‘The growth strategy no one will say out loud: rejoin the European Union’ labourlist.org/2025/07/uk-r... – via LabourList
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Should have never joined the common market. Should never have left the common market. The only people making money out of this are the banks lawyers and politicians .
jul 21, 2025, 2:38 am • 0 0 • view
Correct me if I'm wrong but support for Reform and Farage is high at the moment. Hatred for Europe and the EU is widespread in the UK, especially among older, poorer white men. I'd say fix that problem first.
jul 20, 2025, 6:14 pm • 0 0 • view
So, just out of interest: How are you going to fix THAT problem?
jul 20, 2025, 6:36 pm • 0 0 • view
They aren't going to fix that issue because some don't see it as an issue and others just write articles. The LibDems and these Tories are positioning themselves for a Reform government now and what a senior UK civil servant predicted in 2022 is coming true, that the UK will break up from 2029.
jul 20, 2025, 7:47 pm • 0 0 • view
If that should happen, the UK will have similar chaos and democratic uncountability as the US right now. Even with all the stupidity around Brexit and an 80 seat majority for Johnson, never mind the failures of Liz Truss, I am optimistic that the British people are not stupid enough for that.
jul 20, 2025, 8:37 pm • 1 0 • view
We have the same issues as the US. 😔 So, a US type chaos does seem to be the trajectory unless our governing party can replace their leader or the Greens (GRN) take lots of support from the governing party (LAB) and Reform (REF) - both difficult. Scotland is still normal. 👍 bsky.app/profile/left...
jul 20, 2025, 8:55 pm • 1 0 • view
Yes, the voting system is the problem! With a more proportional voting system Reform would be a part of parliament at 20 or 30%, but not able to form a government.
jul 20, 2025, 9:02 pm • 1 0 • view
Yes, I agree. A proportional voting system would instantly change the whole political situation within the UK. However, even though our governing party is left wing they are authoritarian and influenced by similar types of people and money as our previous government and the US, so won't change. 🤷♂️
jul 20, 2025, 9:12 pm • 3 0 • view
Yes, that's my worry right now: Labour becoming more and more authoritarian and trying to emulate those on the right in the hope to garner votes. But why would anybody vote for the imitation? Reality is, they would vote the original....
jul 20, 2025, 9:19 pm • 1 0 • view
The good thing about Reform's ascent is that people are thinking seriously of adopting a PR system that is good enough for all democracies, including N Ireland, except for US, UK and Belarus.
jul 21, 2025, 1:57 pm • 0 0 • view
I'm not so sure. I've had discussions with a whole number of Brits who didn't have a clue about their own voting system, never mind a PR-system. Remember the 'Alternative Vote'-referendum in 2011? It wasn't perfect, but a step in the right direction. People did not understand it!
jul 21, 2025, 5:38 pm • 1 0 • view
Considering, that #Brexit bit off the hands that fed the UK! One wonders why Starmer has not bitten off the hands of the EU committee, pleading to be let back in! #RejoinEU
jul 20, 2025, 6:42 pm • 0 0 • view
Putin was the only one who won from this move. He helped weaken the British economy.
jul 20, 2025, 11:13 pm • 0 0 • view
It’s not a difficult decision and one that should be on every serious political manifesto. Be part of Europe and the economy will be greatly healed.
jul 20, 2025, 4:04 pm • 5 0 • view
I’ll say it. Re-join the EU.
jul 29, 2025, 9:15 am • 0 0 • view
Of course it is, have the guts to do it.
jul 20, 2025, 6:16 pm • 1 0 • view
What the fascists ain't gonna tell you The EU - created by fascists.
jul 21, 2025, 11:46 am • 0 0 • view
Absolutely no brainer
jul 29, 2025, 8:01 am • 0 0 • view
EU doesn’t really need U.K. back. You’re the enemy within
jul 21, 2025, 8:19 pm • 0 0 • view
The UK is losing a hundred billion EVERY year on account of not being in the European Union any longer. Imagine what could be done with that amount of money!
jul 20, 2025, 6:38 pm • 0 0 • view
That figure (over egged) relates to the size of the UK Economy not actual money the Government can spend. Assuming we get the tax revenue from the over egged £100bn, say £30bn we could spend that. But we have to spend about £25bn a year on Membership fees not including extra payments on EU loans so🤔
jul 21, 2025, 1:43 pm • 0 0 • view
Sorry, but you're just making up the numbers to fit your argument. Numbers aside, there are endless experts stating EU-membership doesn't mean a loss. Quite the opposite! Poland, for example, has overtaken the UK in terms of GDP a while ago. That would never have happened outside the EU!
jul 21, 2025, 5:43 pm • 0 0 • view
Poland GDP 2024 ~$908bn UK GDP 2024 ~$3420bn Poland's economy is just over one quarter the size of the UK economy 🤔 The question was not about if EU Membership makes a loss but how much of a gain it produces. For Poland no question. It has received over €150bn from the EU net in support payments 🤔
jul 21, 2025, 8:17 pm • 0 0 • view
The point is: Poland is ascening. The UK is declining.
jul 21, 2025, 8:21 pm • 0 0 • view
Not the case. Both are growing, but at Poland's present growth rate of 2-3% assuming the UK didn't grow at all it would be another 25 years before Poland's economy is anything like the size of the UK, and keeping growing at 2-3% a year for 25 years is pretty hard 🙂
jul 21, 2025, 8:46 pm • 0 0 • view
It's not that we aren't saying it out loud, it's just that Labour refuse to listen.
jul 21, 2025, 3:51 pm • 0 0 • view
A landslide victory gave Labour a unique opportunity . With the economy in such a dreadful state the PM & Chancellor had the chance to rejoin the single market .
jul 29, 2025, 7:46 am • 0 0 • view
Most people oppose growth per se, so why would they want a growth strategy? A country of nimbys that opposes motorways, houses and HS2 does not want growth.
jul 29, 2025, 7:15 am • 0 0 • view
Sooner or later the proper “what do we do about Brexit?” conversation will have to start, in the public domain that is, not behind the closed doors of power.
jul 20, 2025, 12:55 pm • 5 1 • view
They are afraid.
jul 20, 2025, 12:46 pm • 2 0 • view
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jul 20, 2025, 5:40 pm • 2 0 • view
My parents defeated fascism on the battlefields of Europe only to be betrayed by the corporations and their political stooges.
jul 21, 2025, 11:52 am • 0 0 • view
My grandparents did, too. My grandfather was all for the EU. We haven't had a war in Europe since, have we? Are you a brexiter?
jul 21, 2025, 1:42 pm • 1 0 • view
If our parents had dealt with the fascists hiding in the boardrooms of the banks and corporations - the very people who founded the original EEC, we wouldn't have had any wars period .
jul 21, 2025, 1:46 pm • 0 0 • view
That doesn't matter. The EU has prevented another war in Europe, so far. If the real fascists get in and break it up, it'll be our kids sent as bullet fodder. Brexit was a massive mistake, and if you disagree, you're wrong, no matter what lame excuse you come up with.
jul 21, 2025, 1:52 pm • 1 0 • view
Real fascists founded it - it's the Fourth Reich in all but name Check out the uniforms FFS
jul 21, 2025, 2:46 pm • 0 0 • view
It's bewildering that Labour, under McSweeney's leadership, is so determined to destroy the economy with Brexit red lines and anti-business policies. Inevitably Farage will ruthlessly exploit a recession on his march to No. 10. Why does nobody in Labour see the risk?
jul 20, 2025, 9:15 pm • 1 0 • view
jul 20, 2025, 6:59 pm • 1 0 • view
What would Nigel Farage do?
jul 20, 2025, 5:41 pm • 0 0 • view