Listen. I’m the minority in a red state. I face the consequences of actions taken by republicans every damn day. What do i do about it? I constantly remind republicans what shitty ppl they are and exactly what they voted for. I’m not gonna lay down and cry over it. How’s that working out 4 ya?
Baby, I lived in South Carolina for the past five years. You don't win this one. Let me remind you, that you argued in this thread against paying farm workers a decent wage. And buddy, they aren't the voters you are angry at.
Show me where I supported not paying migrants a decent wage wage. Ur just lying now
5 years. Wow. I lived in Texas for 48 years from the Dixiecrats til maga. These ppl whole heartedly voted for a felon/rapist potus, criminal adulterous AG, and numerous pedo child molesters- and supported putting the 10 commandments in our public schools to put the fear of god in gay and trans ppl.
Hurting vulnerable people, many who cannot vote, to hit back at Republicans is not a policy most Democrats agree with. Thankfully..
I’m a minority in a red state. I’m vulnerable. I’m a victim of trump policies. Would u like me to sit back and cry? Or hold trump voters responsible for their actions?
Ok. Let's take a step back. How do you want to hold Trump voters accountable?
I told u already. Remind them what they voted for!
Sorry, I don't know if I understand this related to what you posted
Ur not listening. Ur talking but not listening. Listen to what dems in deep red southern states are saying and learn from them. Ur telling us what our experiences and expectations should be. Ur not listening
Ok. I'm going to let this end here. I'm clearly not getting it and you don't owe me your time trying to explain it to me..
Agreed. Thank u
Why are you so aggro at folks on your side? This thread started as a request to leftists to start framing these discussions with seeing immigrants as humans first. I spend every second worried about my family cuz ICE. The split in the thread ignores victims. As Dems in red states aren’t unique.
Bc so many progressives are just fucking clueless with their god damn purity tests and holier than thou attitude. It all boils down to 2016 when HRC didn’t earn the vote!
I’m a progressive and like many progressives, I voted for Harris. There are progressive media outlets like Majority Report, like Cool Zone, like Some More News, and so onnnnn who encouraged progressives to vote for Harris because we rather deal with Dems, but what did CNN and NYT do for y’all? 1/3
Did u vote for HRC
This convo didn’t start about that, tho. Y’all’s eagerness to be mean is unhelpful when directed at allies. I went out of my way to talk over reactive Dems to try and encourage new young and old non-voters to vote to mitigate harm, but then Dems chased their loss by platforming transphobia. 2/3
Who’s being mean. Ur just not listening
3/3 Y’all’s cynicism to appeal to Republicans even as you laugh at their misery is odd. Your ability to not know the main difference between you and progressives is what we think actually works is a problem you rather aggravate. Dems lost swing voters, not cuz of progressives. Did CNN help?NYT?
Why would I care about Briahna Joy Gray you goof? Do you think we iconize famous or infamous progressives/leftists? Sometimes it feels that’s where a lot of these out of pocket grievances come from. Here’s something, RBG sat on that seat till she died. Coefficient of the US was 43% in 2024. 1/2
Trump wouldn’t be potus without progressives who voted not Hillary bc HRC didn’t earn their vote. That’s what it all boils down to. Where were u
Are you a fan of history? Do you know what de jure and de facto racism mean? Like, what is your lvl here. I voted for Clinton. You know who didn’t, swing voters? Wanna know what happens when people think the economy is bad? They either sit out the vote or vote out the incumbent. 1/3
The bail out hindered Obama and galvanized anti-establishment rhetoric. Libertarians voted for Bernie alongside some Dems and Progressives. With Bernie out Libertarians either sat out or voted Trump. Progressives majorly still voted esp in areas where BLM thrived. 2/3
2/2 NYT and CNN weren’t easy on Biden. Like I mean… if you want to really see progressives, watch what we choose to critique and focus on vs what NYT and CNN did, and I ask you, what do you think the public said was the reason for their vote? Are you ready to pause and stop assuming?
I’m not assuming anything. Ur not listening. Ur telling me- a minority in a deep red state and a victim Of trumps and TX republican policies- what my experiences should be and what my expectations should be. Just stop. Instead- start listening to dems in deep red states and learning from us.
Born and raised a red state! In a giant blue city! Return to where this convo started. The request is to hold accountable those who deserve it, but not at the cost of those who don’t! To know this! My family and friends are worth knowing live there! We can be specific in our accountability!