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the beastly fido @theophite.bsky.social

and Isaac Newton was an alchemist as well as a physicist and mathematician, but we have lost his alchemical works and kept his mathematical ones. i am saying that that Weizenbaum's opinions on artificial intelligence have more affinity to Isaac Newton's on the Great Work than to the calculus.

aug 29, 2025, 3:27 am • 9 0

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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

in fairness newton's alchemy is very aesthetic

aug 29, 2025, 3:37 am • 8 0 • view
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Louis @louisevans.bsky.social

Had an idea for a novel I never got around to that started with Newton’s corpse disappearing on the eve of his 400th birthday and ended up entangling four separate timelines generated by the cross product of [Newton’s physics works, it doesn’t] X [Newton’s alchemy works, it doesn’t]

aug 29, 2025, 3:40 am • 4 0 • view
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Maxim Raginsky @mraginsky.bsky.social

Keynes thought so :)

aug 29, 2025, 3:38 am • 1 0 • view
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Maxim Raginsky @mraginsky.bsky.social

That may be the case, but so are the opinions of the AI safety crank club.

aug 29, 2025, 3:28 am • 0 0 • view
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the beastly fido @theophite.bsky.social

i think that this is very much the case!

aug 29, 2025, 3:51 am • 2 0 • view
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Maxim Raginsky @mraginsky.bsky.social

Sure, writing a preface to Steiner is crank central, but what bearing does this have on Weizenbaum's distinction between judgment and calculation? This guilt-by-association criticism is every bit as ideological as the one put forward by Bender and co.

aug 29, 2025, 6:46 pm • 0 0 • view
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Maxim Raginsky @mraginsky.bsky.social

The problem of where to draw the boundary between judgment and calculation is a political problem, not an engineering one. bsky.app/profile/mrag...

aug 29, 2025, 6:46 pm • 0 0 • view
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Maxim Raginsky @mraginsky.bsky.social

This has nothing to do with whatever beliefs Weizenbaum may have had regarding humans' direct psychic access to the Akashic records or whatever.

aug 29, 2025, 6:48 pm • 0 0 • view
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Maxim Raginsky @mraginsky.bsky.social

I personally prefer Philip Agre’s _Computation and Human Experience_. I don’t think he could be accused of being a crank.

aug 29, 2025, 3:30 am • 2 0 • view
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Maxim Raginsky @mraginsky.bsky.social

As for Newton, he had enough epistemic humility to refrain from making hypotheses about the mechanism behind action at a distance.

aug 29, 2025, 3:34 am • 0 0 • view