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Stephen Fine @stephen-fine.bsky.social

Wow. Good point. I guess since the IDF is in the wrong no one in it suffers trauma.

jul 25, 2025, 11:01 pm • 0 0

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Drew Herzig @drewherzig.bsky.social

If you suffer trauma in being the oppressor, if inflicting trauma traumatizes you, maybe you need to rethink your allegiance.

jul 26, 2025, 1:22 am • 0 0 • view
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Stephen Fine @stephen-fine.bsky.social

Yeah, I’d think so. But it doesn’t negate the trauma.

jul 26, 2025, 1:27 am • 1 0 • view
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Drew Herzig @drewherzig.bsky.social

Self-inflicted trauma doesn't score very highly. Yes, compulsory military service, and yes, there are conscientious objectors. I respect their trauma. But they aren't being shot, mutilated, starved, bombed.

jul 26, 2025, 3:51 am • 1 0 • view
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Stephen Fine @stephen-fine.bsky.social

What about Holocaust survivors? What about descendants of the Jews expelled from Baghdad and Cairo (the largest single demographic group)? You seem fixated on the present day when the topic was communal trauma. Sometimes it’s necessary to make an attempt understand your opponent.

jul 26, 2025, 5:16 am • 2 0 • view
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Stephen Fine @stephen-fine.bsky.social

It’s not just “propaganda”. It’s real. I think that their reaction to the trauma is bad and wrong, but saying that it wasn’t trauma and that they’re all deluded misses what’s actually happening in their heads which is what the OP was trying to do.

jul 26, 2025, 5:18 am • 1 0 • view