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cara ara~ @hyperfekt.net

i keep feeling like i somehow developed the only framework of ethics that works great in practice and seamlessly integrates non-human consciousness. everyone else seems to have to ask themselves big questions while i just shrug my shoulders without any distress whatsoever

aug 27, 2025, 7:53 am • 3 0

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SE Gyges @segyges.bsky.social

you guys have ethical frameworks?

aug 27, 2025, 7:54 am • 3 0 • view
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cara ara~ @hyperfekt.net

utility monsters aren't real if you don't have arbitrary rules that assign value to individual subjects

aug 27, 2025, 7:55 am • 3 0 • view
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Leftover woman @rosactrl.bsky.social

Wait so what is it?

aug 27, 2025, 9:36 am • 2 0 • view
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cara ara~ @hyperfekt.net

Basically hyperconsequentialism. It doesn't really matter if a being is conscious. Most of our rules are just because they are principles which themselves provide value by being universal and which prevent us from having to do a full accounting. We may just have to do accounting more often instead.

aug 27, 2025, 4:03 pm • 0 0 • view
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cara ara~ @hyperfekt.net

A being suffering is not bad in itself, because without any effect of any sort on the outside world there is no difference whether it does or does not. It just happens to be that letting humans suffer has been a pretty bad idea generally because the effects can hardly be contained.

aug 27, 2025, 4:05 pm • 0 0 • view
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Leftover woman @rosactrl.bsky.social

I don’t know if I follow, or agree. At this point of my life I believe the only thing that gives meaning to an ethical framework is consciousness and the capability to suffer. Outside everything is chaos

aug 27, 2025, 5:51 pm • 1 0 • view
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Leftover woman @rosactrl.bsky.social

On the other hand I don’t believe we should be abusing whatever is around us because consciousness is involved, but just because abuse in itself feels wrong. This may sound stupid, but a forest is beautiful, regardless of humans being there to appreciate it, so what about just not mess it up? 🤔

aug 28, 2025, 7:47 pm • 1 0 • view