47 is less than 53. Only 50 votes are needed to confirm. Republicans don’t need a single Dem to help them. The nominees were getting confirmed no matter what.
47 is less than 53. Only 50 votes are needed to confirm. Republicans don’t need a single Dem to help them. The nominees were getting confirmed no matter what.
True. Trump was intentional for nominating the heads. It's the Senate that holds the blame for confirming the unqualified hacks. Doesn't matter who holds majority. Trump lit the match. The Senate threw it. Nothing wrong with assigning the blame where it belongs.
Sorry, but it does indeed matter who holds the majority. Only 50 votes are needed to confirm nominees and Republicans have 53. Assign blame where it belongs: with Republicans.
I'm afraid you are misinterpreting my comments. Perhaps read them again. RFK was confirmed by party line. In this point with RFK, you don't blame Trump. You blame the GOP that confirmed him. But there were several other nominees, none qualified, that were confirmed with some Dem votes as well.
Those others would’ve been confirmed even without those Dem votes. The only way a Trump nominees’ confirmation is stopped is by Republicans voting no. Doesn’t matter what Dems do.
Then why should any Dem senator ever vote for any Trump appointee?
And the GOP used Unanimous Consent to obstruct Obama and Biden appointees. Schumer chose not to use the same tactic and allowed Trump free rein to QUICKLY put anyone in any position, no matter how unqualified. When they go low, he gives in. (Scroll down to: How can one senator do this alone?)
Again, 47 is less than 53. Those nominees were getting put in no matter what.
WHEN were they getting in? Worst case, they could have slowed the process, which means that the damage that has already been done would have been slowed. Being willing to grind the process to a halt would have given them leverage to say, "Pick someone better, and we'll let them through."
So then why did so many Dems help them anyway?
Their votes didn’t help. The nominees would have been confirmed no matter how Dems voted. Republicans don’t need us, they don’t have to reach across the aisle because they’re a vote or two short. They can take turns voting “no” and looking good— Murkowski and Collins do this all the time.
Whoa! Lemme paraphrase; 'Trump doesn't need my support for him so my support for him doesn't count'
Sometimes Dems in red states have to throw a bone to their constituents. Look, I would love explanation for any “yes” votes from Dems. Justify that shit, tell me why. Explain the game and the goal here. I can handle it. But. Yes, and. However. I don’t blame Dems for what are obvious GOP failings.
Ok. Well that's something you have to come to grips with. I'm from Missouri and despise the GOP to the core. But I'm not a fool to believe that the Democrats have a halo over their head. That's why government is failing us. Elected worry about elections and party instead of morals and their country.
I don’t think Dems have a halo over their heads either. That’s a strawman. I simply understand the limits of minority power, I acknowledge it’s we the voters who put Dems in the minority, and I don’t blame Dems for obvious Republican failings. Government is failing us because of Republicans.
Sure, it’s easier and more satisfying to criticize Dems because you (rhetoric “you”) know they ARE worried about the country. You know this is agony for them. You know they care. Just like you know the GOP doesn’t give a shit so it’s no use yelling at them. (Again, rhetoric “you.”)
Dems haven’t cornered the market on morals but come ON. I’m 100% confident that we would not be such a complete human rights disaster if Harris were president.
Ugh. Ok. Agree to disagree. I am a proud Democrat and union member. That being said, I have no problem assigning blame on anyone. No excuses. That's where I stand. I understand your stance as well, but I'm just explaining mine. So, agree to disagree. Thank you for your comments tho. 🙏
Enjoy your weekend.