Given his *very first claim* I would like to know what liberalism, socialism, {soc, dem}, etc have *actually been* all this time if not honest to God non-conservative and anti-conservative things
Given his *very first claim* I would like to know what liberalism, socialism, {soc, dem}, etc have *actually been* all this time if not honest to God non-conservative and anti-conservative things
Under his definition, both liberalism and socialism still have outgroups: immigrants, prisioners, underclass, etc. That effectively have lesser protections and more restrictions on freedoms. Thus they are essentially 'conservative' under his definition. That's probably an issue with the definition