In any state means that state. But as Judge Breyer stated in California, there is no Rebellion!
In any state means that state. But as Judge Breyer stated in California, there is no Rebellion!
What the hell. So even though the court decision today was California the felon still thinks he can act with impunity or this is a way around those pesky laws he does not like.
Crime figures and trends don't meet the smell test here so it's a stretch to say it's about law enforcement.
Except didnt they just lose that argument in California?
No. The California decision today was about how they *used* the military — not whether the guard was properly federalized in the first instance (that’s before the 9th Cir.)
If Pritzker is right though, then yes, they lost the argument. He said the National Guard were going to go out with ICE to arrest people.
The phrase "in any state" doesn't appear in that section.
None of those three conditions apply, of course, but when has that ever stopped him?
Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States. Quite certain Pritzker hadn’t issued the orders.
Yeah they just become the equivalent of federal troops when in Title 10. But the only way to put someone into title 10, consent of home state gov or not, is via that statute that requires some showing that the federal officials have been impeded from executing the law
I do think Quinta is right that it looks like Title 32 is more likely here
Justifying any of this legally is an afterthought to them, mostly because they think they’ll crush anyone who would bring a challenge to the courts. They’re just going to do it on the assumption no one will stop them, and they won’t HAVE to defend its legality.
Wouldn't this be limited to federal laws (of the United States) they aren't enforced by federal "forces", rather than run of the mill state felonies?
F that
Whenever any of three conditions aren’t applicable, you go home
So, I was just listening to Amicus and @dahlialithwick.bsky.social and her guest (Liza Goitein) were discussing this. Goitein was saying, basically, that this can't happen based on the premise.
Shouldn't the governor know this
The Grey House has adopted the Silicon Valley approach used by Uber. Establish your program no matter what the law says, let communities sue, fight in court and in the meantime change reality on the ground. Doesn’t this sound like colonialism? How Western lands were taken. Force, not law!
Our current fascist leader will not follow the law. He will not follow the constitution. Do not expect any different. The only options we have right now to stop the bullshit is to either vote out all republicans in future elections. Or to start a revolution. Pick one…
How about we call them what they are: Confederate forces.
More context from someone much smarter than me bsky.app/profile/stev...
Though, now I'm seeing the federal statue about enforcing the laws. That suggests that they are going to go super broad and SCOTUS will eventually let them do it after they've been terrorizing Chicago for months. This system is so broken.
@dahlialithwick.bsky.social Time to fight fire with FIRE 🔥🔥🔥 bsky.app/profile/sane...
How? States don't send tax money to DC. Employers send it directly.
Watch the video :) I'm Canadian, just sharing something that sounds like a good idea. Don't know much else :)
He makes the same mistake (and he's not alone). Blue states have no effective way to stop their money from going to the federal government.
😢
As soon as a judge declares it to be illegal, the national guard should not follow illegal orders. They shouldn’t become traitors to our country and constitution.
ugh
We're left to scrutinize which the sitting POTUS is using to deploy NG troops to the streets of US cities as if it's just a thing that one does now.
I’m out of my depth, but that last part — acting through the governor — doesn’t seem to automatically confer new authorities on that governor to command his/her NG to enter and take action in another state without the latter’s consent is this a reasonable reading?
So this statute would be what Trump would likely use to federalize a guard that was under state control (as he did in CA). Once federalized, they are basically federal troops—not state troops under command of Governor. So if 12406, state sovereignty issue not at play.
The language about issuing order through governors is just a procedural/ministerial requirement the president has to follow in order to federalize the guard. 9th Cir. interpreted it to be a pretty minimal — doesn’t give governors veto power over federalization
1) California should change its law so that the Adjutant General does not act as the governor's agent in such situations – ie, it must be the governor, personally. As to then what happens if the governor refuses... 🍿 (caveat: That was shot from the hip) 2) I'm waiting to see if Trump nationalizes…
... Illinois' National Guard to keep Pritzker from using them in any way. I've been figuring THAT is something Trump wants to try now to see how the courts might handle it.
thanks for replying and explaining among the triggering conditions, (1) and (2) strike me as very difficult (if not impossible) to sustain as predicates that leaves (3), which is grounded in escalation b/c of POTUS's impotence, whether real or feigned it's crazy but also consistent w/the times