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Espen Gisvold @espengis.bsky.social

We pay less than the average household in the UK and we use 15918.72 kWh a year. This chart is based on 3000 kWh a year! I can't understand which households can manage to use as little as that in a year, and for sure not in Norway!

aug 28, 2025, 9:18 am • 0 0

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MaxSntsF @maxsntsf.bsky.social

I was thinking the same, who manages with 3000kWh? How is this representative?

aug 28, 2025, 9:27 am • 0 0 • view
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Lucy @hi-lucy.bsky.social

I think it's just selected to use as a simplified comparison between countries. High usage customers often get different rates etc, so I'd speculate it was picked to avoid that.

aug 28, 2025, 9:34 am • 0 0 • view
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MaxSntsF @maxsntsf.bsky.social

But if it's not representative it does now reflect the difference in rates. Probably should have just gone with average price per kW

aug 28, 2025, 9:43 am • 1 0 • view
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Lucy @hi-lucy.bsky.social

Possibly. But again rates aren't constant. How do you account for smart tariffs, off peak usage patterns etc. So I guess they have gone for average cost 8kwh odd a day for cooking, lights and a TV isn't unreasonable If you are heating your house/water, charging a car etc... then less so.

aug 28, 2025, 9:57 am • 0 0 • view
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MaxSntsF @maxsntsf.bsky.social

I think bellow the chart is the one that they should have screenshots: "Price per kWh", but that has less impact on people. Monthly bill is also not a good indication because there are other fees (different by country) in there not just the energy cost. Maybe I'm wrong

aug 28, 2025, 10:02 am • 0 0 • view
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MaxSntsF @maxsntsf.bsky.social

Also, comparing a monetary value spent without taking in consideration wages does not show the reality. I'm pretty sure Portugal would jump to the top of the list if the chat showed a ratio between energy cost and median income

aug 28, 2025, 10:06 am • 0 0 • view
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Lucy @hi-lucy.bsky.social

I mean sure, but also I'm okay with the UK being blatantly the worst on the graph as they might feel they have to do something about it....

aug 28, 2025, 10:08 am • 0 0 • view
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Lucy @hi-lucy.bsky.social

I'm on the simple tariff of 15p per kWh export, 7p overnight rate and a 29p day rate... How would you capture that in a chart about household energy costs? ... And the octopus fex tariff I think the rate changes every 30 minutes... With no cap :/ You have to simplify somewhere.

aug 28, 2025, 10:17 am • 0 0 • view
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MaxSntsF @maxsntsf.bsky.social

Sure, but i cannot accept a comparison between countries that does not include income. Your minimum wage is around 2100 pounds ours is 700! 3x difference but your cost in energy seems to not even be double of what we pay. The chart would be a lot different if it compared % of income spent on energy

aug 28, 2025, 10:28 am • 0 0 • view
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MaxSntsF @maxsntsf.bsky.social

Come to think of it, this would be the correct stats: "percentage of income spent on energy"

aug 28, 2025, 10:30 am • 0 0 • view
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Fearless! @fearless1957.bsky.social

UK average consumption stands at 2,700 kWh. The chart appears relevant. www.google.com/search?q=ave...

aug 28, 2025, 9:36 am • 1 0 • view
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Lessa of Pern @lessa31.bsky.social

If it’s anything like Denmark, every household pays a basic delivery fee on top of the electricity itself. When you spread that fixed fee across just 3,000 kWh/year (as in this chart), it makes the cost per unit look much higher. Because the AC is low in UK it results in power being more expensive

aug 28, 2025, 9:47 am • 0 0 • view
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Lucy @hi-lucy.bsky.social

Oof, that implies there are an awful lot of households on gas (and cars on petrol) Once that is phased out, the usage with my finger based assumptions is going to probably triple.

aug 28, 2025, 9:40 am • 2 0 • view