One of the question that keeps me up at night these days is whether the courts are up to the job ahead of them.
One of the question that keeps me up at night these days is whether the courts are up to the job ahead of them.
I think the COURTS are up to the job. But don’t be surprised when trump tells Bondi that DOJ cannot enforce orders (if it comes to that) for whatever reason. Or for no reason at all.
If they aren’t. Americans are. And they are armed. It’s going to get ugly really fast if Trump decides to ignore the law and Republicans refuse to impeach him. The founding fathers gave us that tool as a relief valve and gave the second amendment to the states to protect against federal tyranny
the courts got us here!
Monumental task!
Roberts, Thomas, Coney-Barrett, Alito, Kavanaugh, Sotomayer, Gorsuch, Kagan. Need I even say No?
Question is are the people who need to enforce the courts rulings, up to it? It’s been over a month and they Trump/Musk don’t seem to have acquiesced on anything. And have expanded to SSA now.
This is the crux of the upcoming Constitutional crisis. I fear the administration will absolute ignore whatever backbone the courts muster. I too am losing sleep over it. Well, plus measles, bird flu, etc.
That is not a comforting thought and yet— real.
Why do the plaintiffs not request a special master to monitor current TROs? The doors are locked to agencies and no one can report what action DOGE has taken by anyone, presumably without serious security clearances.
Me too!
Yes, but even more so for me, what keeps me up at night is that the administration will just ignore court orders not in their favor. They're not respectful of -- nor afraid of -- anything anymore.
I am out on the ledge with @kimberlyeatkins.bsky.social
Ouch. For me, just now, is the anticipation of him cancelling midterm elections.
What scares me is who is going to enforce? Leg branch laws and judicial rulings enforcement are fed marshals housed and controlled in the executive branch. WTH?
They haven’t been at the SJC that Mitch McConnell stole and manipulated so far. They helped create this monster.
You too?
Why would they be up for it now. They allow the wealthy to DENY, DELAY, AND DEPOSE, until they have exhausted the system.
Repairs cannot even start for 1 year, 10 months, but Felon Skum will ensure that all blue ballots are deleted.
Me too
My suggestions are ear plugs, white noise, and accepting they’re not up to the job.
yes, we need to "gray rock" and bypass this administration and march on as USA patriots 🇺🇸 🗽
Me too.
Courts maybe, SCOTUS with the 6 corrupt MAGAts NO.
To tell you truth I'm wondering if the enforcers are up to the job ahead of them. The question is. WHO are the enforcers? 🤔
That's the biggest worry! Who enforces if this Dictator & his enablers refuse to follow rulings? It used to be the DOJ and SCOTUS, as separate and independent co powers. But now, they are compromised. So when all else fails (hope not), where does America go from there, except a People's Revolution?
We pray that they are... After all they are all appointed bc they're supposed to be the best & the brightest among peers.
I think not
The courts will for the most part uphold the rule of law, but the signs indicate the 🤡 has no intention of following and abiding by their rulings. Also, he's heading toward making Congress powerless. His intent is to rule by exec order.
Trump can’t make Congress powerless. Only Congress can do that and the feckless bastards are not working as hard as they can.
The states need to seize Trump properties then. Musk assets. Order power and water shut to WH.
courts will do it, it's are there any law enforcement with the stones to carry out their orders.
With our Trump selections? Hardly
Not unless they put TROs in every damn case
I feel like that 10 yo me that built the raft from construction scraps and launched it on the river. It floated, it was a little wonky with steering, but it didn’t sink. Please Lord, get us through these political rapids. And one day we will be dry and warm again.
Not a chance 😔
The three equal branches. Congress appears to have decided years ago that the other two pillars should stand while the shrugged off their responsibilities & here we are. I fear we may be too late.
Since the courts have no enforcement power over the supreme executive branch, the answer is almost certainly no. Act accordingly, because rule of law is over in the USA.
Some courts, but certainly not the Supreme Court
I don't think we can rely on them anymore. and it doesn't seem like it will matter, with the DOJ not representing the people, and the administration ignoring court decisions. what are the options then, @joycewhitevance.bsky.social?
...and then, if the courts do actually rise to the occasion, will this Administration actually obey them.
My answer is yes and no. To me it seems there’s some courts that are pushing back against some of the extreme things that’s happening. Then this administration will appeal the ruling to a higher court and sometimes it’s overruled. Let’s also remember the extreme right on the Supreme Court.
No because 1) SCOTUS cons want unitary exec and 2) Humpty Dumpty doesn’t go back together
In Rachel Maddow's book, Prequel, they did give up.
They are going to be ignored
Or if any orders they issue will be followed…
Restless at night. Exhausted all day. Disarray, beyond belief.
I think defenders of the constitution are going to have to show up at the courts in support of those judges when the day comes. I've been thinking we didn't take the threat of Jan 6 serious enough prior to it occurring. We should have been there standing beside the Capitol police that day.
they have to be
The courts are not up to the task. Sadly the final say lays at the feet of SCOTUS which the majority was perfectly fine to give a criminal like Trump immunity. So, no I have zero hope the courts will do the right thing. The final guard rail was the American people on election day & that failed.
💔 agreed. My hope at this point is that the freedom loving countries can hold on to their freedom.
I certainly hope so.
Indeed. 🤞🏼
NO
Sadly, felon 47 has packed the courts with unqualified judges.
If it is keeping you up at night, now it will keep me up!
Limited pool here but juris prudence 💯
Except for current SCJ
Go to bed. They’re not.
and further if they will have the courage to follow on the inevitable path that shows that the president has directly, personally and deliberately committed unlawful acts.... and where THAT leads!
My pressing question is when martial law will be declared.
As soon as we hit the streets.
the narrative must be "PEACEFUL protests" boycotting is an effective tool
As soon as the first shot is fired.
Or when Trump realizes his reign is in jeopardy.
Hate to bring the doom, but I’d expect martial law no later than 3 months prior to the scheduled mid-term elections, so late summer ‘26, but I’d be ready for earlier. If there’s an excuse they’ll go there as soon as they think they’re ready. Stock up & get organised. Good luck
Well the Roberts Kangaroo Court is probably not. Since they did declare Trump above the Law last year
We All Can Yell, Whine, and Post As Much As We Want. But... Until #Trump harms #MAGA enough to where MAGA will No Longer Threaten Physical Violence, Trump (and his minions) have No Reason to curtail any actions they're taking-or planning to take.
Given this current US Horses--- Outfit of the Supreme Court, I have wondered the same thing.
At least we already know Congress isn't.
They weren't up to job of putting trump and his treasonous GOP sycophants where they belong - in prison. I have zero faith that they'll be up to stopping this coup.
Oh, Joyce! Don’t say that! They are performing well. I have to believe justice will prevail in most cases. Or else, we’re screwed…
Same
Rest unassured. They aren’t, society is breaking down, it’s nauseating.
The solution in the Constitution is impeachment.
I thought about this for a long time, and then I looked at the succession order as prescribed by the Constitution. 🤢
I know. It’s bad. Hegseth in the top six. RFK in the top twelve.
God I hope they are 🙏🏼 for all of our sakes !!!!
How do we use the law against people who have no respect for the law whatsoever?
You are not alone!!
I'm mad ...at dem leaders too! Where are they? Yeah, you guys have the same ones on all the time but where are the rest of them? We need EVERY SINGLE DEM REP out there/here EVERY SINGLE DAY... EVERY WHERE!
I believe the lower courts and appellate courts are up to the task. They have shown they are so far. I have less faith in SCOTUS. This court has been stacked by Trump, with the help of Mitch McConnell to be Trumps last line of defense. It is difficult to know what they will do constitutionally.
Remember, Mitch could only accomplish his tasks with the aid & patronage of Leonard Leo w The Federalist Society. If Democracy survives & liberals gain power, Leo needs Justice done unto him as he does unto us. Hang him for existential attacks against the Constitution, sedition, & insurrection.
Robert’s and his corrupt activist judges don’t read or interpret the constitution. They take there marching orders from Trump and the heritage foundation like good little soldiers!
Don't be so sure. What Musk/Trump are doing is a direct threat to the Federal judiciary, including them.
That assumes you follow the courts rulings. If you’re going to be a dictator you don’t need a court system because your word becomes law.
The thing that worries me is that all roads lead to a Supreme Court that was exposed for taking bribes (stop calling them gifts). I still can't wrap my head around nothing being done about that. There weren't even whispers of an investigation.
Makes one think they might all be on the take, at least in numbers that the honest ones can’t match.
We have to pray that they are, it is the only beach of our Government doing the heavy lifting.
Same 😭
Ack! Please don't say that!
Same, same
Me too. Judicial decisions are swayed by the political leanings of the judges. Look at Judge Aileen Cannon for example. A lot depends on the jurisdictions where certain cases are tried. Additionally any new court appointees are likely to be republican appointees resulting in right leaning courts.
Sadly, I don't think so.
You guys wouldn't be in the mess that you are in today if your courts were up to the task.
Yes, and even if the judgements are truly fair and measured, I worry about the delays with the loss of so many workers.
Does it matter? Really? They just ignore the courts anyway.
Nope
🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
My question is what will happen with the military? When it comes to that, which it will.
I fear you might be right! I suspect Hegseth & co are shaping the force into a domestic policing role. It started with purging the upper ranks & JAGs, then deploying troops to the Sthn border. I expect at some point they’ll be deployed to the Nthn border too. Then against protesters… then…
If you're concerned about this then we should be terrified.
The courts can rule, but who at DOJ will enforce it? Isn’t that the issue? We have to start there- I would guess, yes? I hope those faithful to the constitution in “law enforcement “ recognize their duties- we need an Eliott Ness!
I hope so; I fear not.
Remember West Virginia? youtu.be/fg_F_bS6NPY?...
That and a few other things I’ve been wondering , how long before trump forcefully stop the protesters , and how long before he sends our troops over to help Putin .
putin has been weakened for a while now it is up to europe now
Amen
Some judges established a national wide injunction against the Trump Administration pursuant to birthright citizenship and DEI. Why not a nation wide injunction to stop the dismantling of the government. Especially, where Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are concerned.
Why not a nation wide injunction pursuant to cruel and unusual punishment concerns raised by how these cuts directed at the poor should be unconstitutional.
But isn't he already defying court rulings? He is the enforcer of laws, even when courts rule against him, he is untouchable.
Hungary says no.
We’re all losing sleep. The Courts are our only chance. The Senate sure as hell won’t rein Trump in.
I sure hope we’re preparing for the worst though.
L’autre question est de savoir si les décisions des cours seront respectées et mises en œuvre. L’État de droit, ça fonctionne quand le pouvoir exécutif respecte… l’État de droit.
Collectively they are. But SCOTUS can destroy it all in a flash.
Since Trump apparently is ignoring court rulings and there are no consequences, I would say no. Then there’s the matter of the Supreme Court being completely corrupted
The SCOTUS will rule In Trump’s favor every time in order to avoid a real Constitutional Crisis
Good point. Years ago, they should have been compelled to respond to subpoenas. This set up a bad precedent.
Very important question…
Amy Barrett will be when they send everything her way, sadly
Lower courts maybe. SCOTUS is a real concern. At least two obviously bought/sold members: Alito and Thomas, possibly Kavanaugh. And that toweringly ideological, know-it-all wanker Gorsuch is so dazzled by his own brilliance that he's useless as is the craven Roberts. Suboptimal.
That question keeps me up at night, too. I have never felt so helpless before.
Keep fighting. Thank you to these honest judges for standing up (my list of heroes so far) Judge William Alsup Judge Amy Berman Jackson Judge Ana Reyes Judge Deborah Boardman Judge Royce Lamberth Spec. Counsel Dellinger Judge Jamal Whitehead Judge Loren Alikhan Judge Amir Ali
So many things keep me up at night, but this is the one that’s most prevalent. I have a feeling of foreboding that they will not hold. Then, it’s game over. I so hope I’m wrong!
We don’t have the votes on SCOTUS ‼️ scary shites ahead look at Roe vs Wade 50 yrs & they overthrew it! @joycewhitevance.bsky.social
Unfortunately we both know the answer to that one so might as well get some sleep.
I’ve already resigned myself to the idea that they’re going to allow us the odd victory here and there, for appearance sake, but when ‘the’ moment comes they’ll overturn our democracy for their 🍊💩stain king.
Which is why trump is free
More than Congressional republicans.
They aren’t. Trump hasn’t started outright defiance yet.
No, of course not
I hope the courts and the politicians are watching the growing anger emptying into the streets. And I’ve said it before this is how we do it in the US. When we wake up and smell the stink.
And will the Supreme Court let them. Holding my breath.
It should. They aren’t. You’re fucked
Especially given the intellectual dishonesty exhibited by SCOTUS
Well you can sleep or not sleep but anything that ends up in court will eventually be stricken down.
the gate should have been closed before the horse got out but let’s hope it comes back
I sense the desire for corruption to play out the reasoning is currently opaque
It is not the courts that are falling the justice system it is the consequences part. What is the rule of law without the enforcement.
Why would anyone pay for a law degree?
How much will it matter? That’s the question keeping me up at night.
Sadly, I think we know how that's going to go. The Diminished Court has been bought and paid for(mostly). The question is what do we do when they abdicate their duties further?
They aren’t. That ship has sailed. The sooner people realize we no longer live in a democracy the better off we will be. The decisions people make and news coverage will be more accurate.
It’s the highest court I worry about. I believe the lower courts are largely functioning properly, but what happens when the appeals run out?
Any news from Supreme Ct in the foreign aid funding. I remember they put the pause on the lower court order.
Marc Elias's group sure is..however that is a good question as to whether the judges are!
The only court that does not give a damn about law and order and the constitution is the MAGA Supreme Court. Don’t get it twisted. They believe their ungodly religious right will always be in control with a unitary Presidency. Nobody is fooled. We all know their agenda. Voters better wise up.
Less worried about the courts than I am about the fact that there's no one to enforce their rulings.
Nope.
I pray they are
No.
They better be. It’s their job.
Not now.
How many of our courts are complicit?
Any litigation involving the executive branch should go directly to the Supreme Court. We waste so much time when we know that's where it will end.
And WHO will enforce the courts' judgements???? THAT'S MY question! Who is left to force adherence?
US!
I figured no way was I going to be the first with that thought
My dear Joyce, the high courts don’t work with the apolitical justice for which you (& especially your father-in-law) lived & died. Your words are always a balm to my troubled sprits & I hope Bella’s new charge is settling in well. All that said, I fear SCOTUS/Cannon have shown what we can expect.
Pivotal question!
It's not about the courts any more
They are divided like everything else. Trump's FBI, Trump's DOJ, Trump's SCOTUS.
And if they do uphold the law will the DOJ act? That is the critical question. Fascism comes from within.
The courts won't have to worry soon..the orange menace, Leon and eyeliner guy will be dead. We can start over then
Agreed. There have always been mediocre judges, good judges, and great judges. Recently we have malevolent judges and sycophantic judges. We need the great ones to make their presence felt and the good ones to step up. Now.
No
Can they hold? I agree. SCOTUS we know beforehand how they’ll rule. But the lower courts can still be a factor for stalling or stopping this runaway train.
they have no enforcement arm. i mean this seriously. Congressional Dems, governors, state legislators and any sane people in positions of ?power? need to enlist Generals Mattis & Miley to consult and liaison with US Military.
@joycewhitevance.bsky.social A hypothetical question: If Felon47 leaves (whichever way) office before the end of his term and JDV (and P. Thiel) take reign, does the SCOTUS full immunity for official presidential acts still apply?
Absolutely - courts are our best hope for a check on power to what is happening here The legislative branch has not shown a spine / been bought Agencies are being decimated and losing independence Isolating from Western powers Last thing is for people to rise up and mass protest
Agree.
Just ask yourself how many Trump judges there are in Federal Courts. That will answer your question.
... Sad for your loss of sleep bc Merrick Garland didn't do his job ...
great question, what will americans do if not?^^
SCOTUS is the key. Because of course Trump will appeal every adverse decision to them. If they fail us, the US is finished.
and therefore, so is SCOTUS
If the courts were up to the job, he’d be sitting in federal prison right now.
Judges gotta stand up to tyranny
There's only one court that matters and it's not up to it.
Yeah I know we keep waiting for our institutions to save us. Maybe it will finally be *this* institution, I think is what you're saying.
Well, they had 3 years to do something when he was a private citizen, and we see how that worked
I do hope they clear the dockets to prioritize democracy right now.
Sadly, I think that most have been bought, long, long ago.
Lower courts: yup Supremes: nope
Spoiler alert: they’re not
😱🙀😨😧😢 Me,too!
#SCOTUS did this to #America Enabling the destruction of our #Democracy
Make calls every day #5calls Capitol Switchboard (202) 224-3121 Attend town hall meetings Write letters boycott #Bluestormrising #resist
Our leaders need to project a coherent, aligned and believable plan for public to rally support. GOP did so with P25 (it seems). Offering better ideas is not a heavy lift -- use media more effectively, be timely in response to events, align talk points, stiffen resolve with solutions. #makeaplan
The story of the last six years is that they are too slow and not up to the task That's the evidence I'm using. They have not adapted to Trump
Bing fucking go.
Fair comment!
Yes, but I am 50/50, maybe less, that any enforcement of the law will happen.
I get so angry, that I have to take short naps. My brain has known how bad Trump is, but the daily demonstration of his awfullness takes a mental reset.
You are the Good Vance
1933, the Enabling Law approved by the Supreme Court, gave Adolf Hitler the right to govern by decree, that is, to take texts of legislative scope without any parliamentary procedure. This is what Trump is seeking with the US Supreme Court,exactly the same law …he read all about Hitler didn’t he?
Nope, nor are the GOP senate or Congress
The Supreme Court.... nooo. we are in trouble... The Supreme Court has also been bought and paid for in full! The 6 that is!! America will not stand! The founding fathers did not foresee a corrupt exec branch,supreme court and congress colluding!! America has fallen apart!
No, I’m afraid they’re not. He will ignore them anyway, and no one will be there to enforce it.
WE need to ignore HIM and render him ineffective
Not sure unless by some act of God the GOP Puppets grow a Spine, find some Ethics, Morals, and can put Country before Dictatorship. Tall order for many in these times.
Amen. Mine, too.
Roberts’ maximalist view of the power of the Presidency is baffling and will limit the ability of the lower courts’ ability to hem in the Executive.
SCROTUS absolutely is not. The rest? A crapshoot. Drump and Musk won’t comply either way.
because congress isn't
So far, so bad. A non-ex-president would have been in jail in NY right now. Instead of Eww, the sight of an ex-Pres spared prison & allowed to mouth off to a judge," it was "Oh we are too dainty to jail an ex-Pres."
Republicans like it the way it is now and they will defy, legislate and codify to make America into a white male patriarchy ruled by Christian nationalists and oligarchs.
Not the courts, except for SCOTUS, that I'm worried about. We're getting rulings that help. But, administration is already defying court orders (USAID, Firing people). Who's going to enforce them? That's the problem.
Me, too. Me, too.
Same for me.
And how they will enforce orders. It appears the administration has not complied with the orders to fund certain USAID obligations, despite orders to do so.
What keeps me up is what happens if Trump ignores the courts like he’s ignoring congress. We’re done if that happens
we don't accept this clown as our president
Maybe. The Republican regime is running out of lawyers.
Questions for you, Joyce: What measures can the courts use to enforce rulings if the administration fails to comply? Do they have the power to use Federal Marshals to enforce court orders? Could they send in Federal Marshals to arrest Elon Musk if he failed to comply with a court order?
Yet ultimately Trump has control of said Federal Marshalls. Game over, insert coin.
Another question: Will Trump's Mafia Operation run out of lawyers seeing that they fired a boatload of DoJ attorneys that would defend his illegal actions in court.