I tend to just copy and paste/forcibly show chunks of text, but I think a lot of peoples' eyes just glaze over
I tend to just copy and paste/forcibly show chunks of text, but I think a lot of peoples' eyes just glaze over
at this point I think you can lead in with "say, ever wonder where Elon got his nutty ideas? Here's one place"
and "yes, I know, it IS batshit insane, absolutely! But that's what we're dealing with here. They're high on their own farts, and too much money, and/or a LOT of K."
point out that authoritarian governments pretty much always have some batshit insane writers that influence what passes for their theory. Alexander Durgin for Putin. "Esoteric Hitlerism" giant Aryans under the North Pole, all kinds of mystic crap.
it's not that we're afraid Yarvin is literally going to create the (anti) society he dreams of. The issue is, this crazy motherfucker influences powerful people AT ALL.
Must understand intent! Like character, it gives you some of the best information available to care for self and others.
I've learned to walk on eggshells so resistance doesn't come up. I've gotten through to a few in the cult this way. But they know me from work - they're not strangers. That background matters a lot.
Oh, you're talking to actual MAGA, not just normies. That's different. Eesh. I know I'm no help there. Glad to hear you're making a dent at all.
It's a mix - some normies, too. The thing I did not see coming in my circle is older bohemian women on a yoga and raw foods to fascism pipeline that runs through RFK and weird new age ideas. I missed it because there's been a lot of code switching going on.
people talk a lot about horseshoe theory like it's only red-brown in the classical sense. dirtbag left, "post left," "let's court rural white men at the expense of 'woke'" etc. that's real too but tbh woo should be known as its own horseshoe really
ugh yeah that's a HUGE one. also in UK Mumsnet to TERF to fascism pipeline. I used to be a LOT more woo tolerant, even woo curious. very over most of it at this point. Not quite at annoying New Atheist levels, just deeply agnostic & anti anti-science.