Nope. They are embarrassing themselves, look ridiculous, and need to know it.
Nope. They are embarrassing themselves, look ridiculous, and need to know it.
Trump is using them to literally provoke your exact response. Show respect for the military, unless they fail to support the constitutional oath they all pledged. Until then, it’s all trump and his ass lickers (plural) no one else shares that shame. Certainly not paid act… I mean soldiers
What about this parade do you support?
I don’t support it because of orange not the military. He wants to make believe it’s about the military. Hitler did the same shit. If you go, you support orange Nazis , if you don’t go, you hate the U.S. military. See how that works? They can’t lose, it’s a provocation. Hitler did it first.
They ( the orange lovers) have been following that playbook for a long time. This has all been done before. So. Resist the urge to fall into any pro or con with regards to Bait, which this parade is. always maintain a steady rejection of anything, and everything they do… They can only bait.
Nope that’s not how this works. They have little choice- and please consider this, if they didn’t do as asked, what do you think will happen to these brave people? Direct you ire higher. This is all Trump and hegseth.
they do actually have a choice.
The choice to completely lose their livelihood? Be court martialed, dishonorable discharge? That’s what this regime offers. There is little choice in that situation. Fired over a parade? Save that for the ones in LA. That’s where they need to stand down.
yeah good. if you have principles you will face those consequences and worse. the oath they swear is to the constitution not the president.
Im aware of the oath, having taken it. But I also can understand in this climate the dangers ahead for career military. That’s my only point. Yes I’d love them to protest, but recognize how much they have on the line too.
Your point is that people shouldn't stand together in solidarity because they will lose their job. That is how fascism retains power over a people just like corporate exploitation of low wage earners. "Would you rather stand up for what's right or risk being homeless" is your point.
No, I’m giving consideration for real world issues. I certainly won’t hold them to a higher standard than say our ELECTEDs (whom we pay a hell of a lot more to represent us than soldiers are paid) The problem isn’t the soldiers. The problem is at the top.
I'll agree the greater problem is at the top, but we need to expect solidarity and rage against it when people just go along to get along under fascism.
I’m not negating responsibility, or expectations. I’m just landing on the idea that there are a lot of young men or women (soldiers) caught in a super shitty situation. Who has also been fed a steady diet of Fox News on base 🤷🏼♀️. Would I know how to handle such in my 20’s- idk?! lots in play
as always solidarity is the answer.
Yeah I'm not trying to be rude, I get what you're saying. But nothing negates the cold hard truth that solidarity is the only answer now. And unfortunately in scenarios like this it will inevitably include short term suffering. We are quite literally on the brink of dictatorship in America.
No thanks. I have plenty of “ire” for Trump and Hegseth but the only “power” they have is people willingly go along with their nonsense. When the morale of the military and ICE collapses, Trump just be another senile old man yelling at the TV.
A parade is a parade, although bravery would be making a mockery of it. There is zero respect of sympathy to be had for the ones occupying LA. Just following order is not a defense. Not for ICE and not for the Marines or National Guard.
Yes, that’s a completely different scenario. Following orders for a parade is a stark contrast from following orders and harming humans. It’s a super shitty situation they are put in by the commander in chief. In a normal time, this would not have made it thru the guardrails. But he fired them 😠
👏👏👏👍 support your opinion.
They know it and a majority wouldn't be there if they could avoid it.