I do see this terminology constantly here though. It’s everywhere in liberal spaces. Some of it is a major turnoff. Just one example: I looked into a podcast about fanfics and they didn’t use the word woman. They used a technical term about assigned at birth. That’s insane. I gave up.
i'm sure those podcasters would be *heartbroken* to know they lost the viewership of someone who thinks talking about assigned gender is "insane", but what does this have to do with the democratic party?
If you're determining political theory and vocabulary from a podcast about fanfics, you've chosen poorly. (Related: Just because you don't like a thing doesn't mean it's bad or incorrect - that requires analysis of ethical and moral concerns - it just means you don't like it)
you waddled into one of the most queer subcultures imaginable and immediately started sniveling about how it was too gay for you. maybe you should fuck off?
how would the Democratic Party stop a podcast about fanfics from using normal modern terms about gender assigned at birth
By all means, don't listen to a podcast if it bothers you,... but whatever happened to not being so thin skinned about the words that other people choose to use? You can perceive people choosing to use a particular vocabulary as scolding, but that's really just your perception.
It literally only bothers you because you choose to let it bother you. Roll your eyes and move on. This is EXACTLY the same tendency that that leads to conservatives freaking out about pronouns in email signatures (a thing that came into existence to avoid confusion.)
yeah it’s annoying but not worth ending society over
Which podcast?
I want to know this--it sounds interesting!
You listened to a podcast hosted by some randos, didn't like how those individuals preferred to talk on *their show* that *you are in no way obliged to listen to*, and that's somehow the fault of Democratic politicians?
I see technical terms in two places, when i look at technical discussions, and when people try to use them to scare other people.
A podcast!? Oh no!
Democratic politicians do not have totalitarian control over what fanfic podcasters say. This should be obvious. How dumb are you?
We're all very impressed by how much effort you put into deliberately finding something to be annoyed about when you had the option of not doing that.
"I can't vote dem because of a random person saying things online" Do you laugh when keys are jiggled at you?
I'm gonna say this as politely as I can: complaining about that is the most pathetic loser shit imaginable. raise your level of dignity in life by doing anything else. doesn't matter what, you could smoke some weed and fall asleep. anything
Yeah, there are a lot of people in the world. Most of them aren’t Democratic Party politicians or spokespeople. Which is the point. The Democrats can’t - and shouldn’t - control what randos on the internet say and holding that against them is fucking deranged
And yet that’s our reality. But I am talking about something more subtle. Apolitical spaces which are about art or sports etc. We need a place for liberals and even potential liberals that doesn’t turn people off with weird language & needless scolding. We used to be good at this! We need it back.
using queer-inclusive language isn't "political" and the fact that you think it is is very telling
And yet the topic at hand is purported use of language by democratic candidates and elected officials…
you're not demanding a space where that happens, you're complaining you found a space where it doesn't
tell us more about needless scolding
I wholeheartedly assure you there exist fanfics that don't say latinx.
There is actually a huge difference between ‘we need’ and ‘elected democrats should’. We need better romantic comedies and shorter action movies too but that’s not something I’m going to scold Nancy pelosi about!
I am with you on politicians who are more small c conservative. I am just pointing out that this language became popular on old school Twitter and got repeated by, say, TV executives in interviews. It’s everywhere. Maybe less so now but I think it really turned off people including Dem voters.
It’s more cultural than a thing put out in Democratic politician statements. But maybe we need to talk about it. By the way, I have listened to several of your podcasts and you and your colleagues are plain spoken. I have heard it elsewhere in mainstream entertainment podcasts.
All we do as a nation is talking about it tho. You can't swing a dead cat in supposed left leaning media without hitting an article about how "the leftists are saying pregnant person instead of pregnant woman!" I personally am so tired of hearing about what the people on Tumblr say.
Democratic politicians are also not TV executives. You're doing a whole lot of describing people who are not Democratic politicians while discussing this document about Democratic politicians.
I just cannot see “some people say words I don’t prefer” as a big issue Dems need to address or be held to account for
I don't understand why it is an issue at all. Perhaps it comes down to conservatives screaming about it for decades at this point until it just becomes perceived wisdom that it is actually a problem. We let conservatives dictate the terminology.
When was it repeated by TV executives in interviews?
Oh boo fucking hoo. Grow up and stop being a whiny little prat.
Was this a major podcast with tens of thousands of listeners, or a podcast run by a few people for their friends and a small circle of listeners? If the latter, it ain't evidence of anything but your media illiteracy.