Idk why libs are getting so mad at people for saying they don’t like Gavin newsom. You want to win, right??? So why would you nominate someone you have to yell at people to vote for??
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Because the not terminally online left might see and like his aggressive response to Trump enough to win the primary. A lot of us are worried that if that happens there will be enough people who feel that a sense of smug moral superiority is more important than defeating Republicans.
aug 23, 2025, 6:06 pm • 2 0 • view
You're online too lmao.
aug 23, 2025, 7:08 pm • 4 0 • view
I know. That was part of my point.
aug 23, 2025, 7:17 pm • 0 0 • view
if the online left is so marginal that newsom could win the nomination without them, how is it the fault of their "smug moral superiority" if he loses to trump?
aug 23, 2025, 6:07 pm • 31 0 • view
An aggressive response would be actually supporting the people Trump seeks to oppress, not making slop memes for slop eaters
aug 23, 2025, 7:15 pm • 6 0 • view
It's not the non-online left creaming their undies over him posting dogshit memes, pal. That's the cringe centrist dork collective.
aug 23, 2025, 6:14 pm • 8 0 • view
It's not smug superiority that makes people believe (and act on the belief) that trans people are human.
aug 23, 2025, 7:09 pm • 10 0 • view
Because they DON'T want to win
aug 23, 2025, 7:25 pm • 1 0 • view
Libs stop ramming dogshit candidates through and losing challenge
aug 24, 2025, 1:30 am • 2 0 • view
👆
aug 23, 2025, 8:45 pm • 0 0 • view
Well, Newsom has power in the Democratic Party. As we know, the party controls who gets the nomination. I think this is mostly subconscious, but ppl are nervous that the nom is gonna go to someone that people are already saying they won’t vote for. Once again, the system has fighting each other
aug 23, 2025, 3:57 pm • 2 0 • view
Has us**
aug 23, 2025, 3:57 pm • 1 0 • view
“The party” fought Mamdani, and lost. It doesn’t know where “its voters” are. So… they can learn, or continue to lose to candidates solidly left of them, where voters are and have been. As fun as a Newsom/Cheney dance number at the DNC would be, pushing fracking and police spending again.
aug 23, 2025, 4:33 pm • 17 0 • view
Yes, that’s good, can it be repeated at the national level? Those are different committees
aug 23, 2025, 4:38 pm • 2 0 • view
I’d imagine not, but feels like a good indicator of which direction they should be moving generally. Corrupt name recognition wasn’t it in New York. I suspect starting the identity seeking process with attacking civil rights of a minority group is similarly fated. I hope it is, actually.
aug 23, 2025, 4:43 pm • 2 0 • view
Like, who is this message for? If you’re Newsom. Is this a reach across the political spectrum to bigots who can’t ignore $4 gas, while being told it’s only $1.98? Get the single issue terfs who didn’t oppose fascism because it was attacking trans people? As a starting point?
aug 23, 2025, 4:46 pm • 4 0 • view
Just seems like political malpractice. To a degree of causing very real harm to a lot of people.
aug 23, 2025, 4:47 pm • 2 0 • view
I agree
aug 23, 2025, 4:47 pm • 0 0 • view
Bernie and AOC are the two most popular politicians in America according to favorability
aug 23, 2025, 7:17 pm • 2 0 • view
Also good—
aug 23, 2025, 7:46 pm • 0 0 • view
It’s not over.
aug 23, 2025, 10:11 pm • 0 0 • view
Sorta? They lost their primary to him, regardless of outcome from here.
aug 23, 2025, 10:47 pm • 0 0 • view
What matters is who wins general elections and holds office
aug 23, 2025, 10:49 pm • 0 0 • view
Sure. Absolutely. Their voters want Mamdani. Who is Cuomo courting? Because I suspect that isn’t the core of a counter-argument to “dem voters want Mamdani styled candidates.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Ne... Can’t imagine it’s “let’s piss off 43% in the name of appeasing 36%”
aug 23, 2025, 10:54 pm • 0 0 • view
Most "libs" don't want him as POTUS either. We just think energies should be focused on the midterms, because those will determine whether there's even a chance at a meaningful 2028 election. In the meantime, if Newsom can bring trump closer to a coronary, good for him.
aug 23, 2025, 8:43 pm • 3 0 • view
It’s all they know.
aug 23, 2025, 10:10 pm • 0 0 • view
Who the fuck said anything about electing him? He's doing a magnificent job trolling that cancerous cretin. Period.
aug 23, 2025, 9:48 pm • 5 0 • view
It's worked flawlessly every time before!
aug 23, 2025, 5:57 pm • 26 0 • view
Yep! Progressives (and marginalized groups) are perpetually in a state of being expected to take one for the libs and being blamed when things don't work out for the libs.
aug 23, 2025, 8:43 pm • 12 0 • view
Currently I would be called a lib by other "Democrats". In the 90's I would have been considered a "centrist". I like Newsom, the biggest problem with most Democrats is they do nothing even when they have the majority. I like Newsom being proactive. BTW - Current democrats are like GOP in the 90's
aug 23, 2025, 6:03 pm • 1 0 • view
Cool bro.
aug 23, 2025, 7:10 pm • 2 0 • view
He's certainly being proactive about ratfucking trans people
aug 23, 2025, 6:15 pm • 14 0 • view
Oh, don’t worry, I feel like calling you much worse things than “lib”
aug 24, 2025, 12:05 am • 0 0 • view
Stop making sense, Becca.
aug 23, 2025, 8:43 pm • 2 0 • view
because otherwise he'll lose because you won't vote for him 🙃 now come partake in the huffing of leaded gasoline
aug 23, 2025, 9:44 pm • 1 0 • view
it's always the gen x-ers
aug 23, 2025, 9:45 pm • 6 0 • view
As a Gen-Xer…yeah. I’m not even sure our organs are worth harvesting, I’m not even sure you could bury us anywhere without poisoning the ground. Put us in oil drums and seal us in cement
aug 24, 2025, 12:30 am • 0 0 • view
I don’t know why progressives and Bernie Bros can’t figure out that giving him credit for re-districting California is not a presidential endorsement.
aug 23, 2025, 11:00 pm • 0 0 • view
We support his redistricting efforts. We just don't support his transphobia and neoliberalism.
aug 24, 2025, 12:15 am • 5 0 • view
ok trumper
aug 23, 2025, 9:12 pm • 0 0 • view
can you answer the question
aug 23, 2025, 9:32 pm • 4 0 • view
ok trumper
aug 23, 2025, 10:55 pm • 0 0 • view
What is he nominated for? We are trying to combat Trump, Trumpism, fascism, or whatever this is. He's helping. He's taking the death threats because that's how maga operates. I support anyone who's fighting. My question is, why don't you?
aug 24, 2025, 4:52 am • 0 0 • view
Because A) He hates the homeless and B) He's aligned with Charlie Kirk on being a transphobe Does this not come up as a major problem for you?
aug 24, 2025, 4:56 am • 0 0 • view
Hard agree but for now, please carry on, Newsom. Give me five more seats!!
aug 23, 2025, 7:36 pm • 1 0 • view
aug 23, 2025, 9:32 pm • 2 1 • view
How joyous, trans people get to be under the bus.
aug 23, 2025, 11:12 pm • 6 0 • view
Grrrrr! Why can’t they just let people live in peace.
aug 24, 2025, 12:14 am • 1 0 • view
I see Newsom out there doing something at some risk to himself. I don't see you. Perhaps your high horse is just too tall for me to see you.
aug 23, 2025, 9:36 pm • 2 0 • view
all im saying is that people gotta stop pushing him as the future of the democrats. i think the gerrymandering is cool
aug 23, 2025, 9:39 pm • 6 0 • view
186.5 million registered US voters. 36M GOP. 45 M Dems. 32M unaffiliated. How does one party control the whole government? They cheat, they lie, they steal. If all dems voted the repugs would be out on their ass.
aug 23, 2025, 9:47 pm • 0 0 • view
It's way to early to start the nomination process. Get in the game, we'll work it out later.
aug 23, 2025, 9:41 pm • 0 0 • view
What fucking risk? Seriously, what risk? Because he's not gonna lose his house, or be imprisoned, or deported for anything he's done or is doing. Be so for real right now.
aug 24, 2025, 4:59 am • 0 0 • view
Who said we wanted to nominate him? Because we repost his Trump trolling posts doesn’t mean we want him to be president. Projection much?
aug 23, 2025, 10:36 pm • 2 0 • view
I want to nominate you for being forced to wear a muzzle at all times so no one has to hear your thoughts
aug 23, 2025, 10:46 pm • 5 0 • view
Because minorities are, and have always been, only tools for them; so much so that they can't imagine functioning otherwise.
aug 23, 2025, 9:24 pm • 2 0 • view
Why even discuss this now? The focus is getting control of the house again. Forget the presidential purity tests until after the midterms because otherwise there will be no election in 2028.
aug 23, 2025, 8:53 pm • 2 0 • view
Maybe this should be argued about if he actually runs in three years.
aug 23, 2025, 5:04 pm • 6 0 • view
The Sensible Centrists have already decided he's their guy and everyone who doesn't like him is a traitor.
aug 23, 2025, 5:52 pm • 29 0 • view
Meh I could care less what they think. I’ve voted for him twice as governor but he gives me pause as a presidential candidate but that’s in 3 years. Enough of the circular firing squad.
aug 23, 2025, 6:08 pm • 4 0 • view
giving him a 3 year advance notice to stop being a shithead is more than enough time for the centrists to get the message
aug 23, 2025, 7:19 pm • 9 0 • view
It doesn't even matter to me if he stops doing shitty things. He's already done shitty things, he's told us who he is. Abstaining from being terrible due to polling is not a virtue
aug 23, 2025, 7:49 pm • 6 0 • view
If he runs in 3 years, express this argument because he should be scrutinized.
aug 23, 2025, 7:52 pm • 0 0 • view
Why cant it be expressed now? What is the benefit of being like "well i really hate this guy now but let me wait until hes an imminent problem to say anything about it"
aug 23, 2025, 8:07 pm • 3 0 • view
It’s a waste of energy. No one is running for the ‘28 presidential yet.
aug 23, 2025, 8:09 pm • 1 0 • view
Which is why we should sink this arsehole before he has the chance to run in thr primary.
aug 23, 2025, 8:16 pm • 2 0 • view
Exactly its not like politics are "out of season" or whatever. Maybe im being conspiratorial but its pretty clear to me that Gavin wants to position himself as the figurehead of the Democratic party ahead of the next midterms. He doesnt have to run for president to have an impact on the party
aug 23, 2025, 8:19 pm • 2 0 • view
My hope is that Newsom never does and im not gonna sit around "preserving my energy" while I wait for the rest of the world to make up its mind first
aug 23, 2025, 8:16 pm • 1 0 • view
He is running his campaign for years now. He will actually run if it's not abundantly clear that people don't want his Nazi-adjacent, homeless- and trans-people-hating ass anywhere near the federal government.
aug 23, 2025, 11:56 pm • 2 0 • view
If he runs, I don’t even think he’d win the CA primary honestly. I’m pretty sure he’s who Pelosi was pushing to replace Biden last year.
aug 23, 2025, 11:59 pm • 0 0 • view
Cool thanks for telling me how to use my energy. I've heard your idea, fuck off now
aug 23, 2025, 8:14 pm • 0 0 • view
Do you honestly believe that? They started looking for a candidate on November 6.
aug 23, 2025, 9:15 pm • 4 0 • view
What do you mean by "circular firing squad?"
aug 23, 2025, 9:13 pm • 0 0 • view
They don't get that Newsom is as much of an enemy as any other maga
aug 23, 2025, 9:26 pm • 8 0 • view
It’s amazing to me how shallow so many liberals are. They see a recognizable name do something and they turn into sycophants
aug 23, 2025, 7:03 pm • 19 0 • view
Who cares that he's anti-trans! He's posting funny memes!
aug 23, 2025, 7:49 pm • 11 0 • view
I don’t like Newsom supporters because of their rabid transphobia. But I truly hate them because they think those dogshit AI abortions are actually worth posting
aug 24, 2025, 12:09 am • 5 0 • view
Among the 10 other reasons he shouldn’t be the candidate. He’s status quo politics when we need so much more. A vote for him is a failure to recognize how we got here. And That’s all before the transphobia which is of course a non-starter
aug 24, 2025, 3:08 am • 4 0 • view
He is useful for making republicans mad and focusing their attention away from the good candidates doing important work. Thats it. I’m never voting for him. I hope us dems use him and then throw him away just like he did to trans and homeless people.
aug 24, 2025, 7:46 am • 2 0 • view
Idk why terminally online lefties can’t spend even a fraction of their energy opposing and attacking Republicans the way they do Dems. Really curious
aug 24, 2025, 4:53 pm • 0 0 • view
He's an example. Some of those things, like fighting back, are good. Most of the rest are not. We need to learn from him and use him for what we can, because he would certainly do the same to everyone else.
aug 23, 2025, 10:07 pm • 1 0 • view
it's a long way to 2028. PUll your undies out of your crack
aug 23, 2025, 10:01 pm • 1 0 • view
Keep your fantasies to yourself
aug 24, 2025, 12:31 am • 0 0 • view
No one is nominating anyone...it's 2025.
aug 23, 2025, 9:14 pm • 4 0 • view
ABC. Always Be Campaigning.
aug 23, 2025, 9:28 pm • 0 0 • view
Also… people who are starting these arguments between liberals… are dividing our party and distracting us from fighting the fascist in the WH. Which is something a trump troll would be paid to do … so stop it.
aug 23, 2025, 10:17 pm • 1 0 • view
Notice how much Newsom has brought up Epstein? No. Because he hasn’t. Newsom is controlled opposition, and you’re a fucking mark.
aug 24, 2025, 12:32 am • 2 0 • view
I’m not a mark, shut up .
aug 24, 2025, 4:03 am • 0 0 • view
Like or not like … it’s your choice. It’s not about that … it’s about DOING SOMETHING TO STOP THE FASCISTS RIGHT NOW!!! Newsom is DOING something RIGHT NOW. We are not talking about electing him president ! That’s 31/2 yrs away! There is plenty of time for that and hopefully, other candidates.
aug 23, 2025, 10:14 pm • 2 0 • view
Like I sincerely think you fake leftists might be just as stupid as the neo-liberals or MAGA vermin. Yall can't seem to critically think beyond the circle jerk and it's really getting difficult to give a fuck about your childish bullshit. And it's even more infuriating because you aren't wrong
aug 24, 2025, 4:41 am • 0 0 • view
He shouldn't be the candidate. But that's a convo for years from now. So just shut the fuck up and let him piss off the mango traitor and spend your time doing something useful like learning to use a gun.
aug 24, 2025, 4:41 am • 2 0 • view
Probably because we haven't even had the midterms yet and he's literally the only person doing fuck all from this failure of a party so we should let him do his thing in hopes he draws enough fire to embolden a GOOD person to stick their neck out next. The fact yall don't get that yet is enraging.
aug 24, 2025, 4:39 am • 1 0 • view
gavin newsom is the chatgpt of politicians because a handful of weirdos keep yelling about how good he is, even though he isn’t
aug 23, 2025, 10:09 pm • 11 1 • view