I would genuinely like someone to show me evidence of when this strategy has actually been applied. 2016 and 2024 are direct evidence that people failed to do this and, consequently, fascism became normalized. In both cases, blue voters sat out or voted 3rd party.
I’m not sure that’s the fault of voters, to be honest. I blamed them at the time, but these days, I think a democratic party that refuses to advocate for popular ideas or meaningfully improve. The lives of its potential voters is more at fault. That and massive GOP voter suppression tactics
I always hear it’s the fault of the voters, never of the party that gave them nothing worth voting for.
Again, a statement devoid of evidence. Accepting as fact the statement that the Democratic Party offers nothing is to accept a lie as truth. It is a choice to purposefully believe propaganda.
I also find it incredibly coincidental that the largest demographic making this claim also happens to be the smallest voting bloc supporting the Democratic Party.
I’m not commenting on whether they offer *anything*, but the idea that voters are beholden to political parties more than the reverse is bizarre. If people were convinced to vote, they would. Yeah, we need to push people to vote. But the parties should be asking how to win them over.
Hold your politicians accountable. Tell them ‘if you don’t give me something to vote for, then I won’t vote for you.’ If you keep saying ‘well, it’s you or Trump, so you’ve got my vote’ then they’re not going to care what about pushing the progressive policy you want.
This exact sentiment dismisses the imminent threat of Trump and normalizes fascism. This is why "vote blue no matter who" exists. It's simple cause and effect and the people sharing your sentiment failed the test in 2016 and 2024.
Sorry, but I disagree. I think ‘vote blue no matter who’ normalises a government with no accountability to the people who elected them and creates the fertile ground from which fascism takes root. There’s a reason we’re seeing it after decades of Reganomics when people have never been poorer.
Biden's signature piece of legislation was aimed directly at the working class and he was the most pro-union President in decades and he was repaid by the working class moving to the right. "Blue no matter who" is an argument that a majority of voters understand.
I don’t care if he had some good policies, that’s not relevant. If people didn’t vote for them, it’s not the voters’ fault it’s theirs. They need to appeal to the electorate and they didn’t. But, by all means, learn nothing and keep waiting for ‘better voters’. I’m sure that’ll move mountains.
Like, the idea that the Democrats lost and the right response is ‘gee, guess the voters are bad’ and not in any way evaluate the many failures of the Democrats - failures we can learn from and do better going forward - isn’t realistic or helpful.
It might be worth reflecting on how Biden literally ran on "vote me or fascism wins." We did, he had 4 years in office, did NOTHING to address fascism, and now it's even worse than the first time around. This what a lack of accountability results in.
Yeah, it was a four year hiatus when it stopped getting worse. It’s not unreasonable to ask for things to get better between the periods of things getting worse, and it’s okay to go ‘hey, things have been getting worse for decades - we just had some breaks in between.’
The Overton window and all that. Republicans may be evil fascist fucks, but at least they’re very honest about their goals of harming people they dislike and making their rich donors welfare. And then they actually do that.
But like, not voting or voting Red isn't the solution, obviously. We need better options. We need more AOCs and Madame's. We demand so very little of our electeds.
Remember when the biggest voter turnout in HISTORY happened because Obama ran on actually doing things? His failure to be more than just another status-quo moderate is, IMO, what kicked off a lot of the disillusionment with the Democratic party.
Like, it's just a fact: when politicians run on actually DOING GOOD THINGS, people fucking show up and they win.
I’m British - Corbyn won more votes on an *incredibly* progressive platform and came close. Then he was destroyed in the press with manufactured outrage. His ‘centrist’ replacement won the most recent election with dramatically fewer votes, the opposition just shot the bed. Good policy gets votes.
As a voter who votes Blue every time: the party offers nothing except maintaining of the status quo and the promise of "hey at least we're not fascists." It's not propaganda. It's my lived experience with the party I actively vote for because the alternative is worse.