Must be easy to misspeak and say "honey" instead of "your honor" if you are a condescending asshole who talks like this to women on a regular basis...I hope no one ever lets him forget this moment.
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THIS RIGHT HERE DING DING DING and will there be a malpractice claim
jun 20, 2025, 2:54 am • 4 0 • view
... ... oh you know he's got a new "I'm just kidding why are you being so sensitive" clapback nickname from now until his tombstone crumbles into dust.
jun 19, 2025, 5:38 pm • 0 0 • view
Yeah, that single word in that situation just says so much about him behind the scenes. The mask didn't just slip, it shattered in that moment, and he knows it.
jun 19, 2025, 2:25 pm • 48 2 • view
I feel like a real misogynist would be so nonchalant about it they wouldnt have gotten flustered. I know everybody is obsessed with trying to figure out the tells that reveal if someone is a good/bad person but this aint it.
jun 19, 2025, 2:57 pm • 31 0 • view
Men always get flustered when they reflexively treat women in power the same way they treat women in all other aspects of their life
jun 19, 2025, 6:30 pm • 2 0 • view
That's true yes but they can also get flustered when they accidentally treat a woman they have a professional relationship with the same way as they treat a woman they have a respectful personal relationship with. I'm not saying he isn't a misogynist, just that this clip by itself doesn't prove it
jun 19, 2025, 6:36 pm • 0 0 • view
I just feel like a lot of what I'm seeing w this thread is women saying "I've been treated exactly like that w exactly that attitude" and men rushing to give this guy the benefit of the doubt. This guy has not earned the benefit of the doubt
jun 19, 2025, 6:50 pm • 1 0 • view
I get that but I'm only seeing the opposite: "You can tell this man is scum because of this one clip" like I said I have no clue if this guy is an asshole or not I'm only pointing out how this clip on its own isn't enough
jun 19, 2025, 7:38 pm • 0 0 • view
Look I'm really done w this conversation but tbh I think that if I'm wrong, and women are seeing sexism where there is none, that's not a problem w us but w the fact that we're so used to this shit that it just makes sense to us for this guy to be like the rest
jun 19, 2025, 8:08 pm • 1 0 • view
Thats not at all what I'm saying. Assuming benefit of the doubt for this guy is nothing more than steel-manning the argument against internalized misogyny and also I just think certain people could use benefit of the doubt more often like those who apologize quickly and without being asked.
jun 19, 2025, 9:31 pm • 0 0 • view
The highly professional requirements of court, especially as it pertains to judges, makes non-chalance about blatant disrespect a career altering event.
jun 19, 2025, 3:20 pm • 22 0 • view
Exactly. His lack of non-chalance, to the point of being flustered, shows that he knows he messed up. Of course its not guaranteed he isn't a misogynist but this mistake and his reaction are far from proof that he is.
jun 19, 2025, 3:40 pm • 39 0 • view
I get what you're saying but please recognize that "being a misogynist" isn't a 0 or 1 situation; it's a spectrum and we're all on it, living in a culture that is imbued with misogyny and sexism. Anyway he slipped out "honey" like he forgot he wasn't arguing with his wife—but then: it also means...
jun 19, 2025, 7:54 pm • 11 0 • view
he was thinking of this judge as "woman" more than "judge" regardless. He'd never accidentally call a male judge "honey" & I highly doubt he'd ever call a male judge "buddy" as if forgetting it wasn't his friend he's arguing with. You can "be" misogynist without being deliberately, malignantly so.
jun 19, 2025, 7:54 pm • 23 0 • view
If the issue is thinking of judge as woman rather than judge then why are there so many comments saying it would be better if he called her "mom"? It's the same issue.
jun 19, 2025, 9:15 pm • 1 0 • view
Power relationship. Not that I agree slipping out "mom" helps, because thinking of women authority figures as "moms" is still sexist. But that's what they mean: they think it would be more like a kid accidentally calling his teacher "mom," which still retains a position of authority for teacher.
jun 19, 2025, 9:18 pm • 0 0 • view
Fair enough thats a good point
jun 19, 2025, 9:42 pm • 0 0 • view
But again, try to imagine a lawyer accidentally calling a male judge "dad." Would. never. happen.
jun 19, 2025, 9:19 pm • 1 0 • view
I thought about the spectrum of misogyny too. But also friends dont call eachother by a nickname with the same frequency that they call their spouses by a nickname. I'd say the reason it hasn't happened to a male judge is the lack of gay/female lawyers. Which is also because of misogyny I know.
jun 19, 2025, 8:43 pm • 0 0 • view
I'm struggling to imagine a woman accidentally calling male judge "honey" or "babe." A female or gay lawyer would not talk down to a male judge in this fashion; they are not allowed to "forget" who is in charge. There really IS a gender imbalance here & I think you're not quite acknowledging it.
jun 19, 2025, 8:52 pm • 3 0 • view
Then you have a weak imagination. I can imagine it and i can also imagine that yes the hammer would probably come down much harder amd swifter on the gay/female lawyer than this guy who mostly got off scot-free. BUT is this clip by itself even a half-decent example of internalized misogyny?
jun 19, 2025, 9:26 pm • 0 0 • view
You keep missing the point, willfully or not, so I will leave the conversation here. Re-read sometime and reflect. Good luck.
jun 19, 2025, 9:29 pm • 0 0 • view
I have a feeling your definition of a "real misogynist" is one of these guys we've got now just openly saying "women are inferior and we must dominate them/take away their right to vote" etc, but you know. They're all real. They're so much non subtle and subtle misogyny and sexism...all real.
jun 19, 2025, 7:55 pm • 9 0 • view
That is a great point I didn't even realize i used the term "real". I suppose I mean a "personal" misogyny where we highlight an individuals actions rather than a "societal" misogyny which is just as important but not worth calling out individuals over since they'll just say "everybody is doing it"
jun 19, 2025, 9:07 pm • 0 0 • view
And fwiw there is no question that the way he was saying "honey" is condescending, and he only uses that word in that tone on women.
jun 19, 2025, 8:08 pm • 6 0 • view
Yes its condescending but if the only women he intentionally uses it on is his wife or daughter then it comes down to a much less personal more societal form of misogyny that's not worth singling him out over. If he intentionally uses it on other non-family women then that's much more cut-and-dry.
jun 19, 2025, 8:54 pm • 3 0 • view
…so is your point that misogyny is okay as long as it’s “only” weaponized within the home?
jun 20, 2025, 6:43 pm • 2 0 • view
He singled himself out, lol. By condescending to a judge in that particular way and here is one of those occasions where "intention" matters much less than *impact.* Ah well, let others learn from his example.
jun 19, 2025, 8:58 pm • 1 0 • view
Okay armchair psychologist.
jun 21, 2025, 11:25 pm • 0 0 • view