If the Supreme Court ultimately agrees with what the gov't is arguing today, that the President has broad Article II powers that would permit it to deport people & there can be no judicial review, then literally no one is safe.
If the Supreme Court ultimately agrees with what the gov't is arguing today, that the President has broad Article II powers that would permit it to deport people & there can be no judicial review, then literally no one is safe.
Joyce this has been true for awhile. They have been fully emboldened and the sky is the limit on what they will pull. So much for all of that “rule of law” you lawyers spent years pitching.
Martial law is on the horizon!
Not even them. Who are currently protected by federal law. @chrislhayes.bsky.social
The Supreme Court can’t make rulings which create unaccountable power outside the constitution (both federal and state) which give them authority.Not defining what a presidential official act was, was a mistake rendering their ruling unconstitutional @normeisen.bsky.social @chrislhayes.bsky.social
This CANNOT be the law.
it's not the law, trump violated the law withbthe deportation, in fact but when no one can stop you the law is merely a suggestion
Joyce!!! The SCOTUS would almost have to reverse itself on the "Presidential Immunity" decision... In my humble, pedestrian opinion
From your mouth to …
That would be a winner.
Judges and plaintiffs who challenge the government's actions will end up with threats to them and their family. Trump will ignore rulings and double down on his actions.
Trump can just ignore SCOTUS and no one will stop him. If nobody stopped him from running a shadow government from his golf club in broad daylight when he was a private citizen, he has nothing to fear now.
SCOTUS says Trump has immunity for criminal acts while President, and the Constitution gives him the right to pardon his criminal associates. What could possibly go wrong?
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Jessie, “the fight is over” rhetoric is unhelpful and only gins up more fear.
I didn’t say “the fight is over”. Those are your words. But, looking to traditional remedies will result in more failure. We are in this situation because Democrats brought a well reasoned argument to a gunfight.
Obviously, I was not quoting, but rather characterizing your tone. If you have fresh solutions, please offer them. If not, please consider that the habit of purely negative venting is unhelpful, especially rn. It robs allies of energy and may even be a disguised form of obeying in advance, (imho.)
“habit of purely negative venting” “obeying in advance” Anyone who actually knows me would find humor in this. Presuming to know a person’s character from an online post says more about you than it does about them. Take care.
Sorry to offend you, not my intent, not presuming to know your character. I took issue with your comment, asked you to think about how negative venting can be destructive to what we both obviously care about. If I thought you didn’t care, I wouldn’t have followed you, would I? Again, apologies.
I fear this is reality. As much as I hope economic ruin would turn people against him, as much as I hope the Military would stand by its oath and refuse an unconstitutional order to clear protestors, I just don’t have confidence either will happen RIP 🇺🇸 if neither happens Welcome to Russia West
Or maybe more of a client state, so we can be West Hungary.
Orbán's days appear to be numbered, so perhaps West Russia?
Putin's days are numbered too. Russia's military and economy are in shambles.
The Felon will save Putin.
I doubt that.
He already is
At the moment. Are you trying to convince me there's no hope?
There is always hope but something has to change the dynamic and so far, I am simply blind to it.
Fuck Russia West. You need to check in with the growing protests and ways 47 is being pushed back.
It’s an IF. Good to see the fight. I agree they are growing but the Military MUST side with the Constitution. No number of protestors will defeat this military.
Not with physical force.
With what then?
If 36% of people weren’t willing to leave their house or mail in a ballot, what makes anyone think they will be willing to do any of this? Dictators who were toppled were toppled violently. I do not wish for that, but more than 1/3 of this country didn’t care enough to vote.
Literally no one is safe.
Donald Fucking Trump got us here. Well, #MoscowMitch and old #FuckSchumer helped, without a doubt. No war but class war
Um…yeah Joyce. We got that when they ruled he had presidential immunity.
A number of Nazi death camps were located outside of Germany, including Auschwitz, which was located in occupied Poland.
No one already is, but ye, legitimized is much worse.
Keep going...
What rights can citizens depend on if the court rules against liberty? It would take a show of force and defiance by local and state police to counter the courts. There’s zero discussion about this - so unless hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people protest - we got nuttin’.
Protest isnt gonna cut it anymore ... didnt you guys have an Ammendment specifically for this eventuality? Something about Militias..
Yeah but the right wing nuts took 2A off the rails.
Yeah, but the guys who are all about that amendment are supporting the coup.
.. not all of them
Too many of them.
..thats loser talk..
Then any of us call be "investigated" or designated by the felon and his goons to be a "terrorist", forcibly put on a plane and sent out of the country
Damn! You scaring me 😩
You should be scared. This is as bad as it's ever been, if the court agrees with him.
Looks like israel to me
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Just had almost this exact same conversation right before the hearing.
Only potential good news. He can deport himself
Does the Supreme Court think that they themselves will be safe while giving a wannabe Dictator all the power and immunity from prosecution for the crimes he will commit?
They may not even care. Their job is done and they can enjoy the perks of their positions for years without any consequences
Well then, that would restrain the justices in the pig sty they’ve built for themselves. No respect, no honour, no press, no one giving a damn about whatever the hell they have to say, no Supreme Court case decisions changing anything about anything. Just . . . what? A totem?
Yes, and that is why they should never have a quiet dinner out. Start an ALito tracker, a Thomas tracker..for their public ventures - so we can flash mob there?
Jeez, I am only a 1L in Blue sky Law School and even I understand that. Seems improbable that elected Republicans don't understand that.
My faith in the Supreme Court is not strong, but there is hope - I think.
This is coming from leftists who a few months ago were all in favor of expanding the same Supreme Court to add more justices. Should we still do that? Should President Trump get on that? And now they choose to die on this hill? Deporting criminal gang illegal aliens? No wonder you lost the election
If the law doesn't restrain them, then what will?
Well, a few measures come to mind- a few “very last resort” measures that this American administration is only incentivizing more and more.
Not even scotus.
I've been shouting for years that DUE PROCESS MUST BE PROTECTED. But somehow it falls on deaf ears
How about for the J6 prisoners??
bsky.app/profile/aura...
We are all at risk.
My family has lived here for over 400 years. I wonder which country they'd pick for me ...😳
They have tried to detain Native Americans in New Mexico and Arizona. Their ancestors have been here over 20,000 years. Which country will they pick for them?
I know right? It makes me so angry
Yes, do very angry. 😤
For-profit prisons in El Salvador.
First they came for the immigrants, but... Then they came for the LGBTQ+, but... Then they came for the librarians, but... Then they came for the journalists, but... the judges, the lawyers, the Hollywood elite, the Blacks, the Jews... But you know the rest. Or you should.
Heck, on that logic he could choose to deport 9 justices of the Supreme Court....
How very true.
Should those who can, flee at that point? Asking for a friend. #fascism #humanrights #firstamendment #nokings #mypostwilldoommeandmyfamily
And he’s already disappeared a green card holder.
The judge\SC needs to slap 🍊 and the DOJ for ignoring the trial judge's order or they are essentially allowing him to ignore the very constitution and laws he took an oath to uphold and commit crimes against the American people. The courts must take action now!
Frightening
Oh hell no. We did not sign up to have democracy taken away on our watch. If you are doing nothing, then you are the problem. Ripples matter. Peaceful passionate protest matters. Don’t wait for someone to save us. Learn from fighters: @democracyforward.org @aclu.org @indivisible.org @aoc.bsky.social
I used to feel confident that if the Supreme Court ruled on a case it would be a reasoned decision and I could live with it. Since Citizens United I have no confidence in their decisions.
I am, but only because I live overseas already
Clearing the way for concentration camps for all
Not sure they want to go that far to be honest
Really are we still saying that these immigrants are a test. What comes next we all know how far he wants to go he says it all the time he just keeps putting the middle 🖕 at the law
I'm sorry, how far does he say he wants to go?
If you need to ask that your either not serious or just trolling
I'm not American and I am not familiar with the abbreviation. Explaining what it is is the best way forward.
Who are "they"? Trump has gitmo ready
Gitmo?
Oh, honey.
I'm not going to presume the absolute worst scenario, I'm sorry
Ok, I get that but what do you presume is happening?
To be honest it's probably Elon being a dick to try to make it easy to get rid of illegal immigrants. Elon and Trump like to try to bulldose things through and in this case they see this as their easiest option.
Then by definition you are complacent.
Not at all. I am keeping a beady eye on proceedings and advising people that there is a lot of gaslighting going on from Musk and Trump.
Not mutually exclusive.
There's no need for the over the top stuff. The real stuff is bad enough. Also going on about it on Bluesky is preaching to the converted. Get yourself back on X and go on about it there.
Trump is attempting to utilize the Alien Enemies Act to detain and deport individuals. The last time it was used in the way Trump wants to use it, we had the Japanese American internment camps. Think what you will. Do so at your own peril.
I just think jumping immediately the worst case scenario won't get more people on your side. It will make people think you're a lunatic. You have to be wise to beat Elon and Trump.
The Trump admin is seizing people with no due process under a law that is only to be used when Congress declares war, to deport them to a labor camp in a foreign country that we're paying to detain them, and doing it in violation of a court order to follow the constitution and provide due process.
It is a law that was unpopular in 1798 and led to John Adams only being a one term president.
I see. Nothing surprises me with Trump and Musk anymore.
Yet here you are, sounding exactly like this guy, who's objection isn't that leftists and liberals were right about republicans being fascists, but he's just really annoyed that they were accurately describing them as such for the last 10-15 years. Again, think whatever you want at you own peril
People like you need to wrap your head around what is happening, and you need to do it soon.
And you're here going "Well, they won't cross that next red line. Presuming they will makes you sound crazy" Oh, honey. When the rights of one group are negotiable & can be suspended, the rights of EVERYONE are negotiable & can be suspended. Fascists don't stop at the easy targets. They never do.
Oh honey, just going to the ultimate worst case scenario will switch people off. They'll think you're a nutter, honey. You have to be wise.
When Trump feels he no longer needs the supreme court he will probably deport them too! 🤔
And Supreme Court Barrett voted against Trump and all of a sudden her family's getting bomd threats. Thid is not a coincidencez this is planned, this is suppression, this is theats for her to think twice when she has to vote again.🤬
The sister of Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett received a bomb threat earlier this month, and lower court judges who hit pause on some of President Trump's efforts to dismantle federal agencies and programs have been singled out on social media. Elon and JD always postung their names on X
I do not believe if would work like that. I think he would keep the court for show. I am wondering when we will begin to see citizens of some recognizable note disappeared.
Everyone who was disappeared is of recognizable note to their loved ones, we shouldn't need someone famous or popular to rally against this horse shit.
I agree with you. However there are definitely people who are shrugging them off as gang members. They are reassuring themselves that it couldn’t happen to them and is it really so wrong?But when it is Bernie Sanders or Tim Walz or Meryl Streep it will awaken more people to the danger they are in.
Some of these people have managed to convince themselves that American Treasure Tom Hanks is out there drinking kids’ blood under a Pizza Hut or some such thing. They’ll quickly decide that surely Meryl Streep is the leader of a Venezuelan gang. She is good at disappearing into roles.
Oh yeah, for sure. Some people will think they are safe until they are not. And even then they will believe it is a mistake.
Good point. Every great banana Republic has a kangaroo court.
I hope the next president deports a couple of the supreme court "justices".
no one is safe right now -- I don't need SCOTUS to tell me that
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It would be horrific if the Supreme Court gives him this kind of mulligan not uphold the law witten by Congress the People's Representatives, despite everything in the Constitution, federal law, and traditions dictates.
They'll have to prove it in action as well. We've all seen how they enable monopolies when monopoly is allegedly illegal. Illegal politician bribing is only illegal if you can't hide it well enough. Employees illegally retaliated against. Illegal pollution. All just fines to be weighed cost-gain.
Terrifying
I expect the women + Roberts to save America. Hope I’m not fooling myself.
That's our only chance, me thinks.
And anyone who opposes the dear leader is at risk, just like in Russia, China or North Korea. America isn’t “great” if that happens.
I'm pretty sure this was the case the second he was elected.
We thought we lost an election, and the fact is we lost a revolution. The President, the Congress, and the Courts are united. Who are you gonna send?
And 36% shrugged
We have more ways to fight yet.
wow, you are just a ray of sunshine... how about some of that Law stuff, legal precedence to push-back... or our rights are just a suggestion and we have been lied to by government all along...
Joyce love your optimism of “if”. It’s a done deal. The SC will always side with Trump regarding him being above the law.
Hmm. “The day after the [Joint] address, Barrett joined the Court’s majority in a 5-4 ruling requiring the Trump administration to comply with a lower court order to unfreeze $2 billion in foreign aid.” www.comicsands.com/justice-barr...
Correct! Which Americans will be next?!
Registered Dems?? This is so horrifying!!
College students protesting. Members of the LGBTQ community. Etc.
Etc is right.
They are why we are here. During Biden’s term they gabe him the same power. Chuck, Joe, Kamala and 85% of the rest made a conscious decision to hand our country over to whoever (that’s the fun surprise with a 78 yr old brand new King and we haven’t heard a peep from Jr in months)
GOP hell bent on destroying its own country expecting the SCC to back it again.
@governorferguson.bsky.social and @murray.senate.gov please start taking this seriously
Including SCOTUS itself…
It will usher in a new era of ethnic cleansing in this country.
Yes, that’s what’s at stake.
Who knew the Manchurian Candidates would wear black robes. Citizens United was their shot across the bow. Presidential Immunity their mortal blow. We are one ruling away from the death knell.
except what if they decide against trump and he ignores the. who or what will stop him? they've already given him immunity and even if they hadn't, how would he be stopped, given the present set of office holders he's put in place?
Uncertain times of IF’s bearing our anxieties. Rows of dominoes split off to more rows. Our collective angst rationale as the patterns we see are not new. But which twist and turn will those dominoes lead us? So what do we know… he won’t stop until he controls all levers of power.
It will primarily be the job of our military and law enforcement, where they fail to act, the people will have to step up and do the gloves off approach.
Grok predicts 70% chance of civil war. Half of the people fighting the other half? Trump wins. Or supermajority of ‘We the People’ bridge their great divide to go Ukrainian against Trump? Outcome less certain. IF he goes Tiananmen Square? Trump wins.
That ship sailed a while back. The Supreme Court is corrupted beyond repair.
Are there emigration lawyers available for us folks if this happens?
No. When Trump declares you a Alien Enemy using his powers there are no lawyers, no court, no trial, no due process - you are just shipped off to whatever country will take payment, where you rot in their jail for however long they want. That's it.
‘If You Want a Picture of the Future, Imagine a Boot Stamping on a Human Face – for Ever’ - Orwell
Let us know when Thomas & Alito insert a gratuitous footnote in an opinion calling for Marbury v Madison to be overturned
If… will they?
Yeah, don’t have a good feeling about this.
Amy and one or 2 others are Federalist Society idealogs.
Adding. Busy grading finals, and with grades due...I am picking your brain for knowledge.
I did a quick Google "Federalist views on due process" The AI synopsis is probably 400 words. Looks legit. Due process, separation of powers, judicial review are some bullet points.
What course(s)?
This term 3 in Technical Writing, and 1 in writing (which includes deepfakes, etc. Online, and how fallacies and other manipulations work.
Retired forensic engineer. I did a lot of technical writing.
She has pissed T off already. Solid lady, don't like her or agree with her, but she is tough.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
It means you probably want to know the Federalist Society's position. Because that will likely be hers position too. Don't know, but suspect, that it will be conservative but seak to retain a somewhat diminished constitution.
Pretty sure all but Roberts is. But ACB has a sketchy thing finally about Trump (it seemed that way by how she looked at him). Hopefully she doesn’t cave to the others.
They’re not going to agree - certainly not with his ham handed use of the Enemy Aliens act. And it would be a huge stretch (even for Clarence and Sam!) to find anything supporting this in Article II. Of course, they did invent his immunity out of thin air….
What hinders Trump to expand the Supreme Court if they vote against him…?
He can just declare the court null amd void at this point. He doesn't need the court.
He can say anything. He can't make it true by saying it, not yet.
Can I use the on-line self deportation app to send myself to Denmark?
Including SC
It won’t be long before a citizen exercising their first amendment right of free speech speaks out against Trump and soon after gets “disappeared”.
The government can’t possibly have that power unless there’s an actual war going on and there isn’t.
Ah,yes. About that....
If you seed the government with sycophants then fix the election. Yeah ya pretty much can. Especially if you are a soulless monster.
Praying. Praying those who decide value our Constitution, Democracy and humanity.
The court should remember that if they support the administration on this they will be next.
Just 2 weeks ago on 60 Minutes. youtu.be/FIruscdmHFs
No one is safe now.
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Wow, that is frightening!
What's Title 18:Code 2381 Part I: Crimes, including assault, arson, and counterfeiting Part II: Criminal procedure Part III: Prisons and prisoners Part IV: Juvenile delinquency Part V: Witness immunity...and §1030: Covers fraud and related activity involving computers. TREASON
That would be when America stops being America. I’ll bet Alito and Thomas have their auto pens out right now.
That ship has already sailed, thanks to a corrupt Supreme Court and a Republican party that sold out everything it claimed to stand for in support of a criminal malignant narcissist.
Wonder if the SCOTUS ruling giving the president immunity was signed by auto pen🤔. NMP claims Biden’s pardons aren’t valid because they were signed by auto pen….so if that is the case and SCOTUS used auto pen on the immunity ruling….connect the dots 😜😜
YEs, BUT THEY did tie th Auto Pen usage w claims of Joe's perceived lack of 'presence of mind' (my words, not there's)... In comparison t showman OranguDon's making all his signings in glare of the cameras - Now, wondering if Joe should have a press conference? ...waiting for the next shoe t fall..
This should be the point that we come together and take back our country…not sit and take it.
You took the words right out of my head.
Auto-pens for Autocrats - that tracks.
It's so weird that we still look to a lawless Supreme Court for what, safe harbor somehow. I mean John Roberts facilitated the path for Trump to begin with, ffs. Years before Trump crawled out of the muck Roberts was there tearing down the guardrails for a multi-ethnic democracy.
True.. and when Trump goes down, so will Roberts!
From your lips to the ears of the Goddess 😊
Alito, Roberts, Kavanaugh,Thomas Gorsuch & Coney- Barret all associated with OD. This info in books written by Gareth Gore and Craig Unger. democracyforsale.substack.com/p/dark-money...
What is Creepy is Federalist society connection to 3/4's of court - all are Extreme Rt. Wing members of Opus Dei which was founded by a fascist in WW2 & has always believed in a Unitary Presidency. THEY are the deep state they always used as a Red Herring. There are Opus Dei all through out GOP.
Leonard Leo is the devil behind it all. The head of the Federalist Society and a longtime Opus Dei member, he has worked his evil ways towards a theocracy for a long, long time. He is one of the architects of Project 2025 and Citizens United. An oligarch no one dares cross.
Oh wow, I will have to look up that name. I am planning to read/listen to Gareth Gore's new book on "Opus: The Cult of Dark Money, Human Trafficking, and Right-Wing Conspiracy inside the Catholic Church" on Everand. Check it out: www.everand.com/book/767619634
Thank you! I will look up this book!!
These days I am paying about $10 bucks a month for Everand - which gives me access to tens of thousands of Ebooks AND audio - this one is included. Keeps me from filling up my house w/ MORE books!
Hi! I found a terrific excerpt from the book Opus, online-The Rolling Stone. I posted info in my timeline. Thank you again for the info about this book. The author is amazing. Opus Dei has been singularly one of the most destructive organizations to infiltrate America.
They are the closest thing to the Rt. Wing conspiracy theories about the "Deep State" because many of their members also have ties to Russian Money & Influence. I am presently listening American Kompromat by Craig Unger on Audible which also mentions O.D. www.audible.com/pd/059334349...
Alito, Roberts, Kavanaugh,Thomas Gorsuch & Coney- Barret all associated with OD. This info in books written by Gareth Gore and Craig Unger. democracyforsale.substack.com/p/dark-money...
Karma has come for the supreme Court... Trump is coming after their power and they can't have that!!
Exactly!
It’s either wear red maga hats or get deported to El Salvador
Will the SC recognize that includes at least 3 of their own to start? Sotomayor, Ketanji Brown and Thomas are all POC who could be removed from the bench on a whim, and Kagan and Coney Barrett are female so might get thrown in the mix as well.
At this point it would seem that the self-dissolution of the entire institution of the Supreme Court could be on the table. Hell, after Schumer — a member of the opposition party — threw up his hands and all but gave up his power on Friday, it’s as if the whole damn thing is set to collapse.
Bets on whether or not the response from SCOTUS will be to piss on the Fifth Amendment and say that “Congress is free to remove the executive at any point through impeachment. It is them you should be angry with.”
They’ll ‘specify’ noncitizens only and everyone will shrug and move on to the next crisis. Citizens will be disappeared locally.
Can you count to 5 on that?
I just want to get it over with and know where we stand. Will we be the republic we’ve been or an autocracy? I have a feeling it’s the latter.
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And democracy is dead and there is no constitutional crisis because there is no constitution.
We've been hearing the term "constitutional crisis" over and over. There's a lot of information about it on Wikipedia, but this is my take on what that means under the Musk/Trump authoritarian regime:
No more 3 branches of government, just one ‘dictator’ they are afraid to challenge
Off with the king’s head.
No more law and order No more national security
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We gotta fight back bsky.app/profile/henl...
Not even the SCOTUS. I don’t think they realize that yet.
I'm safe.
Even if they don't, they can't stop him. We are clucked.
We are not safe.
So the Supreme Court is green lighting human trafficking - let call it what it is. That orange turd sold those Venezuelans to El Salvador…. Remember the children in cages, funny how that went silent… the turd was besties with Epstein
No one is safe between now and the time the Supreme Court rules, even if it eventually rules the right way.
And if the Supreme court rules against Trump.... What then? Trump and his minions just don't obey. How many divisions of troops does the Supreme Court have? These are the end times people.
This was my question too (if SCOTUS rules against Trump and he still doesn’t obey, what then?)
It’s called a constitutional crisis. It’s literally already happening in the DC district court (federal trial court) on the same issue. If he refuses to obey, all bets are off.
And all of us "enemy within" are off to the camps.
The operative word here, Joyce, is “IF” … we can hope that having given him immunity for his criminality that they’ll balance out their mistake by … you know … following the constitution. If not, then to the barricades! No, seriously 😳!
Then America is lost. Will Trump rename the U.S. when he has Total control?
Yes…. Shitistan.
At this point I don’t think I would fight a deportation … not even joking about it ..
Soon their monster will take their power. Probably this year. It's not sustainable.
Wonder what they're all going to do when he eliminates congress, too?
This is why I'm concerned things will get extremely bad before they begin to improve. Historically bad.
we have to get him out, sooner so we have a later.
I wish we could all go up there as a team unit and pull him out by his toenails. What a solution! And it would still be less destructive than January 6th.
I am legit scared AF.
🫶❤️🤍💙 We're all in this together
It's something we're going to have to endure and hope people can survive it. Much like during covid with an idiot president who called covid a hoax, there will be people who don't survive his authoritarianism because they are being targeted.
Congress was eliminated a long time ago. What we have now is just a group of hundreds of elected officials whose only concern is making money and getting reelected
Yes.
It’s basically already gone
That's an excellent point. They're really only there in formality anyway. One side does nothing but obstruct and run over everybody else and then when they switch sides, the other one just lays there and lets the evil side run over them. I'm sure I don't have to explain which is which. 🙄
Well, buckle up… basically, they already did! Time to buy guns!!!!
Impunity, immunity.. whatever. Joyce -hang it up, we’re done!
Well, shit. Told you fuckers.
Same with if SCOTUS agrees that there is no jurisdiction to remedy a deportation done like this. Because then there’s no remedy for citizens being held in El Salvador either. That’s frightening.
Is SCOTUS Yarvin-pilled or not? Tune in at 7 to know more.
Which, going far out on a limb here, I predict isn't going to happen. It ... isn't. I know most of the Gitmo-cases justices are gone now. But I don't think Roberts wants the unitary executive to swallow the judiciary as dessert after having Congress as the main course.
We also didn't think that SCOTUS was going to give Trump immunity from prosecution.
Trump wasn't president then, and the issue was past illegality. This is profoundly different, and I'm guessing Roberts and Barrett recognize that. bsky.app/profile/beve...
So you think there is a 5 to 4 majority to not give King Trump a Send everybody to the gulags card. Cool cool. I feel so much better now.
Yeah .... What can I tell ya? That's the best I can do.
You have more faith in Roberts and Barrett than I do, especially Roberts (surprisingly).
Well, at issue *here* is the authority of the judiciary (them!), not of the next administration's DOJ. That's a critical difference.
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It's "disappear people and drop them into the ocean" law
See my pinned post… etc. Expose the tech reich plan! yarvin’s work is highly racist. He’s influencing theil and theil influences vance. trump is a white supremacist through his bloodline. Lots of info on this on my feed.
scary...
Only scary if people continue to obey or even tolerate these lawless thugs….all the way up the chain…Schumer must absolutely step down
Who wants to be Elon’s bitch? I mean really: work and save and pay taxes so he can take what he wants when he wants? And if you complain, off to the gulag? Six weeks ago, we all were citizens. Who’s now up for being a serf to these schmucks?
It could be happening now.
Shades of Pinochet
The “Pinochet did nothing wrong” tshirts are taking on a whole new relevance
Literally wrote a thread about this today….😳 bsky.app/profile/suan...
Makes me think of those guys who wear those helicopter Pinochet shirts. Militias in this nation must be so excited right now.
We've turned into Argentina of the 1970's.
See China for example...the government vanishes them.
Death Flights of Argentina
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I just watched CNN's news clip about our deportees to El Salvadore. It's a state-of-the-art prison for the worst of the worst, but under world criticism of human rights abuses. Problem: the US won't/can't provide names/identities of who we just took there. No due process. Once in you don't come out.
Anyone know who was the carrier? Were they military flights?
We’re going to find out Moms and kids were sent there. ‘By accident’. Wink wink.
Is anyone saying “hey, my husband, brother, etc” was taken? Why isn’t anyone talking? Even anonymously?
Surely someone is trying to list those deported?
Yes, I think ppl are but I don’t know who right now.
DOGE would simply doxx them. If anyone knows anyone who was taken away, I'd first contact ACLU, Amnesty International, Red Cross, maybe a reporter I trusted.
Not yet 🤷♀️. News called them migrants so maybe they were here alone?
A few are talking on the record. A family says their brother got a rose tattoo in Dallas, and ICE used that as proof the guy was in TdA.
Wow. That’s terrifying.
I mean is there any indication that the abductees' families know what's happened?
I haven’t heard a peep. It’s so eerie. My heart is breaking for anyone involved in this. Since I don’t speak Spanish I don’t know if it’s being talked about in Spanish language TV? It seems eerily silent though. I feel like there’s SO MUCH of this story missing. Is it even real?
One person who is the lawyer for a queer tattoo artist fleeing persecution in Venezuela said their client has disappeared and they believe that's where they likely went.
Imagine their relatives and friends are scarred they will be taken as well.
I thought the same.
Like is this story real? I mean ppl are saying they’re afraid but El Salvadorans are not pushovers. They’re not meek and it’s not like not even one person isn’t losing their shit online somewhere like - they took my child’s dad or whatever. It seems very eerie….all the photos and cameras ready?
I’m not saying it’s not real but it’s just off. You know how you get that feeling. Like the govt lied before about so many things…..this feels off. Why is no one, not even one attorney coming out and speaking up?
AC360 spent the entire 30 minutes on this w attorneys and a judge saying WTF? Best I can tell, these are th illegals from a Venezuelan drug gang who also committed a crime here. Everyone agrees they need to be deported. These are the front of the list Biden-Harris should have deported but didn't. 1/
Why? Could have been waiting for court date - due process. 🤷♀️ Also I think Venezuela would not take them back (a big deportation issue). Where do we send them? Biden prob wouldn't send them to a human rights violator. He just wouldn't. So they were still stuck here. Trump doesn't care.
It’s not a problem any longer and that’s because El Salvador is getting paid for incarcerating migrants et al. Pr. Biden’s Administration was trying to follow the law.
Well whoever they are the deserve due process. Period. We can’t just say this person is “bad” or whatever so no due process for them. Kind of defeats the purpose.
Random questions/comments inspired by your post: Did they get due process? The propaganda video is truly disgusting, stayed with me all day. Do you think the initial info about this (101 had no criminal record, etc.) was deliberately false to scare all people of color of any status to leave?
I see below the due process answer…
That video was horrific! Supposedly they made the video before those “alleged” gang members arrived. I’m sure the cult loved it.
There are so many factors. But the people who are here “illegally” who are actual criminals don’t really care anyway. The ones that aren’t (dreamers) don’t even know their home countries. The others have worked or lived here for years/decades. How do you leave?Not sure about the rest.
I’m sure that’s part of the “hope” of those awful videos filmed close up in HD. :(
What are you talking about? Everyone is speaking out. Cecot has been notorious for years!
These men were already in custody. No one knows who has been taken since the names have not been released.
I see. I didn’t even know that. They made it seem like iCE just picked them up. I’m sure that’s what they want ppl to think.
If that’s the case then there’s literally no reason not to release their names and charges….
On Kaitlyn just now... they were all already in federal detention with NO DANGER TO AMERICAN PUBLIC. Pending their hearings as I thought. There was no reason to rush them out. That's why the judge is pissed at DOJ & wants them back.
Yes. People are
Because they don’t know for sure where they went. They go to tgeir amnesty hearing and poof, don’t come back. There is no public list. People are watching the tape to see if they recognize them. One lady said she did
I mean, does anyone know exactly who they are? Under these circumstances they could tell us anything but that doesn’t make it true. And if someone DID come forward to report them missing, would it even make the news or go viral?
I don’t know but you would think with over 200 ppl missing someone would be calling an attorney or alerting the media. But maybe they’ve been advised not to idk….it would go viral on blue sky….
It’s in every paper. It’s all over. Lots of lawyers and relatives. If you haven’t heard it’s because you’re not looking
They have been. “Ms. Casique said her son had no gang affiliation and had entered the United States to seek asylum in late 2023, after several years spent working in Peru to support his family back home. During his journey north, he was injured in Mexico when he fell from a train.”
If you think the Rodney King Riot was bad, think of it in every major city in the US and they will all be armed. millions upon millions. So you go ahead and piss off America. You'll see a hundred times worse than the Rodney King or BLM riots. That is just common sense. Blue Governors call up the #NG
Yup. There’s no violence without violence. I hate this for America, my children, and the world.
When you threaten the lives of the people using tyrannical abuse of power by the government, the people no longer have a choice but to fight. People will not accept this sweep of criminality by SCOTUS or any other entity. And when it happens, it will be too late for the National Guard to stop them.
Time to start shooting back and defend yourself against the tyranny breaking US Constitutional law trying to harm & attack you. If the governors don't get up off their asses and do something, they will start seeing police & ICE getting shot all over the place by the masses. #NOChoice #Despotism
If they agree (and they very well might) then the Constitution might as well be used as fire starter.
You haven’t been paying attention..this has been in the cards for years.
Not even them!
Trump/Musk won’t be satisfied until the presidency has total and complete power, and if that day comes, then this government experiment that we have had going for over 200+ years will come to an end. I have lived 70+ years and I hope I never see this governmental experiment die as Trump wants it to.
This boomer coming to power because of the privilege this country granted him destroying the whole system as he shuffles off of this planet is peak boomer.
When they come to their end of tearing us apart, the government will be dismantled. We worked hard to get this far. I believe when we rebuild, it will be much better because we will have to address the weaknesses, correct them and make them stronger! Ex: a felon can’t run for president!
75 years old myself. I personally knew a couple when I was younger that were young adults in Germany during the rise of Hitler. I was told that even though they were not comfortable they never thought it would get that bad until it did. They were not Jews but left after the war ended up in Texas
I lived in a part of Texas where there was a German POW camp right outside of town during WW2. When the war was over, most of the POW's stayed in the US, in the general area of the camp. They didn't want to go back to what Germany was after the war. Can't say that I blame them for their choice.
That's already happened. It's not like you wake up one day and you're like, ok, this is the day the government fell. History will show that the government of the US functionally collapsed when Trump was allowed back in. What we are witnessing right now is the unwinding.
They already have total and complete power, no one is stopping them from doing anything and everything they want so far.
They have the power we choose to grant them. It might not be pretty when and if we take it back, but we certainly can take it back if enough of us decide to.
That’s the thing though right? The United States is this giant land mass with 50 countries acting as 1 unified place. It isn’t impossible to organize it on a grand scale but it certainly is hard.
It wasn’t any smaller during the civil rights protests, or the anti-Viet Nam protests. But I know these are different times, and it’s not a given that we have the courage and energy to fight for our democracy this time. I sure hope we do, though.
You must all fight! The rest of us in the free world are depending on you all to fight against this far-right take-over. Who voted for it? I doubt even most Trump voters expected a revolution like we're seeing play out in front of us. I doubt even Trump himself can keep up with what's going on.
The majority definitely did NOT vote for this fascist takeover, no! #FascistGOP claims that 1/3 of registered voters voted for them…but they stole the election! Trump even admitted it! And no, the fools who voted GOP didn’t understand anything…that’s why they were stupid enough to vote GOP at all!
People think of states as being Blue or Red. What a mistake! Every state is Blue AND Red — there will be no Mason-Dixon Line to delineate battlefields.
I agree, but at the same time you have to know that some are primarily one or the other. Bible Belt for example.
Or the Coastal Elite states
“Coastal Elite States” is just absurd especially in an age where MAGA Leadership is chock full of “Coastal Elites.” Our country is broadly speaking 51/49 or 49/51. Any blood spilled will be alternate shades of purple.
The richest areas of the country are overwhelmingly Democrat. NYC, Boston, Palo Alto etc..Same for elite wealthy Hollywood, tech sector etc..Bill Gates, Buffet, Soros, Zuckerberg, Google founders etc
The 3 richest men on the planet endorsed Trump…
Look at the percentages in what you see as Red States. Red States are RED with 60% (often much less) and 40% are deep BLUE. Also with today’s military weapons just 5 men w/automatic guns and body armor can create carnage in a Blue/Red shopping mall. Nothing will resemble the Civil War.
Not if they deny the outcome of our elections and declare martial law. We will become Russia. I'm surprised he hasn't demanded we hang a picture of "dear leader" in all of homes yet.
Luis,you are giving in to fear, which is playing into their hands. The first step toward getting out of that habit of living in fear is pausing and recognizing that the statement you’re about to make is fear mongering and will only help the oppressors. Many of us are fighting back. #KeepFighting
Time to see if Harlan Crow's check cleared.
* What happens when Trump Declares Martial Law, replacing civilian rule with military authority, suspending civil liberties and allowing the military to enforce laws. *
Many people will be unalived?
Is he going to claim presidential immunity when charged with illegal acts?
Who will charge him?
Good question. Who's gonna stop him?
I do not trust this SC. Not at all.
Scarily true!
Pretty much don’t feel the least bit safe already.
we can all see John Robert's smug smile as he says "well this is the President, if he truly is out of line he can be impeached, so why are you all freaking out ?"
Exactly this. And Rs won’t do it, for a variety of reasons.
they might possibly would impeach at some point but never convict
You are right. This is the case to watch right now.
Right
They haven't decided yet have they?
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Thank-you, SCOTUS, for your “ruling for the ages.”
What if they send me to another country? There's no country worse than the United States right now. Deport me, my ancestors are from Germany, England, and Findland mostly.
*Finland, that's where I would like to be deported to.
Death camps for the resisters, not going to pay to deport.
That's really dark, but I'm still on board. I've lived mu good times! Just going to fight!
Yep. Trump just declares anyone he doesn't like an "Enemy Alien" and deports them to a random country. No charges No trial No lawyer No due process. Just gone. Disappeared. Welcome to the "new" USA.
Days in office 56 Days Spent Golfing 16 Time Spent Golfing 28.57%
Cost to taxpayers?
They say an average of $3.4 million per trip.
Based on Vance's interview today , I'd say regardless of whatever the supreme Court rules, none of us are safe .
If so then Americans must make sure the first bunch that are NOT safe would be those 5-6 on the bench
When did you think you WERE safe under Trump?
If the Court agrees then it’s time for a military coup to save democracy
And what are Americans going to do about it? He is doing exactly what he said he would do while campaigning. I am exhausted by all the punditry and pearl clutching. Does no one in the US actually have a plan here?
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I think the "plan" is to be very, very concerned. Maybe even get a tad upset. That's all. YOU the PEOPLE need to actually do something about this. Silence is Acceptance.
Bernie and AOC, Gov. Walz , and several other dems are holding town halls and rallies. I'd like to see dems creating some opposition and chaos in congress, holding repugs feet to the fire. The hell with decorum. @housedemocrats.bsky.social @senatedemocrats.bsky.social
I think that's up to us. In the streets peacefully in numbers never seen before. Now.
THIS. It takes only 3.5% of you. Protests need to be peaceful, and they need to be ongoing. Not just a day, but weeks on end. www.bbc.com/future/artic...
It feels like screaming into the void. We need to rally behind these people, give them our time and money, as well as our kudos.
I have not seen a real one at all. We are still over here pretending the midterms are gonna matter.
At least @schumer.senate.gov canceled his book tour lol. Not a word out of him since he finished gaslighting us about his proactive surrender last Friday.
He’s busy playing with his imaginary friends.
Russell Vought explained it in this leaked video. He wants to destroy multiculturalism in favor of his protestant evangelical theocracy. Erase , deport and incarcerate non whites and non believers. Says they'll use the military on protestors. youtu.be/UQjdwsZhE_Q?...
Sheer madness. Even if that was possible, which it isn't, such an endeavour would ruin the US. It would literally become a shell of itself. This madman obviously doesn't quite realise how many Americans are non-white and non-protestant.
Then it's all bets are off. Millions will need to be armed and in the streets because we will have stopped being a democracy at that point.
Grok already predicted Civil War this year ..buckle up
We never was a democracy to begin with
I actually don’t think its chances with scotus are very high. I hope I’m right.
Clearly, we are not safe whether or not the SCOTUS agrees with "what the gov't is arguing".
Is it possible to believe what’s going on and not believe it at the same time ?
Yes. Right there with you my friend.
I wouldn’t even call that deportation. Deportation is authorized by statute and subject to process. It’s more like banishment.
Human trafficking
Disappearing
Or kidnapping
..any word on anyone having trouble getting back in after having left, since his inauguration?
But look a little further… the GOP will not accept a Democrat with equal power, no more than they will volunteer for extinction. If the SC agrees with the gov’ts argument, then we just held our last election…
Chilling. Very Dictator-ish.
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The SEAL Team 6 precedent.
OMG, yes
The question you should be asking is "what are you prepared to do when SCOTUS rules in favor of Trump?" because that's the most likely outcome.
That’s the point, there’s nothing to do. We’re all at the whim of the president. That’s why SCOTUS just can’t rule that way. Anarchy. Pandemonium. 1939 all over again.
I dont know - if they rule Trump can ignore judges, they will make themselves superfluous.
Including them.
Can the judge throw everyone involved in this into jail for contempt pending hearings? Because I feel like a whole lot of people would settle right down if that happened. Trump may have immunity, maybe, but no one else does.
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Between silicon valley & Project25 which is playing out right before our eyes. The deportations are all in project25, the dismantling of all the federal government agencies all in project25, firing all the government workers and replace them with loyalist all in project25 youtu.be/OC629l-wZBQ?...
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They have to leave the earth.
Perhaps to Mars.
They must all be extinguished. Or it won't ever end.
We need to get the word out to the masses. This is the crux of the problem. youtu.be/OC629l-wZBQ
www.opensecrets.org/orgs/heritag... I thought I’d see more billionaire donors. Interesting.
The vote will probably indicate who the Nazis are in SCOTUS.
I think we already know.
At this point I’d welcome being deported. 💩 bout to get crazy up in here.
Even should SCOTUS disagree, they'll put it on the lower courts to enforce their orders. Marc Elias argues there's a mechanism, if they have the courage.
*Republican president. No way Biden or any other Dem gets that leeway, especially from Alito or Thomas.
How much time before it gets to SCOTUS Joyce? This is so scary and absolutely heartbreaking we’re actually looking at the destruction of everything we’ve known
The Federalist Society-run right wing MAGA party ought to think twice. Because turnabout is fair play, and things will turn about, eventually.
This has had me worried for awhile.
He told everyone he was about to be a dictator on day one, he just lied regarding the other days.
Didn't the Nazis deport Gypsies.
The Nazis did not deport people; they murdered and tortured them. They committed genocide.
Yes
I believe they were sent to concentration camps along with the Jewish citizens, gay citizens and Jehovah’s Witnesses known then as Bible Students.
I have complete confidence in the rule of law.
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Even if they don't agree with him though who is going to stop him when he controls the Justice Department which would be tasked to enforce these court decisions if they are not followed?
It is a violation of the foundational right - why they are flaunting it, people fail to see themselves in others and we are just like Passenger Pidgeons
and ending "birthright citizenship" would also make us ALL vulnerable, right?
elections have consequences
After that, dissent becomes a crime. First Amendment would be truly dead.
Yes, that's part of the plan, I agree. They can't pull it off if the courts can stop them here.
Scary AF.
After that, we also have no rule of law. All positions lose all authority. Only violence and force will determine what is allowable.
We need to arm ourselves for protection.
Hobbes' state of nature
You get to experience what it’s like to live in Islamic Republic of Iran.
He’s already making dissent a crime!
And potentially a definition for mental illness.
We must start planning. If SCROTUS upholds the DOJ’s position then… this corrupt regime must be stopped by any means necessary. If the regime declares that the law is dead—then we also do not have to abide by the dead law.
The best time to start preparing is yesterday, the second best time is today. The rage of the people can only be held back for so long.
Nothing about this is derived from Article II. Nothing.
If that happens, I hear Virginia has a really great state motto.
Your tourism industry will screech to a halt won’t it? Many of us are staying away to boycott now many will stay away out of fear.
Honestly... we are a complete shit show here. No one should come to the US right now.
It has to. i would absolutely go nowhere near the U.S. if I weren’t a born-citizen who is at least mostly white. Even as 1 of those, I don’t feel entirely safe.
I am a native-born white citizen and I won't go to the US.
No one is safe in murica
I seen a handful of white tourists getting hemmed up and mistreated. Obviously not in large numbers - but enough to make me not want to visit if I were them
They have to make it look like their policies aren’t racist.
Now is not the time to take the risk #Canada. #boycottUSA travel and tourism and stay safe.
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That or start joining us, did you see what they are doing to Maine?
No, what?
youtu.be/RUM8zYH-0q8?...
Whoa.😳 THAT. IS. INSANE.
I can’t upload the YouTube link for some reason but they were punished for not following the orders of the old orange man. I will try again later.
Visit other countries. There are only two paths: 1. The people rise and the Military stands by its oath and refuses illegal orders by The Felon 2. Economic ruin causes the Cult to turn on him
JFC Something needs to be done.
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Speak out, citizen or not...deportation
Let's see how the Supreme Court does. Trump put some of them in there to protect him now this is a test to see if they are the people's court or Trumps !
I have faith in the SC.
I pray that you're right maybe we just need faith.
It's just that if they fail the test, it's pretty much over.
I Know I pray that they do the right thing
Any law enforcement official who doesn't care what judges think needs to find himself a new profession. Homan must resign. thehill-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/thehill....
And who exactly is going to make him resign? Anyone who tries will be deemed an "Alien Enemy" and shipped off to an El Salvador prison.
It was an aspirational statement. But someone had to float the idea. We need to shed the entire Trump regime as quickly as possible. How? I wish I knew. It's not going to be an easy process.
Research shows it takes 3.5% of a population to engage in peacefull protests over many weeks. This is how to rid yourself of a totalitarian government. It takes MASS protests. www.bbc.com/future/artic...
Time for him to be dragged in front of a judge; I bet his tone will change when faced with contempt and jail.
It seems to me that snatching people off the street without so much as a hint probable cause is kidnapping. If that is still a criminal offense, Homan and all the agents deserve to be charged. Maybe there's still some space available to incarcerate them in El Salvador.
Trump would just pardon them, maybe even preemptively before they're even charged. That's why these fascists wanna be tough guys are so emboldened right now. They know that forcing their illegal agenda forward before any court can stop them and ignoring any injunctions will result in no consequences
Very true. I'd say you would at least embarrass Donald's administration. But how do you embarrass a gaggle of God fearing drunks, rapists, fraudsters and assorted other criminals. You might as well sit in the House chamber waving a paddle that says, "Shame!"
If a criminal co-conspirator pardons his own co-conspirators … those pardons should automatically be void.
Really - this asshat doesn’t care. Move to Russia shitbird.
This is do chilling, so grave, and so terrifying. Does the American public know what’s happening? The people in Congress? The people who voted for him to lower their monthly costs?
If you only watch Fox, or any other of the fascist noise networks, you’d think that this was all trump just “Making America Great Again.” Unfortunately, the vast majority of citizens have no idea of what is transpiring. MSM is beyond useless. 😡
SCOTUS will have to cede their own power in the process.
Let me save you some time. No one is safe.
Alito did this to the U.S. democracy.
God help us.
I’m not sure god cares. If ‘he’ did all the atrocities throughout history would have different outcomes
Free will.....
And as I ask every time, what is the remedy for that? Are we going to willingly submit to a dictatorship?