But what about the African countries going the opposite direction? Are they not subject to the same influences?
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Particularly S. Africa, which is already prone to resist American influence because of their closer ties to Russia or China, but also because of their mistrust of Western European culture.
sep 3, 2025, 12:26 pm • 0 0 • view
i.e. thinking for themselves which is my point. You are trying to argue that no matter what, positive or negative, African nations can't form their own opinions and beliefs without being essentially puppeteered by some non-African country and I'm trying to push you to examine that thinking.
sep 3, 2025, 12:39 pm • 0 0 • view
So what did Africans think about lgbt people prior to European influence? Examine that. Get back to me.
sep 3, 2025, 3:55 pm • 0 0 • view
Probably, but I’m sure you’ve had these arguments before, not all Africans are an ideological monolith. They’re prone to disagreement amongst each other.
sep 3, 2025, 12:22 pm • 0 0 • view
But that's the point. Africans *are* thinking for themselves on the homosexuality issue too. They aren't just being puppeteered by European powers. There is disagreement between African countries on what should be resisted and what should not be.
sep 3, 2025, 12:27 pm • 0 0 • view
“Thinking” for “themselves” Yeah sure. We could use those words to call it that. But that’s not what it is.
sep 3, 2025, 12:30 pm • 0 0 • view
How do you know?
sep 3, 2025, 12:34 pm • 0 0 • view
You aren't addressing my point but its all good. Appreciate the convo.
sep 3, 2025, 12:35 pm • 0 0 • view
Your point ignores a lot of what I said but I understand you’re focusing more on the African independence side of it which I understand is your feelings. I hate all humans equally because they’re all stupid, I desire better standards for all humanity, because I’m a straight white man, people get mad
sep 3, 2025, 3:58 pm • 0 0 • view
If they’re thinking for themselves with heavy influence from evangelicals, and heavy funding from evangelicals, they’re not thinking for themselves, are they? That’s like saying all American politicians are thinking for themselves on the Israel topic while receiving millions from AIPAC.
sep 3, 2025, 12:29 pm • 0 0 • view
AIPAC is trying to influence *everyone* and its clearly not working which reinforces my point. And my question stands: How can you tell the difference between someone agreeing with what AIPAC is arguing vs them being "influenced" against their will?
sep 3, 2025, 12:34 pm • 0 0 • view
Because money. But you’re deflecting
sep 3, 2025, 3:57 pm • 0 0 • view
Ok so the African countries who are have decided *not* to do that are getting the same influences. What is difference with them? Coincidentally, Evangelicals are spending money to influence you too. Why isn't it working?
sep 3, 2025, 12:32 pm • 0 0 • view
Because I grew up an atheist who doesn’t like how “religious” people don’t follow the commandments or love their neighbors. If we are to be theistic, we must first treat our neighbors with kindness and love and respect, even the gays.
sep 3, 2025, 3:57 pm • 0 0 • view