People should sacrifice goals like universal healthcare, police reform, climate change protections, etc, (to beat Trump) but thinking we should put a man against Trump, since a man has beaten him in the past, but two different women have not, that’s unacceptable to you?? 🤦🤦‍♀️

and the “Blue No Matter Who” crowd said we need to win the selection at all costs, right? So even according to their own logic, it doesn’t make sense to put up a woman candidate against Trump, yet they’ve done it twice now, and lost both times .

Congratulations on adding misogyny to your greater evil strategy. That'll help even more, I'm sure. Just keep trying!

Did you know, it's a common misogynist practice to put women in positions where they are destined to fail? Corporations on the brink of bankruptcy do it all the time. Then they can blame the woman if they fail, instead of other details. It's a strategic choice to use the woman as an object.

Just keep apologizing for the Nazis. The Dems failed strategically and rhetorically, and also misogyny was a huge headwind against Clinton and Harris. So your advice would have been to...preemptively capitulate to that misogyny? Isn't that the sort of thing you hate Dems doing?

You get paid by the letter?

I see that neither Daniele nor Jason could answer my question, about why they are OK sacrificing actual human rights and policies that help us, but think this is the time to put a woman in the office for the appearance of progress.. better policies will win you the election, (1/2)

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought feminism and anti-misogyny were progressive values. But you're willing to sacrifice those for strategic reasons. So you admit that the electorate isn't progressive enough to support your agenda. Your agenda just doesn't include feminism.

(2/2) but putting up a woman candidate with conservative/moderate policies won’t. It’s sad you can only look at this and cry about sexism. I guess if most Democrats think like this, the party really is doomed.

You could make the “conservative woman” argument if you were talking about Condaleeza Rice, Nikki Haley, Carly Fiorina, Meg Whitman, Sarah Palin, or Winsome Sears. You can’t in good faith call Kamala or Hillary conservative and expect to be taken seriously. You’re not worth arguing with.

People's willingness to blame the losses on sexism, rather than bad planning by the Democratic Party, is part of why they keep putting up women they knew would lose. They want to distract from the fact that they're not offering us much. If you can cry "sexism!" then policy chat never happens

I voted for Hilary, it's not misogyny to observe the pattern of events that have happened. USA has never had a women president, and women can't beat Trump but Biden could, even when a lot of people don't really like Biden.

When we’ve never, ever had a woman president, an election we cannot afford to lose isn’t the time to try it Not if you care about having the best chance of winning

Hillary was chosen by voters. That's how it works. Kamala was the VP and the only logical person to fill Biden's void. She ran an amazing, high energy campaign, but some leftists couldn't be bothered to vote for her because she wasn't left enough. They are to blame as much as anyone.

She was only logical because they didn't bother to hold a primary and lied about Biden's health until the 11th hour.

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Is this the primary they didn't have? Every one of the people who voted for the Biden *ticket* in the primaries literally voted for Harris. This talking point is 100% bullshit.

She was logical because she was the sitting VP, Jason. Stop disrespecting her. It's a bad look, typical of the left to dismiss the woman. She was a great candidate. This is on the voters for not showing up.

Why didn't they put her in earlier then instead of riding Biden as he decomposed on camera

That's literally what I said dipshit. She was a fucking awful candidate though and a proper primary would have dealt with that.

There it is. Knock the woman candidate. Misogyny doesn't look good on you, fyi. Dipshit.

God you idiots are are so hypocritical. The only misogyny here is you thinking that women can't be held to the same standard as men. Fuck off.

What standard is that? Joe Biden? Bernie Sanders? Who sets this mythical standard you speak of?