Sounds like a corrupt party that chooses its winners instead of letting their voters choose. Them doing it for forever isnt a win lol
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Um, no. Party nominating processes changed for 1972 do nearly all nominating delegates were picked by voters and since then every nominee was the choice of the majority of primary VOTERS. Clinton beat Sanders by 12 points among voters nationally. That’s a landslide.
aug 10, 2025, 5:43 pm • 0 0 • view
That is, since the McGovern-Fraser reforms and processes since.
aug 10, 2025, 5:45 pm • 0 0 • view
I have a question. If we're trying get rid of the electoral college which is being abused in winner-take-all schemes, and the "delegate" system is an antiquated piece of history like the college is, why not just make it easier with a popular vote? In both cases? (talking ideals, not practicality)
aug 10, 2025, 5:57 pm • 2 0 • view
Democrats don’t use winner take all in any presidential delegate selection. Republicans do in some states.
aug 10, 2025, 6:56 pm • 0 0 • view
I know, they cheat. I'm just wondering your thoughts on going toward a popular vote style system rather than a system of sending people on horseback to a delegation to vote. Broadly.
aug 10, 2025, 6:59 pm • 1 0 • view
Duse, winner take all for primaries/caucuses helps whoever is best known at the start of the process and hurts insurgent candidates. Why would you think it’s better?
aug 10, 2025, 7:36 pm • 0 0 • view
And why would you think winner take all is “cheating” compared to the rules Dems use that award delegates from primaries/caucuses proportionally as long as the candidate got over the threshold?
aug 10, 2025, 7:38 pm • 0 0 • view
Republicans’ use of winner take all highly advantaged Trump and hurt his challengers. Did you know that?
aug 10, 2025, 7:40 pm • 0 0 • view
I don't think it's better. I'm asking why we wouldn't want to use a popular vote system rather than a delegate or electoral college system. I DISLIKE winner takes all systems, it's undemocratic and it's cheating.
aug 10, 2025, 7:39 pm • 1 0 • view
How would your popular vote system work exactly, and why do you think winner take all is cheating?
aug 10, 2025, 7:42 pm • 0 0 • view
Winner takes all is cheating, to me, because it robs the minority vote of its representation. Because all electoral college votes are tallied at the end and that total is used to determine the winner. Popular vote system would just eliminate redundancy and increase trust and transparency.
aug 10, 2025, 7:51 pm • 2 0 • view
So you don’t want any party nominating conventions?
aug 10, 2025, 7:41 pm • 0 0 • view
And what does the electoral college have to do with presidential nominations? (Nothing.)
aug 10, 2025, 7:49 pm • 0 0 • view
It doesn't. I compared the two because they're both antiquated in a similar way, in a time where it may have been necessary because we don't have near instant communications, hence my reference to horseback.
aug 10, 2025, 7:54 pm • 0 0 • view
I don't think it's that simple but I do think it raises questions, hence they improved by making changes. I just hope there isn't a repeat. They aren't legally required to uphold their own rules because the partisan apparatus are private corps in both RNC and DNC. Is our pressure enough? We'll see.
aug 10, 2025, 5:39 pm • 0 0 • view