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hilzoy @hilzoy.bsky.social

This is about the AI suicide case. The person I’m quoting is not making the argument I’m about to criticize, so this isn’t directed at them, but: Imagine that we had invented the car, but we found brakes incredibly hard to get right. Would we let people sell cars?

aug 27, 2025, 4:27 am • 89 17

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jientho.bsky.social @jientho.bsky.social

I don’t think your argument works well. Because “we” *did* let people sell cars without seatbelts at first, and without airbags for a long time.

aug 27, 2025, 3:23 pm • 0 0 • view
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Matt Thompson @mvthomster.bsky.social

are you asking this question at a time in human history when there is no car culture, or at one in which it is fully mature?

aug 27, 2025, 7:14 am • 1 0 • view
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Bribleck @bribleck.bsky.social

This is America so yeah

aug 27, 2025, 4:33 am • 5 0 • view
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Clowncone @clowncone.bsky.social

There needs to be an FDA for AI. It should be categorized like narcotics. It should not be injected into society (like it currently is) without meeting standards. Not advising people to commit suicide would be a good place to start

aug 27, 2025, 4:42 am • 0 0 • view
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внутрішній Стамбул @saverag.bsky.social

Ford Pinto

aug 27, 2025, 5:09 am • 0 0 • view
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joepampel.bsky.social @joepampel.bsky.social

Actually that's what happened. Cars sucked. Steering sucked. Brakes were a joke. Gas tanks might be under your seat or in the dash. There were no brake lights or turn signals. Seatbelts were finally required in '68. Insurers fought adding ABS. Every warning sticker is written in blood. We love $.

aug 27, 2025, 9:02 pm • 1 0 • view
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Luis Villa @lu.is

we did find brakes (and steering and everything else) hard to get right, that’s why car drivers kill tens of thousands of Americans a year (globally another order of magnitude or two) and have more or less since before living memory 🤷🏽

aug 27, 2025, 4:32 am • 6 0 • view
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Luis Villa @lu.is

(this is not a defense of OpenAI, who I’m happy to roast as the amoral monsters they are, but the car industry were also amoral monsters and we also let them get away with it in exchange for ruining our cities, killing millions, and uh… the Ford Foundation?)

aug 27, 2025, 4:34 am • 5 0 • view
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Jeffrey Shallit 🇺🇦 @shallit.bsky.social

Just imagine that people buy and sell riding horses even though - we have no idea how horses think - we can't predict their behavior - we can't completely control them and - they cause dozens of deaths every year. Crazy!

aug 27, 2025, 3:13 pm • 0 0 • view
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Stan Alluisi @salluisi.bsky.social

I think the analogy would be - would we let someone with a couple of semesters of undergrad psychology classes treat people with severe psychiatric illness? NO! We require people to have advanced degrees and lots of experience. AI is not ready for mission critical prime time.

aug 27, 2025, 3:52 pm • 1 0 • view
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who cares @maaaatttt.bsky.social

This is also the exact reason why all these companies are pushing this shit, because it lets them off the hook for heinous things as long as “the ai did it”

aug 27, 2025, 3:09 pm • 0 0 • view
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C.T. Cooper @ctc3d.bsky.social

Imagine we invented *kind of* self-driving cars.

aug 27, 2025, 12:38 pm • 1 0 • view
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hilzoy @hilzoy.bsky.social

We could call them "Teslas."

aug 27, 2025, 1:21 pm • 0 0 • view
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Gritmonger 🔵 @gritmonger.bsky.social

We have engineered sycophantic plagiarism engines that feed off of our approval.

aug 27, 2025, 3:11 pm • 0 0 • view
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erictaysom.bsky.social @erictaysom.bsky.social

Yes and we did. Brakes on early cars sucked.

aug 27, 2025, 7:34 am • 4 0 • view