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Chaplain John @chaplainjohn.medsky.social

...not a failure, nor giving up, but accepting the agency they have and the limitations of a human body. That is the unique role of a chaplain, which is the extra step to all the other death you have been present for. We keep the silence and help people accept death, even fight for a good death.

jul 23, 2025, 3:22 am • 2 0

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Chris @farrarc0.bsky.social

I hear them, but they've missed my point. I'm not talking about what board certified chaplains do. I'm not one of those and I'm not going to be. I'm talking specifically about how we train future priests. I think where I'm at is we should train future priests and future chaplains differently.

jul 23, 2025, 3:26 am • 0 0 • view
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Chaplain John @chaplainjohn.medsky.social

You really aren't. In your role as a future priest, you will need to be the person who says the word 'death' and conducts the liturgy to help with the steps beyond a chaplain. Knowing the role of a chaplain would be integral to that work and colleague. No one has mentioned being BCC. We aren't...

jul 23, 2025, 3:30 am • 0 0 • view
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Chaplain John @chaplainjohn.medsky.social

...even in that realm. We are talking about the skills you could be learning through CPE and how your familiarity with death could help your ministry. This journey is yours. What you choose to do with it is up to you. But deflecting won't help, and I hope you take advantage of your opportunity.

jul 23, 2025, 3:30 am • 0 0 • view
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Chris @farrarc0.bsky.social

This actually raises a separate, genuine question of mine - why is disagreement with the institution/zeitgeist always seen as “deflecting,” “resisting,” or some other negative term instead of just a disagreement?

jul 23, 2025, 3:33 am • 0 0 • view
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Chaplain John @chaplainjohn.medsky.social

Why do you assume that you have disagreed with the instution/zeitgeist?

jul 23, 2025, 3:35 am • 0 0 • view
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Chris @farrarc0.bsky.social

Because you just told me I was deflecting

jul 23, 2025, 3:36 am • 0 0 • view
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Chaplain John @chaplainjohn.medsky.social

Right, we were talking about Death, and how important it is to learn how to be there with people grieving in CPE. I addressed that specifically. You deflected and changed the topic to BCC. Where does the institution/zeitgeist come in? bsky.app/profile/farr...

jul 23, 2025, 3:38 am • 0 0 • view
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Chris @farrarc0.bsky.social

I didn’t deflect and change the topic. I was responding to this: bsky.app/profile/chap...

jul 23, 2025, 3:39 am • 0 0 • view
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Chaplain John @chaplainjohn.medsky.social

No, you were responding to this: bsky.app/profile/chap...

jul 23, 2025, 3:41 am • 0 0 • view
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Chaplain John @chaplainjohn.medsky.social

That skeet was not from this thread, and changed the topic from the genuine conversation about death you had brought up. The reason it was deflection is not because I am part of an institution or zeitgeist, but because we keep getting close to the heart of this matter when every time you redefine.

jul 23, 2025, 3:44 am • 0 0 • view