The biggest thing missing from conversations about Democracy is the concept of deliberation. Democracy doesn't truly exist without mechanisms to thoughtfully deliberate. One of the things that makes sortition such a valuable tool is it allows for deliberation with large populations.
There also needs to be consequences— as in voters can see what they voted for. That’s why the filibuster is so dangerous: people vote a majority in but then they are blocked and so voters can’t see if what they voted for works or not.
Social.coop uses it for constituting the electorate for the board/steering committee seats.
A key element is that governance engagement is labor, and it's unrealistic to expect sufficient deliberation without compensation for said governance labor. So a small randomly selected group with a focused scope, compensation for their time, and a defined number of meetings will yield better...
... outcomes that meet organizational and constituent needs than a mass social capital competition
This is an important comment! and you're right: deliberation is missing now. I hope you write more about this -- it calls for an interesting analysis!
Sortition should be used more. But people aren't used to the idea and I think it would take a while for them to get comfortable with it. Not a reason not to try where possible.
Wow, sortition. Don't recall hearing that term used since the days of reading Aristotle for political philosophy class. Your comment about it fostering deliberation with large populations is interesting. How do you see it scaling-up?
Gingrich eliminated the CRS for this reason.
For those asking, "Huh?" I recommend this by @davidmoscrop.com
I think you have discounted the stupidification of America; if there are no wine glasses being thrown around your average American will soon lose interest.
For those without degrees in philosophy or statics please explain how drawing lots helps discission.
Sortition? Can't have a discussion when you use words that 99% of people don't understand.
Actually its quite easy for people to look up terms and not every bluesky post needs immediate accessibility to every single person. Its actually quite condescending to "99% of people" to think that a tweet with one unfamiliar word would be so inaccessible.
Arrogant aren't you.
God the projection on this website is off the charts. bsky.app/profile/oldf...
That's not really the point, is it? Why not make it *more* accessible? You do you, but know that you're likely to turn off some would-be readers.
Why didn't i make a single post a thread? This is a real puzzle to solve. Anyway, "the point" is not for you to define and is a lazy rhetorical move to avoid responding to the points you don't have answers for.
I looked in it up in approx 20 seconds, maybe less, but I asked my 14 yo first if he knew what it meant. He said he should know but couldn’t remember. Turns out he definitely should have known since he did a paper on Greek democracy last year 😬. Thx for teaching me a new word 🤓🥳
This is true. It also evidences my thinking that we should get the Bible’s OUT of schools, and bring back the Classics (to including classical Asian and African) philosophies on society. Society would be exponentially better for it.
#LMGTFY (let me google that for you) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition
All deliberations are rooted in good faith disagreements. When bad faith is allowed to skew the deliberations then the thing (democracy) cannot be accomplished. Sortition may mean you get a bunch of Fox News viewers deliberating from a foundation of bad faith “knowledge”.