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Vivian Moira Valentine @itsviviactually.bsky.social

Bringing back my "X-Men comics basically have two characters named Magneto but because the story never ends we have to keep pretending they're the same guy" take

aug 31, 2025, 8:55 pm • 21 1

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Caelyn @caelyn.bsky.social

Yup! Perfectly put. "Magneto was right!" ABOUT WHAT, MOTHERFUCKER?

aug 31, 2025, 8:56 pm • 1 0 • view
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Vivian Moira Valentine @itsviviactually.bsky.social

Look, absolutely no one has read that comic where the Brotherhood takes over a fictional South American country with a nuke, but we all liked the one where he drops the Red Skull in an abandoned bomb shelter with five jugs of water snd said "Have fun starving, Nazi"

aug 31, 2025, 9:00 pm • 3 0 • view
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Ian / Sìne @vonaether.bsky.social

I was gonna say "three" but looking it up, apparently the "reveal" that Xorn was Magneto was a fakeout? My bad!

The masked mutant named Xorn
aug 31, 2025, 9:03 pm • 1 0 • view
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Becca Petunia 🏳️‍⚧️ @tallgirlpetunia.bsky.social

Xorn was right about everything except the extreme sinophobia inherent to his character...but only if one accepts the original Morrison version of Xorn, where he is implied to be Magneto's conscience, instead of the current retconned Xorn who is more genocidal than Magneto

aug 31, 2025, 9:12 pm • 1 0 • view
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Vivian Moira Valentine @itsviviactually.bsky.social

Oh jeez, don't get me started

aug 31, 2025, 9:05 pm • 1 0 • view
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Sapient PC-98 Tapedeck (Cosette) @cosettetape.bsky.social

It was a triple fakeout Real character>panic rewrite to absolve him of the unrecoverably awful shit the fornerly-real him did>third rewrite to make both "real warcrimer" Mag & "Xorn 'Mag'" into different guys.

aug 31, 2025, 9:05 pm • 1 0 • view
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Vivian Moira Valentine @itsviviactually.bsky.social

X-Fans were a lot happier when you couldn't easily read anything from before Giant-Size X-Men #1, I tell you hwat

aug 31, 2025, 8:56 pm • 8 0 • view
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Becca Petunia 🏳️‍⚧️ @tallgirlpetunia.bsky.social

Get ready for Josie and me to take on Planet X. I'm pretty proud of our discussion there.

aug 31, 2025, 9:02 pm • 1 0 • view
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Vivian Moira Valentine @itsviviactually.bsky.social

I'm looking forward to it!

aug 31, 2025, 9:04 pm • 0 0 • view
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Becca Petunia 🏳️‍⚧️ @tallgirlpetunia.bsky.social

I've honestly learned a lot about Magneto in doing this podcast, and my views on him are currently very different than they were when I got into X-Men fandom. I think the two sides of Magneto are incredibly hard to rectify, and I think maybe Xorn is more important for doing so than I wish he were.

aug 31, 2025, 9:07 pm • 1 0 • view
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Vivian Moira Valentine @itsviviactually.bsky.social

I honestly don't even try, but then, I don't worry about making this one long seamless narrative I see Planet X as the death of the Silver Age Magneto, clearing the way for the return of the guy everyone likes

aug 31, 2025, 9:16 pm • 0 0 • view
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Becca Petunia 🏳️‍⚧️ @tallgirlpetunia.bsky.social

RIGHT, you approach this similarly to me. I talk a lot on the show about viewing the Morrison run as its own thing, and I don't worry a ton about how it connects to earlier runs. I think it's impossible to view something as disconnected as Big Two Comic Runs as being consistent in a meaningful way.

aug 31, 2025, 9:19 pm • 1 0 • view
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Vivian Moira Valentine @itsviviactually.bsky.social

And that is the only way to approach Morrison's run specifically, as they clearly don't give a dang about any X-Men comic released after the end of the Dark Phoenix Saga 😄

aug 31, 2025, 9:22 pm • 1 0 • view
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Becca Petunia 🏳️‍⚧️ @tallgirlpetunia.bsky.social

They're openly opposed to it!!!

aug 31, 2025, 9:23 pm • 1 0 • view
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Vivian Moira Valentine @itsviviactually.bsky.social

I would say McKellan and Fassbender's Magnetos demonstrate the difference, but I'm honestly not sure that Fassbender's Magneto has a consistent political position from film to film

aug 31, 2025, 9:02 pm • 5 0 • view
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Sapient PC-98 Tapedeck (Cosette) @cosettetape.bsky.social

There's the Mag-colm X to Xavier's MLK Jr., & there's the Magnetanyahu to Xavier's liberal American rabbi.

aug 31, 2025, 9:06 pm • 0 0 • view