The tech billionaires are all Republicans now but at least Amazon wasn’t able to buy Roomba:
The tech billionaires are all Republicans now but at least Amazon wasn’t able to buy Roomba:
Let’s be honest - Amazon was radicalized not by Roomba being blocked but by the NLRB and their fight with unions. That leads to a different policy & messaging fight than the one you are teeing up.
“now”
So your theory seems to be that ANY regulation of our techno-authoritarian overlords is impermissible. That's unconscionable.
the biden administration's regulation of tech was basically vindictive rather than intended to achieve any obvious effect
It's only "vindictive" if you believe antitrust law should not exist and monopolies are a natural and desirable result of the markets at work.
its vindictive if they were arbitrarily punishing them for being big rather than trying to protect consumers
It wasn't quite as simple as being big. It was using that size and monopoly power to make themselves unaccountable to consumers, the public, and government oversight. Sounds like you think that is a desirable result. I don't.
who cares why should i be interested in any political party that is controlled by billionaires
Damn. This take is completely unprincipled, cynical, and dumb af.
They were always republicans, or, at a minimum, going to become republicans.
Seems inevitable that the billionaires in tech would follow their billionaire compatriots from other industries into the GOP fold. Democrats are just less oligarchical than Republicans, plain and simple.
"We shouldn't enforce the law against anyone sufficiently rich or else they might use their vast wealth against us. This is a reasonable centrist take and not just openly advocating for oligarchy"
You are operating under the false assumption that they weren't Conservative to begin with. They are not likely Republican at all, but they are and have always been willing to place their personal business and wealth above the country and its people.
Maybe we should give a Mario bros option to tech billionaires
Huh?
I think exorbitantly rich oligarchs rushing to pander to and give money to republicans and risking democratic decay in response to democrats enforcing existing laws is a failure on the exorbitantly rich oligarchs
"now"
The fact that you’re paid to have opinions is absolutely astonishing
I can think of some people with a lot of money that find this kind of opinions very useful
Billionaire fascists aren't made by external actors, they are uncovered. Musk, Bezos, Thiel, Zuckerberg, Ellison, Andreesen, Sacks have always been these people. The idea that enforcing hundred year old laws was a mean act that compelled them to go MAGA is an insane theory of causality.
We did almost nothing to moderate content and we enabled a genocide, and we get no credit!
Nauseating…and they hate #Europe. They are going to war with U.S. allies. @ec.europa.eu @vonderleyen.ec.europa.eu
Exactly. Their cozying up to the emperor has nothing to do with being aggressively (or even moderately) regulated. Rather, it's in response to a unique opportunity to protect windfall gains after years of ZIRP and the existential threat of NOT being annointed victor in winner takes all stakes.
Right on; fucking sick of the gaslighting.
bsky.app/profile/wert...
He literally does not how to spell the name of the FTC Chair (it isn't a typo, "e" and "i" are nowhere near each other on the keyboard) and thinks that Dems have been meaner than Republicans to, e.g., Mark Zuckerberg. This thread is... unpersuasive.
Also Facebook hired Brett Kavanaugh's BFF Joel Kaplan in 2014... and Peter Thiel was its first outside investor. Facebook has always been vastly more right wing than suckers in the media understood.
We did this 10 years ago, when Zuck's favorite dinner date was Ben Shapiro. They haven't done shit on harms and problems estimating from their platform. Lots of people (parents, teachers) tried to engage with them, nada. Here's how useless the Zuck sob story is. In 18 a group of education groups
Asked for an avenue to be able to flag directly to meta when they see accounts that are aimed at harassment going after student or school staff, meant to bully a student and school community. These accounts which were way more common would popup and school staff would flag them the only way they
Knew how through meta's normal process and often nothing would happen until it created a problem for meta, even though it was a fake account. Want to know what meta said about it to these major ed groups, some who work with the education initiative on zuck/chen? Nada.
So i mean, i don't onow why we get sentences on zuck's internal dialogue and no one has a clue what these groups have been asking this giant corporation to do around safety. Whereas doing things that cost nothing and buying influence in dc is a story as old as time.
Months ago, people said Dems needed their own "Joe Rogan." Rogan's response was that Dems HAD him... ...& then somehow lost him, chased him away (presumably by being woke & caring about MeToo, diversity & basic respect for all If Rogan had those values to begin with, he couldn't be "chased away"
This is an insane list, Thiel and his minions probably eat puppies with their pharyngeal jaws and Andreesen has some icky Randian views but most of those guys used to be a very reasonable level of weird (notwithstanding the fact that billionaires are a policy failure).
Zuckerberg's indifference to, e.g., the genocide in Burma that has been on his hands for more than a decade seems entirely at odds with your take: www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ne... Musk, Sacks have always been racist and weird. Bezos' antipathy toward unions is pathological.
bsky.app/profile/did:...
Reminder you are talking of the leadership of the party that let George Santos take a safe seat from their guy. And defends Congresspeople's right to insider trading just because. www.youtube.com/watch?v=5udt...
Facebook was so deeply involved (not just aware) with the Rohingya genocide that it is infamously nicknamed The Facebook genocide.
The ones who aren’t brain pussed nutjobs like Musk, are, at best, dickless nihilists and always have been (Zuck, Bezos)
Thanks for finding the words my brain has been searching for. Dickless nihilists indeed.
they’ve always had the same level of weird, just different social circles/tolerance for regulation and wow look how they all break the same way
I mean, what's the difference though. If the choice was either "tech billionaires are all Republicans" or "we have to do a bunch of Republican stuff to keep the tech billionaires on our side", isn't that basically the same thing?
Oh man yeah Antitrust efforts sure are silly. We know it's your job to be a dumb bootlicker Conor, but maybe tone it down a little
tech bros were always republiscum! 🤷🏼♀️ All those unAmerican filth care about is conserving their wealth & power. They faked being decent people who care about women’s rights, climate change…cuz that’s what the majority of US is, but they’re thin-skined narcissistic sociopaths w/fragile male egos.
So if the mega wealthy ever have to hear the word No, they become fascist. You sure you thought this through?
"They told me I cannot monopolize everything, billions must die."
"now" lol
Apparently CEOs all of a sudden go “Oh no I woke up Republican!!!@“ THANKS JOE BIDEN
Yes, apparently that is the premise of his take & what he's saying. Zuckerberg feels *entitled* to more what thanks from Democrats? Why? Fact-checking helps ALL HUMANS not only Americans, not only Democrats. Why would he expect special treatment for doing the decent human thing?
/s tbc
LMAO right. It’s almost like these people didn’t have any reason to critically examine the world around them prior to “these uncertain times”.
the notion that big tech wasn't always run by right-wing tech bros is just sooo funny lol like they're erasing all the racism, sexism, and classism that's been happening out in the open from the jump
Even now, decades in with piles of evidence, no mainstream new source will even entertain the idea that they've always been right-wingers. They feel the need to invent some bloodless rationale, as if marginal tax rates on imports could explain away all this..
There is a strange impulse to always attribute rancid Republican behavior to Democrats. Murc's Law
That is what abusive and otherwise awful toxic ppl do.
Ahh poor baby Zuck wasn't being showered with credit for doing next to nothing, and now he's on board the fash train. You're just another fascist bootlicker.
next to nothing? Facebook, the internet's home of aging normies, was already an ideological pipeline to the right bc the grift was profitable. There were congressional hearings about FB's role in spreading harmful mass misinformation
This guy's entire framing that Democrats spineless genuflecting to tech billionaires, but just not quite enough, is absurd reactionary bullshit. There was no crusade. They've been almost fully on their side in every way that matters and tech bros have been firmly on the right all along
Love that immersing himself "in the right-leaning world of ultimate fighting" was apparently just a side quest & not, y'know, a willing choice he made because he was already comfortable with those people. Guess that was Biden's fault too.
So by "[the Dem's] anti-tech crusade", you mean the FTC enforcing antitrust law?
Middle aged rich white guy ensconces himself in his own stream of bullshit and becomes radicalized — why did democrats do this?
Fuck em
The vitriol in these responses lets you know why they changed sides. They were demonized and pushed out.
Maybe being hateful bigots, sex pests and in some cases, avowed Nazis wasn't something that was "done" to them, but something they chose Most of us are raised to take responsibility for our own choices. Folks like you, seem to want to blame everyone else
As if Conservatives weren't whining, working the refs and bullying social media outlets for years, worse than anything from the center left. It's how they buffaloed Zuck into perverting the algorithm to make sure 4 out of 5 top stories on FB were by Ben Shapiro, at one point. He's just mask off now.
So they can’t take criticism and checks on their power.
It's more that progressive folks have decided they're the root of all evil in an almost cartoonish fashion. People want simple answers to complex problems and for progressives that's"billionaires"
I mean it is generally a bad thing for a very small percentage of the population to have most of its resources while the planet catches fire
Yes you don't have to spend much time on here to know all the talking points. "But the pie video!"
What’s your counter? That it’s good?
That it's a symptom of a bigger problem where progressives have become one big pity party constantly hunting for rationales for why quitting on the future is justified and any positive action is meaningless.
Positive action has to include reducing wealth inequality and the power imbalance it creates. You’re speaking in abstract niceties which mean nothing.
It sure does! But good luck finding anyone on the Left to go fight the fight with you. Here's another response just now. All doom and gloom and it's all rigged etc etc. One big uninspiring pity party bsky.app/profile/schm...
There's no future with granting power and wealth to billionaires. They're siding with fascists while destroying the environment, they clearly do not care about the well-being of others.
Why yes ceos produce no value
It's not enough that they exploit everybody and hoard the wealth from that, they need to be topped off too. You don't seem busy...
They're the reasons why there's an increasing number of impoverished suffering people in the world, I'm not going to thank them, sir, may I have another them for it. They can cry into their wads of $100 bills about it.
real adults form their political beliefs by having principles, not out of who is mean to them. grow up.
Hmm dishonest or actually this braindead somehow 🤔
This mf said "now", as though they haven't always been the rancid molten core of the Republican party.
They were all Republicans before. What are you talking about?
Uh, Google might have to divest some things. And now I know Lina Khan exists and is a goddam ace.
you stupid bitch
"billionaires are republicans now" are you reading the things you're typing or are your fingers just doing that
Give us everything we want or we'll go full nazi!
"Now"
You fucking idiot.
Terrible take.
you're a fucking worm but, you're a Bloomberg columnist, I repeat myself
Sounds like a good reason for why there shouldn't be billionaires.
"Radicalized" by the lightest amount of constraints on them being able to do whatever at all they want to do. I'd say they didn't need much of a push.
They’ve been Republican the whole time, you rube
How much were amazon and Bezos worth in January 2021 and how much are they worth today?
Why is every “opinion columnist” dumb as a brick of cheese? Is that a prerequisite or a coincidence?
Prerequisite.
Saving kids lives? Or, at least trying to save kids lives.
That's the most clueless analysis I ever read.
Aside from Musk aren’t they all just supporting whoever is in power?
I think that’s possible.
I take your point though; Warren has like one tool and it’s not surprising she tried to use it with today’s market concentration.
In what ways was Zuckerberg ever enthusiastically supportive of the Biden administration? They just reshaped their content moderation in an effort to appease the incoming head of the FCC. What is an equivalent action they took to appease the current leaders?
Something Mark Zuckerberg that is equivalent to this new rule, please. bsky.app/profile/esqu...
disrespectfully, this idea is fucking stupid. you think allowing anti-consumer behavior to thrive was one of the magic bullets that would have put dems in power? sucking off the Elon's of the world with their bigotry and hatred? who the fuck are you even and why is this bullshit on my feed?
So, tech billionaires will install a fascist regime just because they didn't want equal rights under the law, but instead special privileges? Sounds like a great reason to get rid of tech billionaires
The Bolshies aren't going to like that question, Conor.
@alt-text.bsky.social
Their wealth bloomed during the Biden administration. It still wasn’t enough, now they get everything
it would be prudent to separate the fight against misinfo from the antitrust stuff
3 braincells rubbing together to say billionaires are Republicans "now" lmao
They were always Republicans you dumb asshole
Sucking up to tech billionaires just so their baby feelings don't get hurt is never going to get us into a better place.
Now tax them out of existence
But then, what you are saying is, the tech billionaires are republicans because they weren’t allowed to buy roomba???
Damn, you're really that spineless huh?
I, for one, am very comfortable with the state enforcing regulation against the rich and powerful even if it makes them mad.
What you really want to do is go back in time and not allow Amazon to buy Kiva Robotics. But it's hard/impossible to know in advance which smaller acquisitions are Kiva Robotics-type situations!
Wow the richest guys on earth are conservative - this is unprecedented
Oh yeah, any rational person would throw their support behind a deranged fascist because their company, one of the largest and most powerful in the world, wasn't allowed to buy the robot vacuum cleaner company
Now do Mike Bloomberg
We should have all pretended that we didn't hate him, that we did not consider him laughable
We wanted to keep it quiet, and we'll live with it
They got to be billionaires through policies that almost overwhelmingly align with what Republicans have always been pushing and they will get even richer from more conservative policies. tl;dr for fatuous and/or bad faith Bloomberg pundits: they were always republicans.
Always love the "look what you made me do," especially when it's what they were already doing.
Futile antitrust moves ushering in the end of democracy but thank god Alexa will never know the dimensions of my laundry room
The new crop of business leaders are now republicans and their workers - college educated middle class and up - voted democratic. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
you're a bootlicker actively asking for corporations to step on you. pathetic worm.
Since when do rich assholes of any stripe need extra encouragement to vote Republican?
Dems enforcing basic consumer protections didn’t cause some of the world’s weirdest rich people to decide to be fascist.
Cry harder.
they were already republican fascists you stupid bastard
They always were, dude. Have been since go. Working with them is a fool's errand.
Remember this, you bootlicking dweeb? www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ne...
You need them. America loves its billionaires. Money is still top issue for voters. Hating on rich for the sake of hating has to stop
Nah fam. We don't need them. The entire reason "money is still top issue" (lol) for voters is because the billionaires keep sucking as much of it as possible from everyone beneath them. Does that bourgeoisie boot taste good btw?
I hate them for being total dicks.
“America loves billionaires”, did you see what happened after the United Healthcare CEO died? The people in this country do NOT like the rich and powerful anymore.
“Money is a top issue” has made my night. Such insight. Such wow. lol
Morons love billionaires. The rest of us fucking hate them.
EAT THE RICH.
CUCK
Look at this guy, managed to use a computer without ever learning what cause and effect is
That's disgusting! They are billionaires, not actual human beings! they are perverted by the mental illness of greed. They can be rich in the privacy of their homes if they want, but not near my children! Society should help them recover by taxing them at 100%. It's the moral thing to do.
No
I think you mean it has to increase. And great news: it will.
what's your favorite flavor of boot polish?
I know a few and I hate them just the same.
Actually probably more. One offered me a job, I swam in their pool. I soaked in the detachment from reality and it made me sick.
Maybe if you stick your head even farther up their asses they’ll stop shitting all over our country.
as Mark Blyth once said, the Hamptons are not a defensible position
True. Once they’re gone, no one will hate them anymore and it’ll finally stop. Until then, tough shit.
Nah the people who exploit our labor and buy off our government to make our lives tangibly worse and our future more uncertain don't deserve any respect. When it comes to oligarchs, you don't actually "gotta hand it to them"
Can't hear you with that boot in your mouth
"You need the feudal lords, otherwise how you would be able to rent a plot of land to feed your family? Hating on the lords for the sake of them being lords have to stop."
You don’t need feudal lords, you need voters and voters are just not with you
I don't need no voters. I need comrades. I need workers organization. I need politics beyond elections. I need to put the owners of capital in their toes. That's what I need. This narrow view of politics as an electoral game played every 4 years is a childish liberal pseudo-democratic delusion.
Don't mistake me for a limp-dicked, white-ass liberal democrat. They're as much of an adversary for me as the crazy fascist MAGAs.
Eat shit loser
We just need to tax billionaires out of existence. Would 70% work. It was 91% in the 50s and our economy had a booming middle class.
Prove to me that a billionaire works a thousand times harder than you, and I'll conceed they've earned their wealth.
"for the sake of hating" Dude out here missing the whole damn point of all of reality. People hate trans people, Jews, immigrants, black people, women even, "for the sake of hating" in that there's no justification for any of that. Billionaires? The list of justifications would use up all the ink
no ❤️
no we don't need them but we do need you to log off and never post on this site again, thanks
It’s not for the sake of hating, dear. It’s because they’re a threat to democracy. It’s because they can buy elections.
shut up freak
Honestly if we learned one this from this whole episode, “hating on the rich solely for being rich” is actually entirely appropriate because they are exactly as selfish and petty as you think.
That's why a majority of Americans show more favor to Luigi Mangione than they do Brian Thompson... It's not "hate" for pointing out how toxic the existence of billionaires is to a society that has more vacant units of housing than counted homeless sleeping on the streets tonight.
Luigi has like 15% support.
lol where did you get this figure. who are they polling
Average of polls I've seen on the matter. A representative sample of Americans.
what polls??
how precisely do we "need" them? If money's the top issue for voters, the people who have accumulated and hoarded that amount of wealth and capital and abuse the power that brings are A Problem, right?
Just ONE billionaire could fix so many social problems by giving up only 1% of their net worth per year to public goods like social housing, universal healthcare, education, and school meals. But ALL of them CHOOSE not to, and hoard more. It's not wrong to despise them for their greed and apathy.
Bill Gates does but exception proving rule.
Also Soros which is why they hate him so much.
You’re either ragebaiting or a desiccated husk
You have a sickness of the soul
"America loves its billionaires." And that's why they spend millions on security, amirite?
It really doesn’t.
For their what now?
Yeah what is this? Is this a parody by Sen?
This is a weird argument to make considering the GOP spent most of Biden's term railing against big tech saying that they were getting censored. So what exactly changed?
we should stop pissing them off and start killing them off instead
Or how about this question: what money and promises of power and deregulation did Trump use to ply big tech from giving a shit about democracy?
this is a bullshit take.
What’s kind of ironic is that, other than the big unresolved Google and Amazon cases, most of the progress on antitrust and consumer protection ended up being on the boring nontech side.
Khan made some progress pushing back on vertical integration, slowed M&A, prevented a lot of hospital rollups, revived regulatory rulemaking as an FTC tool, etc (even got the Republicans to go along with the junk fee rule).
And Trump might keep the Google / Amazon cases alive. But yeah, not clear if there was a marquee policy win against big tech or if it gained Dems anything at all politically
Yeah, but lazy people who were listening intently to the putsch against Khan (being quarterbacked by Google funded stool pigeons) that was forming last fall disagree that any of that is important.
This has nothing to do with the Democrats and has everything to do with billionaires propping up fascists for profit
so we should let tech companies do whatever they want and kiss their feet when they install modest moderation lest they become fascists. ok
Your brain is piss Conor
Donald Trump threatened to put Zuck in jail for the rest of his life, but sure, the problem is that Dems were mean. www.rollingstone.com/politics/pol...
Who the fuck are you again?
Would you like to buy the island I have for sale in Kansas?
Instead of publicly scolding companies, they should have stayed focus on legislation. Legislation even in it's worst forms requires public debate and analysis from committees. Ultimately, there's some type of accountability when you go through the process and not sending tweets or soundbites.
Dems pissed off Tech Bros so bad that they completely changed their internal belief structure and moral compass - Conor Sen
Dammit Conor this was last month’s discourse www.programmablemutter.com/p/why-did-si...
Gotta write fewer than 800 words if you want to be part of the discourse.
A whole lot of lawsuits, that wouldn't have gotten resolved until ~2035, but that now will be dropped. But those lawsuits are like a parked cop car.
Donald Trump wrote a book that came out 5 fcking months ago in which he threatened Zuckerberg with “life in prison.” Absolutely not with the “it was Dems’ fault for not being nice enough”
Trump himself even said today that his threats and being an asshole likely helped Zuck come around to him
Facebook didn't start fact-checking bc they wanted to help Democrats. Facebook didn't start fact-checking bc Zuckerberg was a Democrat. Facebook's role in THIS GENOCIDE ⬇️ is the *real* reason Facebook started fact-checking & EVEN CHANGED THEIR BRAND NAME. Remember? www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ne...
Zuck can’t stop inciting genocides, but boo hoo, the Democrats make him do it because they’re mean :( amp.theguardian.com/technology/2...
Your precious VCs and CEOs are and always have been right-wing dipshits salivating over the chance to genuflect to fascism.
We got to see the real face of selfish, greedy billionaires. It's a shame that they are as bad as the malefactors of great wealth during the Gilded Age.
I dunno man I think rich guys tend to lean right because they’re awful
this may be the most evident logical fallacy witnessed on social media today. congrats. the 'dems' didn't radicalize CEO's/VC's. power and money did.
Look at what you made me do!
You’re right. They should have threatened to imprison them for life. That seems to get you a “win.” Jesus Christ you’re stupid.
Maybe tech CEOs shouldn’t be so fond of eugenics and adolf Hitler have we ever considered that?
They were always conservative. It's about tax cuts. They just don't want to pay taxes.
Suckass loser
Well no Skynet yet so that’s a win.
Clearly they just weren't threatening enough. That seems to work for President Fart Butt.
"We were insufficiently servile to the oligarchs" is a helluva take there, champ
Agreed, amazed the root post is still up but I guess if you say shit this dumb you don't have shame so you don't realise how much you need to have not said this dumb nazi apologist shit Like dang, this guy really went out there and said this nazi apologist BS?!
Heaven forbid tech giants just do things like make sure facts are true for the simple ethics of it
What tangible wins do you get for rewriting reality like this?
You get paid to be this dumb?
Pretty cool take Conor, big tech should just be unregulated.
Your brain is toast man. Jesus Christ
Ah yes the “Democrats made them do this!” defense. “If you don’t let them do whatever they want they will find someone who will.” A classic
Zuck was mad at having to pretend to be a decent human being, so now that he doesn't have to, he's going to do the other thing? Nice victim blaming, bro.
These guys know what we all know. Dems are weak and play by rules. Trump just needs to be bribed. Bribery is way simpler.
Hey this is fucking dumb, Conor
Yes it was our failure to stroke the egos of insecure men that radicalized them. Why didn’t we do more to gently pet them and tell them how smart and wonderful they were and how we appreciated them for all they’ve done for us?
Radicalizing? Oh please. That worm just wants to be loved by the douchebags like Dana White. He’s no different than Elon. Just an insecure loser.
What anti-tech crusade? Big Tech likes Trump because the CEOs are narcissistic assholes just like him. That you don't get that means you don't understand much about the world.
Reality: few improvements to society will be possibly or rewarded so long as American elections are largely just a competition to see which oligarchs spend the most.
Are you out of your mind? Tech CEOs are embracing one of the worst human beings on the planet because they want to protect their profits and also participate in the raping and theft of our country's treasury and assets - like the Russian oligarchs in the 90s or business owners in 1930 Germany.
Being nice to them never got us anywhere either. Let em be Republicans.
Man, shut up
Tell me you know nothing about Peter Thiel without telling me you know nothing about Peter Thiel. But yes, you are very smart.
Do you think Republicans were nice to them?
It's mom's fault dad beats her up, got it.
“Why am I not being rewarded for doing the bare minimum?!!” Type shit
Oh no. Why won’t we think of big tech? Oh no!
"Facebook originally denied that fake news on their platform had influenced the election and had insisted it was unaware of any Russian-financed advertisements but later admitted that about 126 million Americans may have seen posts published by Russia-based operatives." - 2016 DOJ Report
A good portion of the party base is fundamentally skeptical of that sort of wealth concentration. Sometimes that works in our favor, sometimes it does not. What this gives Dems, politically, is either a rift to heal or an enemy to focus on, if voters are looking for one.
If this was the French revolution you would totally jump into the line if a rich person asked you to, huh?
Hey man, quick question. How do you not drown in the shower daily being this dumb?
Enforcing Anti-Trust is not an "anti-tech crusade" you absolute buffoon.
Someone forgot that he’s not posting for the rubes on X. You will be called out for this absolute nonsense rewriting of history here, my man.
I remember folks criticizing "hipster antitrust" stuff where it focused so heavily on big tech companies when the biggest gains for antitrust policy were elsewhere (and we did get some of that under Lina Khan). But also prob has to do with the specific impact of big tech on journalists at the time.
"Why did you force them to support trump?" I'd ask if you had fucking brain damage but you're apparently a Bloomberg columnist so we already have the answer
Sir, you accidentally posted this on bsky, not twatter.
Hey man I dunno how to tell you this, since you seem to be very very stupid, but the rich white guy who initially started a website for rating how hot students at his college were was always a republican.
It's not a "crusade" to try and tackle misinformation and disinformation networks, it's a public health necessity. Not doing so, and failing to meet the current threat is why we're genuinely at risk of seeing the return of measles.
Dunno man, it could just be that these people have finally figured out just how insanely wealthy they are and how much power that brings and don’t like not getting their way.
But Dems never went on any such anti-tech crusade. SF local progressives did do that, which may have played some role. But Republicans *did* do an anti-tech crusade! GOP pilloried Tesla’s green loans, has been berating Social Media in CONG. since 2015, and Trump cancelled Amazon Govt contracts!
Anti tech crusade? The Dems didn’t go far enough. For example Facebook shouldn’t own WhatsApp or Instagram. Eat a whole bag of dicks nerd.
Do you have the security team to be talking like this?
You fuckin suck
Trump threatened to jail Zuckerberg in July
Im sorry but this is BS. He played ball with Trump his whole first term, and Facebook was RIFE with Republican misinformation even before then. He's been with Thiel on this for well over a decade and Time is Linear: nothing Dems did in the last 4 years can explain a position that preexisted them.
What crusade Conor? I've been listeining to Republicans attack "Big Tech" for a decade.
Dumbass take bro 👍
I mean Facebook was literally boosting GOPers in 2018, this is just "look what you made me do" bullshit.
And then their followup in 2018 had a Trump-friendly "we'll stop fake news" focus, with decidedly bizarre marketing that stuck a "Like" icon on crossed-out "fake news." www.flickr.com/photos/jym/5...
haaaaaaaaaaaaa *wow*
Hi! Can you point out how underregulating an industry makes them likelier to behave well or predisposes CEOs to not act like the sociopaths they are? Do you research the problems with neonazi and related beliefs among white men in tech? Do you research the issues w CEOs being right-wing generally
What "anti-tech crusade"... specifically?
There's no reason to think Dems negatively polarized these tech leaders. Lots of tech leaders haven't become bigoted reactionaries. And the ones that have showed signs for a long time. A better question is why we've let these leaders threaten our national security. bsky.app/profile/amyl...
Meta directly profits from Russian intelligence operations. That's the story. www.politico.eu/article/russ...
Bingo!
The correct move would have been to break up the tech companies and jail the founders. A government that doesn’t eliminate its enemies falls to them. Always.
You posted this on the wrong site there are no blue check weirdos here to slop up this nonsense
You know you don’t HAVE to suck ever tech CEO’s cock?
Uh... you think they're lining Trump's pockets with cash because the Dems pissed them off? Not because bribing Trump might bring them more... money? Really? I mean... you're not joking here? This is serious? Not something from The Onion?
the whole tiktok thing has made it clear to every corporation that he is totally for sale. Pay him enough and he will u-turn on any policy.
Imagine thinking it’s the dems who have an “anti-tech crusade” while the GOP is busy trying to undermine medical science and ignoring all medical professionals as they write healthcare laws based on ignorance and personal religious faith.
Oh shit these extremely rich, mostly white guys, are actually reactionary right wingers?
shouldn't pissed them off more by taking all their money and improving the world by using it for almost literally *anything* else
*should've, even
As if they would have benefited from embracing tech? Give me a break.
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Biden forced rich guys to become conservative? That’s big news man don’t be giving away scoops like that for free
Calling out a dumpster fire for being on fire is usually worth it. And, for any other business, it would be a nonissue. I don't think Dems (or anyone else) really understand these companies, much less knows how to tame the beasts they have become. 1/n
Usually, if you visit a restaurant and an unruly crowd harasses the guests and makes them feel unsafe or unwelcome, the restaurant has a vested interest in keeping your business and a legal responsibility to ensure your safety while on their property. 2/n
(Most of us know this by now, but...) For the current crop of tech bros and their companies, we are NOT the customers. These networks have very few (and patchy) legal obligations to ensure a safe environment. And even less monetary incentive to do so. 3/n
So, I don't know if broligarchs joining up with MAGA was fait accompli; maybe someone smarter than me with more time will be able to unravel it. However, wealthy business owners aligning themselves with factions that promise to make them more money with fewer obligations isn't a plot twist. 4/end
Is this a bit
what planet are you on mate
lol. lmao.
Trump was threatening Zuck with jail like 4 months ago
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Trump takes bribed. It's that simple.
I read the whole Thiel op-ed and this is still the stupidest thing I've seen somebody say today.
Is…is this rhetorical question just the “liberals made me become a Nazi because of pronouns” cartoon but for Big Tech?
Oops! Darn’t, i keep accidentally making other people become Nazis
There was no anti tech crusade and Zuckerberg wanted credit for simply doing the right thing. This is the equivalent of "not all white people"
Shut up, you dumb asshole
anti-tech crusade? by doing what? we don't even have GDPR here ie what big regulation(s) did they get suffocated with? not sucking up is not the same as being "anti" and even if it were, the other guy has threatened them far more aggressively so one could argue they weren't anti enough
Lina Khan, the proposed wealth and unrealized capital gains taxes, Biden leaving Musk out of the EV summit, many examples.
How is this an "anti-tech crusade"... specifically?
It's not. They're just post hoc excuses for throwing dumb, adolescent tantrums.
So what are the many examples since none of those are an example?
2 of the 3 things on the list aren’t policy proposals or legislation.
thankfully she was bad at her job and not much got done but overall the oligarchs all profited handsomely (corp + personally) and the tax thing was about as campaign rhetoric-never-gonna-happen as I can think of was that enough to memory-hole Jan 6/all the rest? I guess so!
Lina Khan? They banned noncompetes right? That was a real issue workers. I know at least two journalists who got noncompeted out of journalism entirely. Respectfully I think antitrust was and still is a very big issue. the Obama Admin really dropped the ball on it, as far as I can tell.
Non-competes were already banned in California where a good portion of tech workers are.
I mean fair but I wouldn’t call it a good thing that Lina Khan didn’t get more done
(but yes agree original tweet really not great)
Just become a fucking Republican already, for fucks sake.
Lina Khan’s work was pro-consumer- if that’s anti-billionaire, that tells you something.
could you move on to the many examples because none of them are in this post
OMG poor billionaires were being so repressed by checks notes… “anti trust and consumer protections” JFC how do you actually think that’s a good take?
"Lina Khan" is a reason all by herself? No wonder you work for Bloomberg.
It’s embarrassing that you’re continuing to die on this hill. Murc’s law has completely rotted your brain into sludge.
Musk could’ve let his workers unionize if he wanted to be there.
Lol. U fkin idiot 🤣🤣🤣
You rube. You dumb fuckin bitch.
Your theory doesn't hold water because Trump was more disrespectful and inflammatory of big tech. The real problem is that they weren't regulated enough.
So… what? We can’t do regulations anymore? Musk doesn’t get invited to one thing so all of his actions are Dems’ fault? Be fucking serious dude. The tech CEOs have agency too
wow a bunch of good things that have still barely affected tech assholes and vc scum
Lina Kahn is about the only real (ie not “hurt feelings boo hoo hoo someone kiss my butthurt boo boo”) item there I can think of. Either way, she didn’t get many victories but she did jam up the deal pipeline
I guess if the President of the United States doesn't kiss their asses, he's in trouble.
it's insane you get paid to have these untethered takes
Can you provide some of these many examples?
You might as well include not helping them dump their crypto bags on the taxpayers or retail customers, but that's not really a bad thing.
Oh! You’re not serious
we even bailed out their bank
Musk obviously switched because the fraud was finally starting to catch up and the All In guys are just idiots who need other idiots to keep buying their garbage
Still true: bsky.app/profile/stev...
I'm curious, is this post an example of being ratio'd?
Which anti tech crusade are you talking about?
are you smart
lol fuck no
They didn’t go far enough in regulating the ever loving hell out of them and making them public utilities, that was the problem.
I see why you're a columnist for Bloomberg.
What anti tech crusade would that be?
What if the shift had nothing to do with politics and everything to do with financial interests. bsky.app/profile/trav...
There’s nothing that would have been enough for them. They have and use all the power. They want to call all the shots and don’t believe they have to negotiate with anyone. We are in a true Oligarchy!
Who gives a fuck what “radicalized” them? Are they without personal agency and blown by the winds of public opinion? They’re just bad people without consciences
….Conor
If big tech responds to efforts to hold them accountable by supporting fascism and using their power over information and public discourse to swing an election, that is an argument for MORE regulation of these assholes, NOT less. Big tech needs to be broken up. They don’t need a fucking cuddle.
Oh yes, let’s shed a tear for the poor rich tech douchebros who decided to support a literal fascist because their fee-fees got hurt. Please shut the fuck up. These dumpster fire piles of garbage were never on our side and their quickness to bend the knee to Trump proves it.
what “anti tech crusade”?
What fucking anti tech crusade what even are you people yammering about
Ahh - i see engineering has moved from creating useful products to automating scams and scale them Zuck is indeed not an innovator, he is a dude that automates leeching more for less
The mild mannered consumer protections were a bridge too far
Oh, you know, the "crusade" to hold big tech to some accountability. We can't be having that, right?
Regulations. Any kind of regulations. Raising their eyebrows at monopoly. Strongly worded letters politely asking tech bros not to allow the spead of lies that get ordinary people killed. This was crusading, you see. Might as well have been chopping off heads with swords.
“Could we please not have another Pizzagate?”
Nauseating…and they hate #Europe. They are going to war with U.S. allies. @ec.europa.eu @vonderleyen.ec.europa.eu
“radicalizing CEOs” my eyes just fell out
“Maybe the trust and safety people have a point sir” “Thats it they’re all fired and I’m supporting fascist parties in germany they forced my hand”
See, it's ok if they're radicalized, not us plebes tho
Did the Butlerian Jihad happen and I missed it?
did your daddy make you this stupid or did you go to stupidschool?
Why should anyone cater to the petty feelings of these billionaires?
Tech is a lot bigger and more influential than during the Obama years. Democrats believe tech needs to be reigned in. Lina Khan is seen to have done a very good job. What should Democrats do? They look like hacks when they pose with Alex Soros.
Ah…aggrieved billionaires and their fragile egos.
Good god you are an idiot
Oh please, the tech bros didn’t reveal their true fascist colors just because the Democrats vaguely and ineptly attempted to hold them accountable (while Trump threatened Zuck with life imprisonment).
"Dems were mean to them" is the stupidest bullshit excuse people use to pretend that is why they voted for trump or the GOP. That has NEVER been a reason someone decided to support trump. They support him because they like him and/or are racists and/or are greedy selfish stupid fucks.
It's become clear today more than ever that Bluesky is for the left, Twitter is for the right, and there's no centrist platform to be had. People don't go on these sites for info anymore, they're TV stations, you go on to see what you want to see.
You do. It’s Twitter.
The egos of sociopaths is really something. You want to know what turned the tide? Good old fashioned threats. bsky.app/profile/atru...
I reject the concept that the dems had an anti-tech crusade or that CEOs/VCs needed radicalizing to get them to support tax cuts for the very wealthy
Tech billionaires are genius savant world-builders who suddenly lack agency if anyone takes note of the chaos unregulated platforms can unleash when a critical mass of partisans talk themselves into convenient and malicious lies. Then “the dems” made them do it.
Bruh. It's not like they all said "oh noooo~ I got a slap on the wrist, time to create new core beliefs against labor, marginalized people, and Democracy." They were already supporting Trump and a LOT of people were saying as much for YEARS - you just weren't paying fucking attention.
Ah cool, I guess the moral is to never try and regulate anything lest the god kings who rule over all of us decide to be racist.
That’s pretty funny man
You’re right, we needed to break them.
Curious why this is your question instead of “did they actually do anything to tamp down misinformation” (they did not).
Seems like they did just enough to make some people mad and not enough to make anybody else happy.
Biden Dems were basically the New York Jets of politics.
Was referring to meta.
go back to twitter loser
Dems went on an anti-tech crusade when, exactly? Seems like Tech went on an anti-Dems crusade, after Musk spent too much time on his own website and started believing too much bullshit. But Biden was vomiting money and bending every rule and regulation to grow AI, VR, you name it.
Wow this is the worst take I've read today
Give it 15 minutes, someone will do him one better
zuckerberg was famously consistent and working hard on moderation previously. now to look up literally any news article about facebook moderation
👶🧠
You are dangerously ignorant for someone whose opinions are regularly published.
When you swing at the King, don't miss
I just don't think Democrats took retaliation seriously. It takes a certain level of foresight to say "we shouldn't start this fight, even though it's justified, unless we plan to win it"
Yes, most people don't think of ways to succeed in fights that their opponent hallucinates
“Dems made techbros Nazis by telling Zuck it’s bad that his website helped start a genocide.” Do you ever listen to yourself? You people are so fucking brain damaged. Tech bros have agency you mouth-breathing dipshit.
Evidence doesn’t support your position, considering Trump literally admitted to threatening them
Does it ever bother you, this whole thing you're doing here?
....have tech CEOs heard what republicans and trump have said about them for the past 9 years?
i hope your caretakers let you outside every day
I was wondering why you were being either just insanely paint sniffingly credulously stupid as hell or full tilt bad faith propagandist for capital and then I saw Bloomberg opinion columnist in your bio and all was clear
when the boot you're licking eventually kicks your teeth in we'll all be laughing
FYI someone hacked your account. They’re saying the dumbest shit possible.
Hahaha, this is the perfect reply. Because holy shit
So words just don’t mean anything to you. That’s your thing
Dems should have threatened them with jail time, like Republicans did. Guess that doesn’t count as “anti-tech” as much as the most minuscule possibility of any regulation does?
"Anti-tech crusade?" If you think this is the causality, that is disappointing. I expect you do do better than the inside the simple-minded beltway consensus that everything is the democratic party's fault.
Wait. Is that begging the question?
ah yes we would have president harris now if only we had [checks notes] regulated tech giants less 🙄
Oh... we gained so much from collaborating with corporations, didn't we?? The rich have vacuumed so much wealth that we created dustbowl throwbacks of homeless populations redux. Now can we eat a credit card worth of plastic every single week! Oh, sweet wholesome forever chemicals. America.. 🫡🇺🇸
Yeah, the oligarchs are always operating in good faith.