donaldson @apzonerunner.com

Nintendo would never go after Persona, Digimon etc bc they are established for 30 years (and given Pokemon only predates Persona by 6mos, it's obvious it was not a rip). But would a smaller dev chance it on a Persona-like now? is it worth the risk?

sep 10, 2025, 10:57 am • 1 0 • view
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Alex Donaldson @apzonerunner.com

This is how legislation and trademark camping like this stifles creativity simply by existing. Yes, Nintendo probably won't legislate on 9 out of 10 cases (or whatever). But would you bet your company, your livelihood, your career, bankruptcy on being the 1 in 10? No, so you just don't go there.

sep 10, 2025, 10:58 am • 2 0 • view
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Alex Donaldson @apzonerunner.com

A case in point on this is Bandai's 'Loading Screen Mini Game' patent was extremely loose & vague, there was wriggle room around it, but nobody else wanted to remotely risk it so nobody ever did those

sep 10, 2025, 10:59 am • 1 0 • view
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Chris Scullion @scully1888.bsky.social

I take your point. I still think it's enough of an established mechanic now that I don't see it ever being enforced beyond the Palworld case, but I do get some devs will pause when considering it. There are doubtless countless other patents like that too which haven't been pointed out in the media

sep 10, 2025, 11:07 am • 0 0 • view
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Farrmark @farrmark.bsky.social

Loading screen mini games? They're old as hell 😂 Do you guys remember Invaderload on the C64? Basically a space invaders clone whilst the game loaded 😎

sep 10, 2025, 11:40 am • 0 0 • view
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Daniel Nye Griffiths @d-nye-griffiths.bsky.social

Yeah - Namco Bandai registered a patent covering a specific implementation of delivering minigames while game content loaded _from optical discs_ in 1995.

sep 10, 2025, 12:00 pm • 1 0 • view
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Farrmark @farrmark.bsky.social

I see... Not cassettes from the 80's then 😂😂

sep 10, 2025, 12:11 pm • 0 0 • view
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Daniel Nye Griffiths @d-nye-griffiths.bsky.social

Ha! No, they would be OK - and even when the patent expired in 2015, consoles were stashing a lot more of the game on local storage, preloading etc, so there was a lot less waiting time in general - and now we have games which are never put on an optical disc at all, or the disc just authenticates.

sep 10, 2025, 12:15 pm • 1 0 • view
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Daniel Nye Griffiths @d-nye-griffiths.bsky.social

(The patent talks about a recording medium but uses a CD-Rom as an example - so, if you were putting a game on magnetic cassette in 1995 I am genuinely not sure whether it would apply! I suspect you could point to invade-a-load as prior art, though... academic now, though.)

sep 10, 2025, 12:20 pm • 1 0 • view