Why did Trump order Bondi to release grand jury transcripts from the Epstein investigation? They need a judge’s permission & a judge could easily say no. That’s probably the point. Trump can say, yet again, that he tried & the courts stood in his way. Read: joycevance.substack.com/p/following-...
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It’s because he’s an orange Fascist!!!!
And it's also cheap trick according to Barbara McQuade and Rule 6(e) - Donald is desperate now bsky.app/profile/barb... Also according to senator Sheldon Whitehouse, Grand Jury transcripts is but a sliver of a sliver of what the files contain Again Donald is desperate - Lost his msm 'dominion'
This is another Trump attempt to DIVERT attention. If he can PLAY INNOCENT VICTIM long enough - maybe MAGA will forget he IS THE DEEP STATE LEADER. We've been here before, e.g. the TAX RETURNS he "couldn't" release [lie]. After election, he CHOSE to not release them.
It’s too nice a picture
Nothing but a huge bluff, plenty of what America needs to see can be released without a courts permission. Scared to death, potus, knows we know. Sexual predator. God help those girls who were victims, their pain never fades.
Plus, the GJ info won't name the names of the pedophiles
He said “ pertinent” . That means they could pick and choose what is released.
Makes sense. It's definitely on brand.
Well she is Christian
We're going to have to face the fact that this is a feature, not a bug.
Who cares about grand jury transcription I want Epstein files
They discuss every step before it's taken or announced.
He only ordered Bondi to release the files because he knows probably per advisement that this will slow the process down. He's relying on bureaucratic dysfunction. I'm hoping he gets surprised if these proceedings get streamlined and I hope they will
I can rationally deduce that this is a bad faith attempt at a gaslit diversion. he can’t pretend to be powerless when he’s literally wrested all the power. the DOJ/Judiciary aren’t independent now. the Executive has captured Articles 1 & 3 powers. MAGA is the deep state now.
it would be the only time they would obey the court!
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It’ll be the one judge he actually listens too.
He’d have her redact & rewrite them anyway, while claiming that any challenges to their accuracy was “fake news.”
Can a judge weigh compelling national interest in his or her decision to release the testimony?
Also they already have the files. They said it themselves. They are trying to play the long game here to make people forget.
It's beyond stupid that they communicate with each other about serious issues via social media.
"adherents of the conspiracy lifestyle" is inspired cleverness, Joyce -- solid gold!
More intrigued by the timing... Weeks and months of obfuscation yet 5 minutes after the WSJ published trump orders the release... For reference -trawling thousands of documents,sanitising the ones with trumps picture, how long would that take Weeks? Months? Bondi gave trump the heads-up for release
This is way out of his control now. It only gets worse for him from here on out.
Its so transparent. Besides, the transcripts are not what we want.
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups who cannot be constrained by the court except when they want to be constrained by the court.
Also there are out-groups who never get what they want or deserve, from the courts or anyone else.
If only the judge would let him release the one thing nobody was asking for. Oh, well. Nothing to see.
I thought ignoring court orders was a Trump admin thing?!
I wondered that also. There are children involved; not possible.
Just like Trump is going to release his Taxes… 🐂💩
This story and allegations of Trump's pedophilia have existed since at least 2016. Why now?
Wouldn’t the transcripts also focus mostly on Epstein, since it was his case?
of course that is the point!!! Meanwhile Bove will be installed. Why in the world is that not on every single person's topic!!
They’re doing some serious-ass judge shopping as we speak.
I’d rather see more evidence like the birthday cards.
I disagree completely with your assessment. We have already confirmed Trump has the authority to release/declassify anything at anytime with his mind because everything is his as supreme leader. Duh...did you not see all of the proof from the end of his first term
Yes, we all know Trump always obeys judge’s orders. He’s a real stickler for the rule of law 🙄
They won’t. Another divergence
He is relying on the gullibility of MAGAts.
The judge should allow release of anything about Trump and redact the rest since Trump has given his consent
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Everything in the Epstein Case file that can legally be released to the Public should be. “Pertinent” parts screened by Pam Bondi & DOJ Attorneys who ONLY work for Trump, not We the People, will in no way be sufficient. Trump’s bending over backwards to cover this up, so there must be THERE-THERE.
Wrong. They will find a judge to say yes, release them. And what they release will be completely scrubbed, phony documents with no evidence of Trump involvement. The naivety of supposedly smart people never ceases to amaze me.
Yup it’s the felon’s MO.
Should be pretty easy to combat that: Post all the headlines of Trump defying court orders.
because there is a rule that says they cannot...easy out. But here is the kicker...who was the Florida AG at the time that Epstein got the sweet NPA? Its only exception being STATE prosecution.....Pam Bondi...see the pattern yet?
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Absolutely spot on
The courts will agree. He has immunity.
Donald trump greeting 14 year old Jennifer Saunders at the Miss Teen USA pageant. 🤢🤮
It wasn't a trial about trump, he's likely not even in the transcripts- why would he be?
And they won't contain the evidence. This is a bait and switch.
Which will put more pressure on the DOJ to release what they have.
Misusing the law for revenge and retribution is against everything an attorney does when they take an oath to uphold the law!
Someone out there must have the spine — or conscience — to leak the full truth. The public deserves more than sanitized scraps and political stunts. It’s time to tear back the curtain, poppy fields and all.
Seems right. They don't need anyone's approval to release the actual investigatory file including documents, memoranda of interviews, witness statements, etc. This is just excuse-making.
Or they went over the testimony and found no Trump mention. More likely I think. Trump wouldn’t take the risk. They know. Judge could say no. Trump wins. Judge could release. Trump wins.
Yep - that’s the game
Until trump took over the entire government
All the usual caveats about “this time we got him” His maga cult is so steeped in this that it seems the only way out is to do what he promised: release the files - all of them. His bs mind games (lies) may not work bc maga never cared what he was lying about. They care deeply about Epstein.
She could release HER records no need for a judge to grant that. This is just delay delay delay… denial denial denial. He said he’d “grab em by their pussy!” I heard him he was not in a locker room he wasn’t 18 he was a grown man in a bus. But his base bought the locker room bullshit.
Or, could be the transcripts are the one category of evidence that doesn’t implicate him (plus, I thought his call was for release of “relevant” evidence, by which, of course, he means only that which names others)
Bait and switch. All a grand jury needs to hear is enough to recommend a trial. The focus/evidence for that trial was Epstein sexually abusing girls. The FBI has 25 years of evidence compiled. It’s not a sheaf of paper with a staple, it’s a warehouse of evidence. Check Canada. They went there too.
Since when does this administration follow the law?
Plus Maxwell has an active case for appeal.
He's obviously, as usual, counting on his under-informed base! Something tells me it's not going to work this time.
Why? Because no one actually believes 'Operation #Trumpstein' is going to disappear, not even Trump— but he'll keep offering crumbs trying to shift the focus away from it. I’ll tell you what is gonna magically disappear tho… Pam Bondi. Any minute now she’ll be offered up to MAGA as tribute.
The ones from FL were already released last year. www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-...
Right….always an angle
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Why isn’t something ever done about him! It’s sick!!!
The statement set it up, they can blame it on the courts.
Exactly. And the birthday card/letter is a red herring. Why would we know that Trump tried to kill the story? We would not unless Trump leaked it for a purpose.
Judge will absolutely say no. 200 boxes of interviews, photos, and other docs under their exclusive control but they’re going to ask a judge to release grand jury testimony, which is NEVER done? Gtfoh
Because his Mush-for-brains MAGA supporters need a shiny object to focus on other than the fact he won't release any Epstein Files.
What if they spent all this energy doing the good and right things instead?
We'd have nationalized healthcare and flying cars fueled by farts and rainbows.
Precisely. Preach.
Mama Bear is waiting patiently for the Financial Records. Let's blow past the grand jury testimony and get to the meat of it. Follow the Money!
The courts have never stood in his way before. He always finds a way to do what he wants.
Yes but transcripts aren’t the actual list. Don’t be confused on the two
But since he told her to release all of the records, maybe only those transcripts would be withheld from the release ... So, all the videos, the pictures, the client lists and lots and lots more could be released, redacted only hiding the id of the victims!
I thought it was a preposterous suggestion as well, not to mention potentially retraumatizing victims.
Trump has always believed he only has to say it, and it happens. If it doesn't, then they have it wrong.
It’s a BS pump fake.
Specific limited release. Bondi has never shown the ability to operate as a separate, equal branch of our government. Hired to be complicit. She’s at the mercy of Trump. Ironically Trump accused other administrations of interfering with their AG when in fact he’s the one who micromanages.
If they did ask for the grand jury transcripts, would that go to the judge who judged the original case or someone else? Wondering if they've already locked in a hypothetical NO on that request.
They’ve gone from “I will release it all” to “it’s on my desk” to “nothing to see here” to “Democratic hoax” to “release only the credible stuff” to “we’ll ask a judge to release grand jury testimony”. He’s painted himself into a corner over the last 10 years. His cult ain’t buying this new weave
It appears many of them are not. Good.
I ain’t even wasting time pointing out that all this was known. Whatever breaks the spell I’ll celebrate.
I appreciate it too, but I feel like this is the kind of thing that got to a critical mass willing to push back on one specific thing and they'll all be back on their bullshit by Monday. Charlie Kirk pushed back for one day before whipsawing so hard he probably needed a neck brace.
If there’s a grift, I agree. The avg maga doesn’t make money off the cult. They feed money into it. The lies from the GOP are so easily disproven I don’t know how long it can last. But I’ve said that about 1 million times before.
Yeah, and I'm sure it's sunk in for people who had seen some of the Trump and Epstein pictures and handwaved it with "yeah, that was at an event, Trump was a celebrity and a lot of people had pictures taken with him" or "he wouldn't have brought Melania if he was up to no good"
It might have sunk in when they saw the video of Trump and Epstein leering at women at Mar-A-Lago and Trump awkwardly dancing, and it might have been when Trump started acting especially defensive, but I still expect that they'll get the right-wing media to fall in line over the weekend.
That’s a safe bet. Sad but true.
Oh, absolutely. But I'm sure he's looking at this as "can I throw them a piece of red meat that doesn't personally incriminate me or can I call for something that a judge won't release" I'm glad his cult isn't buying it...for now, but they WILL get over it in a few days.
Also wondering if the grand jury transcript and evidence is something Pam Bondi would have access to and if they could make sure that was something they could put out that wouldn't incriminate Trump.
I'd also imagine that prosecutors had plenty of evidence to establish Epstein trafficked underage victims and didn't need testimony/evidence from Trump to prove it (and knew that sending him a subpoena would delay the trial indefinitely.)
This seems like a big distraction from maga regime- what are we not paying attention to?
Exactly. This has been Trump’s MO since he was a child, i.e., transfer blame to others. Trump counts on the public being too preoccupied and/or stupid to see what he’s doing.
The Grand Jury Transcripts won't contain any actual evidence. It's yet another smoke screen. Release the court evidence. Release the docunetary evidence of Trump's visits, who else was there at the time, everything. Unredacted. No matter who it implicates. If Trump isn't a pedophile, show it...
And or, help catch these abusers of children, Do not aid and abet..
Precisely. Teach them.
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Yes that and/or there’s someone who testified before the Grand Jury who he wants to punish publicly. Cruelty is his jam.
The bigger point? Why is POTUS giving orders to the AG?
Exactly, as Joyce posts today: "The president isn't supposed to use the Justice Dept. like it's his own personal prosecutor's office instead of an office with a serious obligation to do justice. . . . "Trump has finally found himself an attorney general who will unquestioningly follow his orders"
And also faulting the last POTUS for not doing so
Thank you
I’m sure that it will look something different than what his base might see!
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