Michael, ive worked on dem campaigns including Obama Hillary and Biden’s. Consistently when we call or knock on dem voters who don’t turn out it’s because the Dems suck and don’t do enough. Most people don’t even know who Jill stein is

Thank you for your contributions. You’re right, normies don’t know who she is. But leftists who do nothing but snipe at Dems all day feed into an ecosystem of information that normies get bits and pieces of. My anger isn’t just at self proclaimed leftists, I have many social democratic philosophies

But it’s with everyone and everything that led to the distortion of reality that got us here

You get sniped because your politicians are terrible Temu knock offs of Republicans.

The fact you’re using the word normies shows that you’re just a weirdo online who doesn’t talk to voters. I am telling you, as someone who has done this, it is not the left that is depressing voters. It is decades of Dems making things worse for people along with their Republican colleagues

I am online a lot but I am surrounded by median voters. I do talk to them a lot. My fiance is one, though we didn’t date around the election we speak about it a lot. I hear how my clients talk, I live in one of the reddest parts of the country, and I know how they think. The problem is the narrative

Has been lost. They have a fictional reality they perceive. My fiancé voted for Obama twice and then Trump in ‘24 because of prices and she got a bad vibe from Harris, though she couldn’t tell me one policy she didn’t like. She regrets that decision horribly. She hates the news and politics

And then there is the tribal influence. Her family and friends all pressured her to vote this way because they lied. And she hated Trump before but didn’t know any of the dark details. She is a median voter through and through. She is 100% a normie that I speak of. And I love her

Uh huh

People don’t vote based on policies. They vote based on vibes. Tough lesson, but it’s true.

I know it’s cognitively easier for you to perceive voters as rational. But they’re not. They don’t think, they feel.

Buddy, it is rational and the vibe to say Dems suck and don’t deliver. Because they don’t deliver and they do suck. They are incredibly unpopular and every poll shows it

Uh huh

Believe what you want, most people online either outright lie or build a fictional version of things and themselves. This is not that case. This is 100% true, and she’s been very eye opening in how she and family think

Uh huh

The narrative wouldn’t be a problem if the Dems actually delivered

Exactly. The narrative is a superficial focus. Wtf do the dems stand for if not the an arms embargo on an active genocide, compliance with international law, UNIVERSAL healthcare and equality including for trans kids, housing, healthcare, jobs for homeless people, safe immigration?

I cannot stress enough that Obama won historically and not a single Dem has run like him since and not a single one has won like him since. It is not the narrative, it is the fact that they did not deliver policies people want.

Obama ran as a center left dem. I’m more left than Obama.

He ran as a progressive left promising change. And then failed to deliver. That’s the entire point. Michale, I worked on his campaign. I’m well aware of who he was and how he ran.