no this sucks. rural people are not “the problem” any more than city people are. the capitalist ruling class is the problem, and we need to be identifying our enemy clearly or there is no hope of survival.
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Begging Marxists to remember the concept of the Lumpenproletariat.
aug 16, 2025, 8:22 am • 9 0 • view
That is not what is being addressed in the post I’m replying to, it’s simplistic “us vs them” “urban-vs-rural” bigotry.
aug 16, 2025, 11:10 am • 0 0 • view
It's not bigotry if it's fucking true.
aug 16, 2025, 11:26 am • 22 0 • view
It's the rural whites you racist
aug 16, 2025, 6:23 pm • 2 0 • view
Capitalism is why your girlfriend left.
aug 16, 2025, 5:18 am • 8 0 • view
if rural america had been depopulated like every other developed country has done we would not be in this mess. but no, we had to subsidize their dying, regressive lifestyle and are all paying the price.
aug 16, 2025, 5:04 am • 44 2 • view
Biden gave rural people their biggest raise in a century and funneled immense sums of money into giving them jobs again, and their response was an overwhelming vote in favor of slaughtering minorities Give it up, they’re not poor smol beans, they’re deeply immoral people who need consequences
aug 18, 2025, 3:26 am • 1 0 • view
Rural voters are directly responsible for me not being able to travel freely to my home country and there being masked feds on the streets of the city I live in.
aug 17, 2025, 6:11 pm • 13 0 • view
The rurals are voting for the capitalist ruling class because they hate you for being gay.
aug 17, 2025, 5:46 pm • 5 0 • view
rural people are why my city is being overrun by masked goons
aug 16, 2025, 4:43 am • 190 7 • view
Donald Trump is from the sticks?
aug 16, 2025, 12:37 pm • 1 0 • view
Staten Island is a quaint farm town?
aug 16, 2025, 12:37 pm • 1 0 • view
you’re entitled to all the self-satisfied reductionism you want, but that don’t make it true. plenty of conversations to be had about the problem of the many reactionaries we have in this country—but the city/rural binary is not only imprecise, it’s a conflict the ruling class intentionally stoke.
aug 16, 2025, 12:43 pm • 1 0 • view
Sure, but that's the areas where his voters are a majority.
aug 17, 2025, 5:58 pm • 3 0 • view
can't find my bourgeois oppressors with all these dang lumpenproles jumping around & hollering
aug 16, 2025, 4:46 am • 105 1 • view
I mean, there are any number of zoomed-in groups where you can say, if they simply didn't exist or weren't (broadly) on the side of evil, we wouldn't be in this shit: rurals, evangelicals, swing state nonvoters, etc.
aug 16, 2025, 5:29 pm • 2 0 • view
One shouldn't focus on rurals to the extent of denying the others are equally culpable, but by the same token, pointing out the others isn't any sort of defense.
aug 16, 2025, 5:29 pm • 2 0 • view
Where is the base for trumpism? Where does he get the most votes? Where are the representatives districts who vote for this? Rural America. Get real dude
aug 17, 2025, 5:58 pm • 2 0 • view
I assure you the way they vote IS the problem.
aug 16, 2025, 4:28 pm • 13 0 • view
Rural people are the problem
aug 17, 2025, 5:57 pm • 1 0 • view
lol nope
aug 16, 2025, 2:43 am • 18 0 • view
The problem is conservatism. Seems to me those rural folks are the ones who support this anti-human political philosophy. You couldn’t be more wrong. The rural folks are a scourge. They benefit from liberal programs, then turn around and hate the libs. Fuck the farmers.
aug 16, 2025, 9:03 pm • 8 1 • view
Rural people are a monolith now? And no conservatives live in cities?
aug 16, 2025, 9:34 pm • 1 0 • view
Yes and yes
aug 16, 2025, 9:35 pm • 4 0 • view
Step 1: Identify the enemy clearly. Step 2: ???? Step 3: Profit. (Or whatever the commie equivalent is)
aug 16, 2025, 9:40 am • 3 0 • view
Rural people literally voted for this.
aug 17, 2025, 6:14 am • 3 0 • view
The "capitalist ruling class" is an easy bogeyman to target. You really think the 1% just rule alone with nothing but the support of the police & army? Lol no. They alway had a large segment of the population defending them. And almost always in history, it was the rural population.
aug 16, 2025, 5:56 am • 29 0 • view
Communist propaganda has tried to pretend farmers and city workers share the same goals. Definetly not always. It has varied at times in history. But counterrevolutionaries have always been rural. The royalist uprising of the French revolution? Slave plantation owners? And on and on
aug 16, 2025, 5:56 am • 20 0 • view
The rural world has ALWAYS been conservative and self interested. Even to this day, farmers will flood your cities with cowshit for daring to impose regulations on fertilizer usage, even though they're literally killing our rivers with it and creating microclimates with NOx. Fuck that.
aug 16, 2025, 5:56 am • 22 0 • view
Obviously not a general rule. For exemple Mexican farmers were instrumental in the revolution. But as soon as they got the land redistribution they wanted, they essentially stopped doing anything and going any further in the revolution.
aug 16, 2025, 5:56 am • 15 0 • view
There are ppl of both parties in both places. There are ppl of no parties in both places. Place isn't the problem in anything; it's just a place. Find who has the power, you'll find your problem. Dont worry about big isms. Get everyone together to kick shitheads to the curb. All parties, all places.
aug 17, 2025, 5:42 am • 2 0 • view
Identify the enemy: Capitalism What props up the enemy: religious groups, racists, and the undereducated. Where do you mostly find this demographic? I'm sure you know the answer...
aug 16, 2025, 4:57 pm • 1 0 • view
The middle class business owners? I remember seeing articles like these: slate.com/news-and-pol...
aug 16, 2025, 5:39 pm • 3 0 • view
unherd.com/2024/03/car-...
aug 16, 2025, 5:40 pm • 2 0 • view
It's not even unique to Trump. The base for fascism consists of several elements but at the end of the day its the polite mask of capitalist dominance taken off in a vain attempt to maintain control during a crisis.
aug 16, 2025, 5:41 pm • 2 0 • view
yeah you find them in houses, in workplaces, in grocery stores. all people in those places are therefore the enemies of freedom!
aug 17, 2025, 6:03 pm • 0 0 • view
Look. Republicans are not just like you and me. They go to the grocery store and I go to the grocery store, but then I don't go to the Klan meeting afterwards.
aug 17, 2025, 6:05 pm • 1 0 • view
To be fair they don't go to the meeting they just tune into Fox News. It's essentially the same as the Klan meetings.
aug 17, 2025, 8:13 pm • 1 0 • view
Lol
aug 16, 2025, 5:07 am • 6 0 • view
Everyone still doing this in 2025 needs to be sent to some disgusting rural shithole town and forced to stay there until they can convert a sizable number of 3 time Trump voters to become good little communists.
aug 16, 2025, 11:25 am • 24 0 • view
Yeah, you’re right, we should all become smug MSNBC libs and call them all meth heads, how could I have been deceived into thinking that that is totally intellectually vacuous and counterproductive!
aug 16, 2025, 11:36 am • 0 0 • view
aug 16, 2025, 11:41 am • 66 15 • view
"no no, we have to understand them, globalism made them resentful of foreigners"
aug 16, 2025, 3:54 pm • 16 0 • view
no, oligarch-owned media (consolidated talk radio monopolies, TV, print, social media) took kernels of truth (NAFTA was a real attack on workers in the US & Mexico—a wound that never healed for many US workers) and built & reinforced (daily!) divide & conquer identities & narratives around them.
aug 17, 2025, 6:47 pm • 0 0 • view
nobody could plausibly argue we’d be in the same place we’re in today if all mass media had been magically somehow free of this sort of brainwashing.
aug 17, 2025, 6:48 pm • 0 0 • view
or better, if it was all, or even mostly under the democratic control of the masses of people, the working class and the people capitalism treats as “surplus population”.
aug 17, 2025, 6:50 pm • 0 0 • view
Everything you said is more or less true But white working class people should stop voting Republican, it's hurting them and everyone else and it's no crime to point this out.
aug 18, 2025, 12:38 am • 0 0 • view
“I wish I could be at brunch now pretending President Kamala Harris isn’t also carrying out fascist policies—expanding the funding and powers of ICE, sending more bombs and unconditional support to the US/Israeli genocide of Palestine, encouraging violent state & corporate repression of protests”
aug 16, 2025, 11:47 am • 1 0 • view
smug fucks tell yourselves you oppose fascism by voting for one of the two fascist parties in the imperial core.
aug 16, 2025, 11:50 am • 0 0 • view
You’re right, I should be an effective anti-fascist like you. From now on, I’m gonna talk about actual blood and soil types like I’m their battered spouse, making sure everyone knows how much they didn’t MEAN to be racist authoritarians, honest!
aug 16, 2025, 11:56 am • 10 0 • view
Just wondering, how long do I have to wait for Jethro and Cletus to finally rise up, stop being racist, and join their proletarian brothers to kill billionaires? I gotta imagine your ass is getting pins and needles by now sitting around waiting for that, yeah?
aug 16, 2025, 11:58 am • 9 0 • view
if we all sit around and wait, we’re going to be unhappy with the result. if we can agree on anything, it’s that we’re well past the time for sitting around and waiting for someone else to fix shit.
aug 16, 2025, 12:01 pm • 0 0 • view
You’ll forgive me if I’m skeptical that you’re the one leftist on social media that’s really gonna firebomb the Wal-Mart this time after talking about it for years. And I’m even more skeptical that rural America is gonna help you do it.
aug 16, 2025, 12:05 pm • 8 0 • view
Nobody is talking about… whatever you’re describing. And it’s my policy to mute people who start talking about violent acts like that so goodbye.
aug 16, 2025, 12:15 pm • 0 0 • view
I guess this kinda comes back to what I said at first. There’s villages full of rednecks just waiting to help you operate the guillotine! Go on, brother, time’s a wasting, go find a toothless hick wearing Alligator Alcatraz merch and tell him why he needs to join your terrorist cell!
aug 16, 2025, 12:09 pm • 5 0 • view
Making up a fictionalized version of a person to get mad at
aug 16, 2025, 7:23 pm • 6 0 • view
nah just holding up a mirror. if you can’t see that the Democratic Party is also fascist, that’s a you problem.
aug 17, 2025, 5:47 pm • 0 0 • view
the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between good & bad things. you imbecile. you fucking moron"
aug 16, 2025, 4:00 pm • 5 0 • view
Gee that’s strange, you have quote marks around that comment, but I never said any of that 🤨🤨🤨
aug 16, 2025, 11:49 am • 17 0 • view
your image depicts a reductive analysis in which liberals are somehow not “fascism supporters”, in the US context, that’s what that means
aug 16, 2025, 11:53 am • 0 0 • view
Fascism is when we aren’t living in your idealized anarchist paradise, got it.
aug 16, 2025, 11:53 am • 20 0 • view
“actual fascism is when the gun is pointed at my family. when it’s pointed at my neighbor, that’s just The Way The World Works”
aug 16, 2025, 11:56 am • 0 0 • view
“Fascism is when a government uses a gun”
aug 16, 2025, 11:59 am • 16 0 • view
of course they are the problem
aug 16, 2025, 12:33 pm • 6 0 • view
Come with me if you want to live. - Kyle Reese The enemy is Russian Israeli transnational organized crime, the capos 1) in Tel Aviv and 2) in Moscow, and 3) the guy who was born into a front of the Genovese Family in N.Y. 1. Netanyahu. 2. Putin. 3. Trump.
aug 16, 2025, 8:53 pm • 0 0 • view
what’s your source on Trump being a front for the Genovese family? I’d like to read more about that.
aug 17, 2025, 5:46 pm • 0 0 • view
aug 17, 2025, 7:45 pm • 0 0 • view
Rolling Stone December 2019 'Donald J. Trump was born into a front organization of the Genovese crime family. In 1983, the year Trump Tower opened its doors, the future president reportedly met the Genovese family boss. The common thread linking Fat Tony Salerno and Trump was Roy Cohn..'
aug 17, 2025, 5:51 pm • 0 0 • view
It's the way America practices capitalism, and the lack of political will to fix it. If capitalism truly a problem then life wouldn't be so much better in countries like Finland and Denmark.
aug 17, 2025, 6:03 pm • 1 0 • view
This is a dumb, bad take and you should feel bad.
aug 16, 2025, 5:24 pm • 2 0 • view
Republicans are literally rounding up gardeners and putting them into a fetid, parasite-infested concentration camp and a foreign torture prison while the rednecks cheer them on. I am absolutely done with "buh-buh-buh what about CAPITALISM you guys 🥺"
aug 16, 2025, 6:16 am • 79 5 • view
you preferred when the concentration camps weren’t so public or crass, eh? back in the good old days when it was Biden and Harris running on expanding the budgets for ICE, and continuing to send bombs and money for genocide? Blue MAGA is the righteousness of fools and opportunists—which are you?
aug 17, 2025, 6:07 pm • 0 0 • view
Forget it Mach, they're another one of those fools who are convinced it's still the 1930s and rural residents are impoverished, neglected and waiting for a new FDR to come along and launch massive programs lifting them out of poverty, after which they vote solid D for 30 years.
aug 16, 2025, 6:53 am • 43 0 • view
the party you freaks stan wouldn’t let Kamala’s *proxy* (Waltz) even *IMPLY* they would materially improve the lives of voters. look at who her campaign donors and advisors were and tell me that capitalism is not our problem you fucking stale smarmy Bill Maher wannabes.
aug 17, 2025, 6:10 pm • 0 0 • view
(Ignore the bit where black and immigrant/refugee civil rights had to be thrown under the bus to keep them on board the coalition)
aug 16, 2025, 6:53 am • 31 0 • view
Anyway, here's how I view those guys—our local equivalent, the American version, and every regional variant across the world.
aug 16, 2025, 6:59 am • 19 0 • view
I want to pin this to my profile lol
aug 16, 2025, 5:36 pm • 4 0 • view
Hi, rural person here. You are flatly wrong. The person working minimum wage at the Dollar General and the farmer who owns hundreds of acres vote for the same candidates. They have the same politics. Their great enemy, the trans kid playing sports, and the brown woman telling them no.
aug 16, 2025, 5:53 am • 71 1 • view
They vote racial solidarity, not class solidarity. You have to break the first to make the second
aug 16, 2025, 7:07 am • 10 0 • view
Rural-bred person here as well. They've all always voted against their own interests. Now the only place to shop is Walmart and it's just a zillion well-armed obese people griping about "illegals," as if Venezuelans are camped in their front yard waiting to steal their house and job.
aug 16, 2025, 1:02 pm • 14 0 • view
no denying it, there’s absolutely truth in that! you’re getting into particularities and away from 1-dimensional us-vs-them reductionism I was criticizing, so there’s now substance to discuss: what forces made it so Walmart is the only store in town? who is getting them angry about Venezuelans? etc.
aug 16, 2025, 1:16 pm • 0 0 • view
They did. They, as consumers, chose to patronize Walmart to the exclusion of other options until they closed. Who is getting them angry about Venezuelans, they are. No one forces them to watch Fox or listen to right-wing radio. They have the same access to information that I do, they always have.
aug 16, 2025, 2:11 pm • 16 1 • view
They choose to pour the racist conspiratorial rantings of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck. Tucker Carlson, etc into their minds. They could listen to other sources, I know because I do, or even just turn it off when they say obvious lies. But they don't.
aug 16, 2025, 2:11 pm • 14 0 • view
My rep has voted for bill after bill that worsens the material conditions of the people here, the only way he loses his seat is if he is not seen as committed enough to Trump. There is no class argument to be made here. Biden helped them more than anyone, and they hated him for it.
aug 16, 2025, 5:53 am • 66 0 • view
I want those rural trailer trash rounded up, and neutralized. Their backwards shithole trailer park small towns should be destroyed and rendered uninhabitable, and their barbaric uncivilized culture should be eliminated by any means necessary. Kill everything rural and salt the earth it came from.
aug 16, 2025, 6:52 am • 7 0 • view
Harsh? No. Antifascist.
aug 16, 2025, 7:36 am • 0 0 • view
For decades, we’ve been trying to find common cause with rural people and hoping that between that and delivering infrastructure and healthcare, they’d come around. It hasn’t worked. At some point, you need to hold adults responsible for their own choices.
aug 16, 2025, 5:21 pm • 21 1 • view
Who is the problem is no longer material, the ability of rural areas to occupy us needs to be destroyed
aug 16, 2025, 5:15 pm • 2 0 • view
Rural people suck, as a ruralite myself. Sure to a very small degree city elites misunderstanding or neglecting rural needs plays some part in all of this. What plays a much larger part is rural people being captured by low effort propaganda, often times willingly. Oh and being racist as fuck
aug 17, 2025, 12:29 am • 10 1 • view
That's like saying "all these Nazis aren't the problem, Adolf Hitler and Goebbels are the problem!" They might be the ring leaders but the Nazi followers are very much a problem, and no speech is going to change the followers minds once they're part of that movement
aug 16, 2025, 9:14 am • 28 0 • view
You also miss the point that this is a movement driven by ideology and resentment first, not any sort of rational but selfish class interest. Look at the initial reaction to Trump from the elites, they loathed him. It wasn't until he made it clear he'd punish dissenters that they bowed to him.
aug 16, 2025, 9:17 am • 18 0 • view
Nah they are
aug 16, 2025, 4:51 pm • 5 0 • view
someone should perhaps tell the rural people that they aren't my enemy, because they certainly seem to think they are
aug 16, 2025, 5:02 am • 136 4 • view
speak for yourself
aug 16, 2025, 5:04 am • 2 0 • view
Rural people are very much the problem. Not all of them, of course. And that has nothing to do with a "capitalist ruling class", but is the outcome of many rural people being racist, homophobic and misogynistic assholes
aug 16, 2025, 5:10 pm • 7 0 • view
people are very much the problem. not all of them, of course. do you see the problem here?
aug 17, 2025, 6:39 pm • 0 0 • view