Ah, well now, what have we here! Signatories added without their knowledge!?! And, crucially, a couple of names behind the writing and publishing of statement/petition- will look into them. With respect (and hope), believing these orgs are equivalent is odd. www.insidehighered.com/news/faculty...
Oh, the writer of the statement / petition- yes, definitely a seasoned genocide scholar, and definitely NOT a political shill. I won’t hear of it!
I proffer this not for its comments on substance, which are debatable, but for its statements re process, toward the end. In the Rush to Vilify Israel, Genocide Scholars Ignore the Truth | AJC share.google/1dR5Gd3NmoBh...
'Every civilian death in this war is a tragedy, but the data cited in the IAGS resolution not only fails to differentiate between civilians and combatants, but also relies entirely on Hamas-produced statistics.' www.theguardian.com/world/ng-int...
www.vice.com/en/article/i...
Listen, I love this game of “throw another bone before consuming the current one”, but can we conclude the current, before starting on the next?
Sure. I thought I was responding to a completed presentation. In any event, for my money we can stop the whole "whose experts are more compelling" shtik, because (as I *think* we've agreed) what matters is the conduct, not what it's labeled.
Hey, listen, Im only responding to your pov which was, effectively, and please correct me if I’m wrong, “the Times Of Israel article has provided me with compelling evidence to undermine the integrity of the IAGS.” My hope is to show you that the evidence comes from a v v bad place (in love/ hope)
We have, imho, been fencing over a side issue. I said, as an aside, that neither the IAGS statement nor the UN statement--which you proferred on the basis of wondering whether they and other developments had changed my perspective--had induced me to label Israel's conduct "genocide". cont'd
My point, as I've made clear, is that applying a disputed label to the conduct had no impact on *my* labeling the conduct wrongful, even criminal--which I do. Arguing over whether the conduct is also technically "genocide" (as opposed, say, to "war crimes" or "crimes against humanity") wastes time.
Got it! I suspect it is important for how people are held accountable, both by history, and by the law. Also, important for me (for reasons I can fully explain) that your original assessment based on Times of Israel is debunked. I’ll stop now. Thank-you.