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Elbonian @elbonian.bsky.social

I don't know as much about the North as I do the South. In the South, the militia was a permanent entity. Many times, the men in a militia district would vote for their officers. It's true that you had to be a land owner. But you didn't need to be a slave owner. Less than a quarter owned even 1.

aug 30, 2025, 1:18 am • 0 0

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80% snark, 20% reasoned factual discourse @joeyblau.bsky.social

what? even within enlisted men, 50% came from families with slaves. For officers it was probably 75%. Yes, both sides started out voting for officers in volunteer regiments, but that ended when conscription was in force. I know more about the North. scholarscompass.vcu.edu/cgi/viewcont...

aug 30, 2025, 1:27 am • 9 0 • view
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Elbonian @elbonian.bsky.social

Honestly, I didn't think you were close, but I will give you that you are closer than I thought. I measured one township where my ancestors lived. 144 homes. 62 slave owners. 509 slaves. About 760 whites. My ancestors didn't own slaves. But 3 sons fought. One died.

aug 30, 2025, 2:52 am • 2 0 • view
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Elbonian @elbonian.bsky.social

That was 1860. In earlier decades, slave ownership wasn't as common, based on census records I've seen. One ancestor saved for a decade to buy one slave per preserved letters.

aug 30, 2025, 2:56 am • 0 0 • view
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Dan Isaacs (Kelce's Version) @danisaacs.bsky.social

The man in the home that owned the slaves did not live alone. Likely had a wife and 2 or more kids. In your research how many of those 760 whites were from a home that owned slaves?

aug 30, 2025, 3:20 am • 0 0 • view
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Elbonian @elbonian.bsky.social

I looked at the summary numbers at the bottom of the census pages. 144 homes with 760 whites. 62 slave owners in the 144 homes. About 43% of homes had a slave owner so roughly 327 of 760 whites lived in a home with slaves. Just based on math ratio. It's hard to count an exact number.

aug 30, 2025, 2:02 pm • 1 0 • view
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80% snark, 20% reasoned factual discourse @joeyblau.bsky.social

No one on the Union side owned slaves.

aug 30, 2025, 2:54 am • 1 0 • view
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Elbonian @elbonian.bsky.social

That isn't literally true. Think all of West Virginia, for instance. Lincoln was careful to only emancipate enemy slaves. Not friendlies.

aug 30, 2025, 2:58 am • 1 0 • view
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80% snark, 20% reasoned factual discourse @joeyblau.bsky.social

yes I will give you that one. there were "border states." and they all had slaves. Big problem when Gen Fremont liberated them in Missouri. "No not like that!!" I wonder what the same numbers for them were. I guess once we started treating them as contraband that was semi-slavery.

aug 30, 2025, 3:08 am • 4 0 • view
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Elbonian @elbonian.bsky.social

I lived in Kansas for about a decade. There is a big mural of abolitionist John Brown in the state capital. He was executed after the raid on Harper's Ferry.

aug 30, 2025, 2:14 pm • 0 0 • view