Um, yes she does, actually. She agrees with equality under the law, legislated aid for the poor, fair systems that don't favour the rich, loving people. They're all Biblical ideas.
Um, yes she does, actually. She agrees with equality under the law, legislated aid for the poor, fair systems that don't favour the rich, loving people. They're all Biblical ideas.
Nah. They just ALSO happen to be in the bible. They're also Harry Potter ideas. That doesn't mean you give a shit about Harry Potter. When the Bible is used as a cudgel, or an excuse for behavior you prefer, I can tell you *I* don't give a fuck about it either. I'm sick of the argument.
Question remains why Christians are so heavily against those ideas.
Yeah, that really is the question. If you think it pisses of those of you who don’t believe… you have no idea how much it pisses off those of us who actually try to take the words of Jesus seriously…
As an anti-religious person I can’t say it bothers me much, but I absolutely understand your frustration.
ba hahanaha PUH-LEASE 🙄 always a fucking victim
Huh? I don’t think I’ve ever been a victim. 🤷
"It's hard for you, Nonbelievers? No, I follow "god" and it's harder for MEEEEEEE!" 😶
Definitely not what I was trying to communicate, so my apologies.
You didn't & there's no need to apologize. They're just being an ass.
Short text only conversations can easily be misunderstood. I’d rather assume the best of others and apologise. But I appreciate your comment 😀
Some Christians. Many just go quietly about the business of loving people.
Concepts such as equality and aid for the poor predate Christianity.
So does marriage and the 'treat others as you'd like to be treated' ethos ☺️
Those ideas predate the Bible and the Bible is vile
Loving your neighbour as yourself is vile? Interesting point of view.
Holy straw man 😂. Is that what I said? I do think genocide, rape, slavery, bestiality, and racism are pretty vile. I guess you’re good with that part. Interesting point of view though 🙄
You said that the Bible is vile.I assume you meant all of it. That includes its call to feed the poor, protect them from injustice and love your neighbour. If you think they're good things then may I suggest your knowledge of the Bible is a wee bit superficial.
The very very horrible things in it make it vile. You can cherry pick what you think are nice parts but it doesn’t change the very very vile things it says nor does it make them ok
You're a bit black and white there. There are some awful things in the Bible (cf "Texts of Terror" by Phyllis Tribble) but there's also a lot of good. Western Science, for example, grew out of it. But I'm sure there's a story behind why you think the way you do.
Nope. I’m just not cherry picking
So is buying your slaves from the nations around you. Leviticus 25:44-46.
The truly rich don’t brag and the truly faithful don’t demand belief. Real faith shows in action, serving the needy without judgment. If you crave glory you miss Jesus’ way. With respect, the Bible is just a book, the meaning lies in how we live not in claiming its pages. Pay it forward with love
Also, you know those ideas you mentioned that you do like? Yeah, those came from civilizations older than your bible. That's what I mean by not knowing history. Your religion stole almost everything in it from other older cultures. Including most of the characters like God, Jesus, Moses, ect.
The only way you can think those are biblical ideas is to be both ignorant of history and of your bible. smh.
Loving peoplenot in the Bible? Really?.Eg the Great Commandment, 1 Corinthians 13; Sheep and goats in Matthew 25; Sermon on theMountin Matthew 5. Have you ever read the Bible?
Are you alright? You seem to be having a conversation with someone else but aimed at me. 🤷 I have read a bible. It's awful. Badly written, terrible unlikable characters, a petulant childish fascist dictator is supposed to be the main character, his idiot son is the hero? It's illogical and evil.
Fair systems that don't favour the rich: The Prophets, passim Eg Isaiah 5:8 It's all through all the prophets but in particularly Isaiah and Amos. God sent them into exile for these sorts of sins.
This is typically where a xtian says something like "but that's in the old testament". Sure. Go read where Jesus says you're supposed to keep and obey everything in the old testament. You are SUPPOSED to be doing all that murdering. Don't want to murder? Congrats You havebetter morals than your God.
Seriously kid, I can do this all night. Your holy book would be a pamphlet if you removed all the murdering YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. I mean, I'm glad you're better than your god and his fucked up book of evil shit. I'm glad most xtians don't follow those parts. But an awful lot do.
Murder for blasphemy. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD’s name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Murder anyone who doesn't worship as you do. Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
Not a virgin? they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father’s house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, “You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord.” When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB
If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB
Kill Homosexuals “If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB
all slaves should “be subject to [their] masters with all fear,” to the bad and cruel as well as the “good and gentle.” 1 Peter 2:18
Equality under the law: Leviticus 19:15. Legislated help for the poor: Leviticus 19:9-10.
selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 & Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). You should give up now. Your bible is filled to overflowing with horrible ideas, commands, edicts, ect. You should read it.
Seriously? You want to trade bible quotes? I'm game. I betcha I can find more awful shit than you can find not awful shit. Luke 14:26 If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple