🚨BREAKING: El Salvador told the United Nations that it has no legal authority over hundreds of Venezuelan men that President Donald Trump sent to a Salvadoran megaprison earlier this year. www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/...
🚨BREAKING: El Salvador told the United Nations that it has no legal authority over hundreds of Venezuelan men that President Donald Trump sent to a Salvadoran megaprison earlier this year. www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/...
So we can now say without a doubt that America now imprisons people with a trial or charge for an indefinite detention
Ooops!
El Salvador isn't confident that Trump will protect their financial interests with our veto should they be sanctioned by the UN Security Council for violating international law. Based on Trump's history, this is a wise move.
But they keep torturing all of them anyways? Does that mean our government gave Bukele written permission for it? Why would he otherwise admit this?
What shall we do? Set them free? Hand them over to Venezuela? Add them to the US quagmire? Beg UN to take custody to adjudicate each case?
El Salvadore is a member of the ICC. Trump put sanctions back when he was re-elected. International Criminal Court and the lead prosecuter there. That's why.
Wait, what?
Does the United Nations have any say in the lies told to them?
Step one - call it fake news Step two - slow-walk any court proceedings Step three - get The Supremes to rule everything is fine and normal
Yup
Huh.
It’s purely a financial arrangement between two criminal organizations.
Trading humans for money? There's a word for that...
Yep. And that why they are two criminal organizations and not political parties.
So they're legally Trump administration's agent, meaning liability for the unconstitutional imprisonment and whatever mistreatment has been given.
Trump, said he will send US citizens out of the country. If he send any naturalized citizens out of the country make sure his wife and her father are seat mates on the plane. Just saying
If his wife worked on a tourist visa she was an illegal immigrant. That puts Baron at risk too by Trump's birthright citizenship denial.
I thought she came here on an Einstein Visa. (Modeling)😂😂😂😂it was the word on the street😂😂😂😂If Trump, sending naturalize citizens by to where ever. Make sure Malania and her father are seat mates on the plane. Just saying.
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Oh!
Why did El Salvador accept them? Was it about the almighty dollar? Hmm! Hmm!
BUT AREN'T THEY GETTING MONEY FOR HOUSING THEM
Oh, for sure! But like, they're not deciding who is and isn't sent there. They're just doing to torture part, so it's cool. Yeah.
That photograph is all of us. This is wrong.
Opens the door to Civil litigation against ICE, 34-felon etc.
The really sick part here is ~35%of Americans are cheering this on.
Inhumane what they have done to these people. They should all be in trial, every Republican bowing to this fake king.
Next POTUS candidate who wants my vote is promising me that Bukele will be utterly destroyed, without mercy, without quarter, without surcease...just relentlessly chasing him down and destroying him, removing him from power, sending him to the Hague and punishing El Salvador until CECOT is rubble.
So the UN violations will now fall solely on Trump, right?
And yet they are complicit to those who do. “I was just following orders” —- is. Not. A. Valid. Argument.
And the idiot president claimed an "invasion" earlier.
El Salvador says Not us! The Felon47 administration says Not us! So, then WHO?
The United Nations needs to step in and end this madness. Trump and his gang have committed crimes on an International level.
Trump pays no attention to the UN
Hussein didn’t care about the UN either.
Perjury charges for the attorney that lied to the judge? 🤞
And Trump and Ubele who both said that the prisoners had to stay in El Salvador. Trump said he couldn't get them back
Ok then set them free.
The whole idea is for both sides to deny legal authority, so that the inmates have no appeal to anyone.
It's a profit racket Team felon
The International Criminal Court in the Hague probably would agree. Honestly, I do think some of this will be litigated there. And I don't think the Supreme Court's immunity grant will apply there.
My hope. The people I see winning in 2028 (Walz, JB, Murphy, AOC, and even Newsom) don't seem like they'd be against it
Newsom won't be the nominee. It'll be a genuine systemic-economic progressive, but too early for AOC; doubt she'll want it then.
Just throwing out the people who have some juice right now. Not getting the feeling that the 2028 nominee (and future prez) is going to slow walk anything with these fucking assholes
El Salvador is a member state of the ICC. Bukele may have received an ICC notice that participating in Crimes against Humanity is a gross violation of the Rome Statute. Of note, anyone participating in CAH in a member state are also liable - inc. citizens of non-member states. otplink.icc-cpi.int
Fuck yeah thanks for being up to date on this
I imagine the Trumper will make Bukele pull out of that effective tomorrow. Bukele doesn't seem to understand that he is now Trump's B...
It wouldn't be retroactive. Noem has been caught. If she ends up in the Hague I'm going to feel so so sorry for her.
No doubt, that would be a shame...
Yes. No one ever told him ETTD? Maybe he thought SCOTUS 'immunity' applied to the ICC? Also appears he did not bother to learn his lesson on how to avoid global scorn after the IMF slapped him for trying to convert his entire economy into Bitcoin. 🤡
I totally remember the bitcoin thing, very poorly thought out.
The US is not a member of the ICC. That is a problem.
And Jack Smith will lead the prosecution.
If I had to choose a song for this travesty of justice. It would be The Vapors by Biz Markie and Snoop Dogg. 🎶😅
are they a "license" a "rental" slaves wanna know!
We might not ever know how many $Billion we are paying El Salvador to rent their prisons or how many $Millions their President and government leaders are putting in their pockets. Art of the Deal.
Then let them go
Then why was Bukele in the White House making nice with Trump?
So he lied!!!! Imagine that
Trump is America’s Hitler, and if you don’t believe me, wake up!
Of course they don’t. We knew this, the regime played games. Ignored court orders, continue to traffick migrants to another country where they pay them to torture and break them down to die. Perhaps ES understands far more than they did before agreeing to participate in this crime in progress. 🤔
So they can leave? Since they have no legal right to hold then?
Hmmm, interesting 🤨 trump and his mafia lied?
I guess that means they will all be released immediately.
Don’t we all wish! This regime wants to send a message to the rest of the immigrants, but this is what awaits them. I can’t believe so many people voted for this man.
Yes. But the message is for all of US. (no due process)
"It" being El Salvador or the UN?
so the US lied.
It has no legal authority because it is a criminal activity.
What authority could they possibly have? Did we sell them into foreign slavery? Washed our hands? No, the USA is paying for them to be held there. This BS from both sides has always a lie.
So the check the US wrote to El Salvador has finally cleared! They got their $$ and can now afford to tell the truth.
Anything here considered war crimes, crimes agianst humanity, genocide? Friends want to know if the Hague Will answer the call. Both this call and the atrocities taking place by Netanyahu.
Who are the prison guards? Who is in charge of the prison? This is unacceptable 😤
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Hmm that’s kinda wild ain’t it? Wonder what will happen? 🤨
Is this who ICE learned to wear face coverings from 🧐
Two lying fucks doing what they do best!
No mans land; no one takes responsibility.
Just a suggestion, instead of “it”, use “El Salvador” As “it” doesn’t clarify which “it”
Such unspeakable evil. That is the country we have become. All El Salvador cares about is the money, so it seems there ought to be a way to buy these men their freedom and give them refugee status in a decent country.
Oopsie. I heard otherwise on this end.
seems like el salvador is a country needing a regime change gop loves toppling countries for profit
Really?
We need to get them all out of there! None of them had due process--the whole thing is unconstitutional
Our government kidnapped them and sent them to a foreign prison. Why isnt this headline news constantly?
And they were never, ever, charged with any crime. Being in the US illegally is a civil offense. You can't jail people for that. You can only deport them.
Tom H said they have detained 58,000 people to date - where are ALL of them! We demand to know and if that number is higher!
insane
So...? How about El Salvador contacting the Venezuelan government to accept their citizens?
No. How about El Salvador return the kidnapped men to the US so that they can be vetted and given due process as it should have been done.
That too.
What is the recourse? How will these men be returned to the US so that legal processes will be followed? Don't let these assaults on justice become day-long talking points, only to be forgotten and replaced by the next crisis. This fascistic bullshit, this human outrage has to stop.
And therefore no right to abuse them and to continue to hold them. Bring them on back
It doesn't matter the nationality, the authority that applies is territorial by default. It's important not to pitch one dictator against another but to realise that both are lying .
The El Salvadorano dictator and U.S. wanna be can't get their story straight
Just reading some of the descriptions of what kind of torture is being perpetrated in that facility is horrendous.
Someone’s got some ‘splaining to do.
Gee, that Orange lying motherfucker, lied to the court again. What were the fucking odds? 🤷
No shit.
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🍊💩 & MAGAt GOP cruelty & hatred of brown people & immigrants of color knows no bounds. There will be a reckoning over the violent kidnappings, inhumane detentions, deportations, & crazy incarcerations in other countries. There are people getting rich building & maintaining concentration camps FFS.
Remember Republicans CHOSE this. They wanted this and they fought for this. They are the ones responsible. All of them.
We knew that was a lie anyway. If I pay you to keep my baby I can get my baby back.
Congress, did you happen to ask Trump for the contract with El Salvador that he legally is required to provide to you I believe within thirty days of its full execution? Its terms undoubtably will reveal which party to the contract is telling the truth. I doubt that it is Trump.
You mean the government lied to us? Huh. 🤔
So…disgraced trumps lying again…
Trump administration lied. Not surprised
I would really love for elected dems to declare forcefully that human rights abuses cannot be pardoned. Trump and others can and will be referred to international criminal courts for prosecution if the US can’t do it.
Me too. In order for this to happen, however, you need a party clean of complicit, corporate-friendly "democrats". A party of people with balls who will not back down and whose loyalty can't be bought.
Also, this photograph - what is this about? Are they trying to break their backs? Why the cruelty? Trump's orders? Noem's, Miller's? Whose? this photo will live on in infamy in the History of the United States.
All the judges overseeing these deportation cases best be putting the brakes on everything & interrogating the DOJ lawyers until they cry
Therefore they are being held illegally and must be released immediately.
So who has 'legal authority'? This whole process of sending undocumented ppl to prisons in 3rd countries where they are not citizens is so absurd and inhumane. MY GOD. How did we get here???
What happens to the DOJ lawyers and Bondi for lying? Or Trump? That's the problem - probably nothing.
Yep
So if the United States is in fact the ones responsible for directing CECOT employees on activities for US deportees there, haven’t our federal government officials committed war crimes since Abrego Garcia is declaring he was tortured?
War crimes can only be committed during a war.
And yet, Taco has repeatedly used the assertion that the US is ´at war’ to justify his actions, including threats to invade both Mexico and Canada.
Ok. So war crimes isn’t the term. But that doesn’t mean you get to send people to foreign lands to have them tortured. What international law governs that?
Crimes against humanity Enslavement & Trafficking Torture
Good list!
Send them back. El Salvador doesn't have a bright tech future if it's going to keep torturing humans. They can choose to do the right thing.
So who is making $ off of this and who will later?
They lied. Again
UNCAT UN Convention Against Torture Both the United States and El Salvador are signatories and have ratified the Convention.
This disturbing photo will be shown in history books for years to come describing the era of the dictatorship of President Trump.
If that’s the case then send them back let them have their due process then go from there! But in the mean time WHO THE HELL is TAKING CARE of these MEN!!!!?????
Then send them back…solved it for you.
Does that mean Trump ordered the beatings and torture those prisoners are experiencing?
Then return them, keep the money you were paid, and renegotiate for more money.It is simple tRUMP economics
As if we didn’t already know this deal was shady AF.
El Salvador starting to break up with slump?
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So many lies
Shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you.
What a load of BS. They agreed to do this, with handsome compensation, under the auspices of the United States and the Felon. They will do whatever he tells them to do, or he can shut off the the money spigot.
Weird cause us court found they're not functionally under us control either
Bullshit. They’re in your country, pendejo. You own that part of the problem.
We need these men back
Hmmm who do I believe..??..??
If any one of us doesn’t get due process, it’s the same as none of us. We are in extremely dangerous waters. #Resist
Well we knew it was all a lie and now there’s proof. Heinous. How many laws has trump broken with this ? What happens now? Will anything change?
So neither the US nor El Salvador has legal authority over the prisoners. Cool. Get them out!
Another well-thought-out plan from the chaos-monkey-in-chief!
The two nation agreement that produced this arraignment needs to be brought to light, this is not complicated..
they don’t have legal authority but they can beat the ever loving 💩 out of them and torture them…so that is the united states doing that to them by default, directing another country to handle them.
More felonious behavior by the POTUS. bsky.app/profile/pcun...
What is El Salvador bracing for?
Holy hell! Bukele said the exact opposite, while in the Oval Office with the felon!!
For a moment, this felt like good news and, in the next moment, felt like very bad news.
Ruh roh…..
My guess: Trump hasn't paid Bukele what they agreed in 1:1 meeting.
...then why are they still being held?
As usual Trump lies!!! Get those men out of there.
El Salvador just admitted it was involved in unlawful confinement and kidnapping?
How surprising. Trump Lied. Again! He takes zero responsibility for all the harm he's caused and continues to cause. Lies repeatedly to continue to get away with stuff he never should have gotten away with to begin with. Guessing the Supreme Court could reverse his 'immunity' if it wanted to?
In typical authoritarian nonsense, it's always someone else's fault. "Oh I legally can't do this, so it's Trump's fault they're here." Of course that leaves out the fact that their little dictator is making out like a bandit by doing exactly that, getting millions of free dollars for it.
And possibly the release of his MS13 buddies too.
Another good thing about due process is the ability to actually know who the ms13 gang members are. Esp since the regime does seem to make a lot of “administrative errors”
Ain't that some trump shit. Will any of them be living in a year.
Oh what a tangled web they weave!
They’re just renting the detention camps to the trump administration for a very high fee paid for by our tax money.
no due process, they're concentration camps "What distinguishes a concentration camp from a prison (in the modern sense) is that it functions outside of a judicial system. The prisoners are not indicted or convicted of any crime by judicial process." encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/a...
Wow, I feel for those men. Sitting in a foreign land, in a dark prison, ona steel bed with males who have tattoos all over the place. Frightening. But that’s the world we live in And I refuse to get used to it! Disgusting!
Of course it doesn't, they got no due process, people who committed no crimes were sent there! That should be what they mean!
Sick and depraved!
If so, why is El Salvador beating and torturing the prisoners? That speaks loudly to “controlling authority” versus “source of funds”
●Multiple investigations have found that a majority of those removed by the Trump administration do not have criminal records in the U.S., Venezuela or El Salvador and never violated U.S. immigration laws. ●El Salvador said that the U.S. had exclusive responsibility over the men.
●Under the agreement, the U.S. has paid El Salvador around $6 million to imprison the men for at least a year.
This disgusting and terrifying. I cannot believe that this is happening. It has to stop.Bring these men home and utilize sue process. The REAL version, not this administration’s version. On both the “criminals” who were deported and THEN? On those (all of them involved in these arrests/deportations
So return them and put them up at mar a lago
Yes, or one of his other resorts.
Trump lies. Always.
Of course they didn't, don't, and never will. I hope the courts are, or have been, made aware of this; but, more importantly, I hope El Salvador releases them immediately and assists them in returning to their home countries and/or a nation willing to provide them asylum.
They can keep the $6 mil if they return them all
File under: duh
then let's get them out
Hey, Rubio set this whole El Salvador prison idea in motion- Rubio needs to be held accountable as the top negotiator and organizer. Little Marco was so proud of his work too- even got great news coverage for it!
Oh, they only have authority to torture them... 😠
The Felon47 regime lied in filings? I'm not surprised.
Where tf is the UN ?? Toothless per usual. Sanctions on El Salvador now. Should have as soon as that Bukake started w/ the “prisons”.
WTF 🤪
then they should put them on a plane and return them.
If that is the case then they are letting them go, right? Right? I mean, how you hold someone you have no legal authority over in a prison?
If no one has control, then let them out of that prison!! Most of them are law abiding, working, family men. Many were in the US legally because they were already in the process. Yes, there are evil criminals among them, but, until they speak to a judge to weed them out, hold them in U.S. custody.
Most of these immigrants provide very necessary services. (Unless otherwise stated, number is in millions) Education and health services (5.5), Professional and business services (4.7) Construction (3.3) Manufacturing (3.2) Wholesale and retail (3) Leisure and hospitality (3)
Transportation and Utilities (2.1) Financial activities (1.6) Other services (1.6) Public admin (766k) Agriculture, Forestry, fishing, and hunting (439k) Information (415 k) Mining (74k) Excludes military workers. Data From 2023:
Source: USAFacts.org
I picked a bad week to quit smoking weed
Who's footing the bill for the prison's operation?
Kafka would eat this up.
The felon DOESN’T CARE! He is a sadistic monster.
I hope these Nuremburg trials are televised.
Eventually, all autocrats are toppled. Hopefully I’m still alive for the Trump trials.
That's why I'm working out on a daily basis #OutliveTrump
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Daily fruits and vegetables. #OutliveTrump
But he drives me to drink! Do juniper berries count?! 😂
No but their spelling is quite good
Ba dum ssss... 🥁
Scurvy free.
And tonic = malaria free!
Oh definitely. Antioxidants, you know.
Great motivator!
My life expectancy due to a stroke at 38 was 5 years and I hit 6 years so far! When I feel suicidal due to my health, this administration and whats going on 💔 I remind myself I must live to see this administration jailed and we the people get justice ⚖️ 🙏🏽
I truly hope you get to witness this event
Me, too
Feel the same
Shitler plans to die in office. He figures he’ll never stand trial for any of his crimes in and out of office. And he won’t leave, elections won’t happen again under his fascist rule. He’ll not leave without force because he knows he’s cooked.
Problem is that he's suffering from shitty diaper dementia, and is too dumb to think in long game terms.
lol. You think they’ll face consequences
The Nazis did.... kind of....
So if the US says they don’t have authority and El Salvador doesn’t have authority then any country should be able to negotiate to take them and bring them to safety. In my opinion. These people are being tortured daily.
I see, they just take the $6 mil we give them
Wait, Trump lied?
We knew that. The detentions were farmed out.
So, are they going to release all of those that were sent there?? If they have no authority over them, then those deported people shouldn't be in prison in that country unless they've been charged & convicted of El Salvadoran crimes.
Now there's a regime to up-end... I think holding a gun to that guy's head will change his mind really quick.