That’s dumb. Universal HC will cost more than the taxes we currently pay. If you want UHC, you agree to higher taxes. That’s fine but that’s the trade-off.
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There’s really no doubt that tax increases would cost less than insurance premiums. Because it’d be a government service, you’re also talking about setting the pay rates for doctors. But the biggest savings would be on drugs. If you have a single purchases for 300 million people, you have leverage .
aug 29, 2025, 3:57 am • 4 0 • view
The one caveat I’d say is that part of the trade off should be erasure of existing college debt and ensuring that medical school is free for people from the US. Again, you’d have great negotiating power with colleges (who would also get their grants back) Free medical school to get government wages
aug 29, 2025, 3:57 am • 4 0 • view
Regardless, single-payer is demonstrably cheaper. It’s why every other prosperous country in the world has moved to that model. At this point crying “HiGeR tAxEs” doesn’t work against anyone who has even a slight grasp of the data. Because the answer is “having more money is better than low taxes”.
aug 29, 2025, 3:57 am • 4 0 • view
Yeah...and?
aug 29, 2025, 1:15 am • 106 7 • view
What about the benefits? Yeah it's gonna cost. The benefits outweigh the costs. Just the peace of mind of not having to worry about healthcare or its costs is priceless.
aug 29, 2025, 4:06 pm • 5 0 • view
Or counterpoint, we stop spending ten trillion dollars on our military that hasn't won a war in decades.
aug 29, 2025, 12:28 am • 30 0 • view
Lol Jesus as they shut down Healthcare across the country you can't help but defend them
aug 29, 2025, 12:34 am • 19 0 • view
It will cost a hell of a lot less than the premiums we pay for the healthcare ceo yacht fund
aug 29, 2025, 3:54 pm • 5 0 • view
Universal Healthcare-like initiatives have already proven to be effective and cost saving. Fluoride was one. School meals was another (to prevent rickets, etc). CEOs want yachts earned off of the back of mistreating preventable disease and for some reason Americans want cod oil instead of medicine.
aug 29, 2025, 4:12 pm • 4 0 • view
Between my employer's contributions and mine — adding up all insurance costs, deductibles, and out of pocket — my family of four's healthcare costs are $30k+ per year. I'd gladly trade that for an equitable tax increase to cover everything and cut out the middlemen.
aug 29, 2025, 1:38 am • 10 0 • view
You are completely ignoring the trillions of dollars of private spending that would be negated in the trade-off creating a massive savings overall. Your post is either bad faith lies or you are just really dumb. Which is it?
aug 29, 2025, 3:04 pm • 2 0 • view
But you wouldn't pay premiums.
aug 29, 2025, 7:19 am • 2 0 • view
Higher taxes but lower overall health care cost, and your personal expenses for healthcare will go down. Its not like your taxes go up but you are still paying $300 a month for insurance with $10000 deductable. So add all those trade offs in to the trade off talk.
aug 29, 2025, 3:18 pm • 2 0 • view
yeah, because you’re still paying for health care, you’re just not paying the middle man anymore. the actual amount of money you pay for healthcare goes down, even if the taxes go up a bit, because now everybody pays for everybody’s care. like roads. can you imagine if only you had to pay for roads
aug 29, 2025, 1:53 pm • 5 0 • view
exactly, once you don't have all these for-profit entities demanding their cut, things can run closer to costs and you save tons of money. Instead of paying 200 a month to insurance and paying the doctor a copay out of pocket, the doc just gets paid and there is no insurance company premium.
aug 29, 2025, 4:28 pm • 2 0 • view
False, and still worth it even if true
aug 29, 2025, 3:31 am • 3 0 • view
Even the Cato Institute demonstrated that we SAVE tons of money by switching from for-profit insurance to universal healthcare.
aug 29, 2025, 12:31 am • 40 1 • view
We’d save money by not paying the middle-men private health insurance companies that don’t provide anything. All they do is suck up money and gate access to care. They’re entirely unnecessary and could be replaced by the government.
aug 29, 2025, 4:58 am • 4 0 • view
you will pay more in taxes and less in premiums and no copays or hospital bills.
aug 29, 2025, 4:19 pm • 2 0 • view
Yeah, but I’d no longer be paying co-pays, deductibles, or premiums
aug 29, 2025, 2:45 pm • 3 0 • view
Hopefully your current healthcare plan covers your CTE
aug 29, 2025, 3:56 pm • 1 0 • view
Take it from the rich who gives a shit
aug 29, 2025, 12:44 am • 10 0 • view
Americans honestly think that healthcare costs what you pay for it. It dors not. You currently pay more per capita than every other country on earth, for a bloated, bureaucratic system that doesn't even cover everyone, and insurance that actively does not pay out.
aug 29, 2025, 4:33 am • 6 0 • view
We also have health outcomes that are mid-range for a third-world/developing country. Among "industrialized" nations, we are the #1 most expensive and dead last in health outcomes almost across the board. (Only metric we are okayish at is life expectancy for those who reach 65+. Any guess why? 😉)
aug 29, 2025, 3:08 pm • 3 0 • view
It’s hilarious that every time this is brought up the fact you’d take home more money on your paycheck is skipped. A tax raise wouldn’t be more than nearly everyone’s current insurance cost.
aug 29, 2025, 3:16 am • 6 0 • view
Okay. I agree to higher taxes. It will still be cheaper than insurance premiums, deductible, copay, and denied claims.
aug 29, 2025, 12:52 am • 21 0 • view
this is false; research has showed that it would actually save taxpayers money (trillions of dollars in fact) to just switch to everyone medicare for all www.citizen.org/news/fact-ch...
aug 29, 2025, 3:00 pm • 2 0 • view
No it won't. Our medical care is expensive because it's for-profit. Everywhere that has universal health care, the costs are much much lower. It's night and day. Those against universal healthcare do so on ideological reasons, not facts or financial realities. Other countries pay less and get more.
aug 29, 2025, 4:25 pm • 7 3 • view
Martha, as always is correct. Tax me baby
aug 29, 2025, 1:12 am • 9 0 • view
And it will cost less than we currently pay in insurance and “healthcare” costs. If the system isn’t profit driven, there’s no way to charge (for example) new parents for skin to skin contact with their own baby ($39.35 - >$4k depending on the hospital).
aug 29, 2025, 2:39 pm • 2 0 • view
Liberals at least pretend not to be conservatives challenge
aug 29, 2025, 12:42 am • 11 0 • view
Do you not pay for insurance? Higher taxes would still be massive savings compared to insurance costs.
aug 29, 2025, 1:50 am • 10 0 • view
Nice republican talking point dork
aug 29, 2025, 4:41 pm • 2 0 • view