haha wat - I am not 'snubbing' my family I have broken with them for serious reasons - I regret only that I didn't do it sooner - If they admit they were wrong about everything from vaccines to climate I might speak to them again only that will never happen with my brother who is dead from Covid
I’m with you…buh-bye right wing crazies.
We didn't leave them, they left their humanity behind.
Is there a Murc's Law section of the NYT id not previously heard about?
Is it time to stop snubbing that sex offender living in your neighborhood? Shouldn't you stop ignoring the klan member in your office and have him over for lunch? There is right wing, and there is "right wing". I'd throw my cousin a life preserver if he were drowning, but won't let him in my house
Right? We don’t have a difference of opinion. I have a fundamental disagreement about morals and human rights, which leaves me feeling unsafe in my birth family.
Exactly and somehow you are the one who has to 'compromise'
I was recently told to “mend fences” with my mother. I said, “You mean the fences that I did not tear down? Those fences?” She can die without me. She’s done so much harm, and has never taken any accountability.
I will never speak to any of them again. They still stick with the idea felon 47 is making America great and healthy. One almost died from covid and praises the pos.
I am blessed that all of my family agree that Trump and MAGA are a pestilence and should be rotting in jail.
Same, thank god. But I'd cut off any MAGA friends and family without any regret. Who wants to be around the hateful and ignorant? Even aside from their frightening immorality, they cannot be pleasant company--what's the upside for us?
The main thing was my mom and aunt could pretend 'the family' was still a real thing, and that meant so much to them. Also, I'd grown up with these people and really loved them so much and so it hurt like I don't even know what, to let go, and then after that I was free
That sounds really hard. I haven't had the experience of having to cut off someone I love, and despite my bold talk, I'm not 100% sure I could do it, even knowing it was right. I admire your strength.
You are very kind, thank you. By the time it got that bad there was just no other choice, they were all terrible. I'm sad still for sure, but for them; for myself I'm super grateful that it didn't all just pull me under.
Not having to listen to their insane, evil bullshit
Both of my in-laws died of Covid but I had already banned them from my home. Sad for my kids (they still got to see them, just not at my house) but I have no regrets.
It's so awful. I'm so sorry. Terrible on my kid too, stress she didn't need
Never...
They're just unpleasant people and I have family who aren't
I'm turning it up from snubbing to shunning.
Yeah no fucking way. Not after some of them double down on concentration camps and shit 😒
yikes
The estrangement between family members due to Trump era politics is a sub-theme of my latest novel, Louie on the Rocks. Spoiler alert: It doesn't end well. bookshop.org/p/books/loui...
Secret police rounding up innocent people into concentration camps isn't something I'm willing to "get over".
Exactly, I cannot fathom the decision to publish this thing... now?!
Anyone who is suggesting reaching across the aisle as a strategy who isn't still in high school and as naive as a babe fallen off the turnip truck should be insulted and blocked.
Every two weeks I go to my Pop's house to help him and my sister. They're both MAGA. I have one rule - absolutely no talking politics or politics adjacent subjects. I wear earplugs doing the housework because they run Fox all day. I do not allow Republicans new to me into my life.
When is it okay to have fascists in the family?
never the answer is never
Mate, fuck ‘em. I’ve gotten to old to give a shit about dummy relatives anymore. Half-wits, brexiteers, and genuinely deluded. Don’t want ‘em, don’t need ‘em.
I feel for you and am in a similar boat. A close relative's spirited defense of the child separation policy in Trump1 really scarred my soul. People who defined themselves as "conservative" had a kind of coming-out party starting in 2017, and the theme was "Ta-Da, We're Nazis!"
omg, I am so sorry, that sounds so awful. And for nothing! it's the saddest thing Same here, listening politely to the most horrific, evil nonsense so as not to upset my mom.
Not if you have morals and principles.
Thank god pathetic centrists Obama hacks are here to tell you what you must do to accommodate people who hate you. Obama - campaigned as a progressive, governed as a centrist. His staff. Pretended to give a shit about regular people but really only interested is sycophancy and $$$ from the right.
Such a crushing blow, I really thought things were going to start to get better after the Bush years
So far never had to break ties over politics but I have cut several off because they are assholes. Yeah, I’m the mean ass middle child! 😠
They have rejected us.
No. I told my mother and a brother to consider me as dead, and to never contact me again. I WILL NOT MAKE NICE, WITH NAZIS.
I remember the sadistic gloating and gif of cartman licking tears when trump won. I'm not snubbing them, I just realized they're too far gone and not worth my time or effort anymore. Regardless of whether they complain or not about losing access to me, I will remained unbothered.
This exactly, same, my life improved to an astronomical degree when I let go of this conflict. My mom was horrified at first but in time even she acknowledged I'd made the right decision Solidarity!!
I’m sorry you lost your brother. I too have family (most of my cousins) that believe vaccines are bad (it’s the most absurd and harmful conspiracy theory) and they are completely convinced and ready to physically fight me when I try to speak sense to them… I gave up… they’re crazy.
Now more than ever is the time to go no contact with the oldest school friends and problematic family members. I was angry in 2016 but not completely jaded. I was sick of everyones shit by 2020. But when Trump was elected I posted on my FB that all Trump voters could fuck off, no exceptions.
It is the brainwashing that is hard to reconcile. My mom was the sweetest, but she was home retired with my right wing father. They were vaccinated but covid killed them both. My mom before my dad. He spent the last 6 months of his life guilty about the shit, I regret the time I missed with her.
Wow, I'm so sorry. These charlatans caused the same grief for millions of us.
Also, I blame Trump and dismantling of the infectious disease monitoring and continuous denial of covid for their deaths. Imagine if we were ahead of emerging disease- but he has to show those scientists he and brainworm know more.
Looks like NYT is suffering a loss of readership and so punts to clickbait.
I didn’t break with some family members because of politics. It wasn’t political. It was moral.
My brother in law said he doesn’t believe in history any more today. Uff what is happening
gah!
Asking people to forgive or apologize to family members who make them feel unsafe is dirty business.
It sure is. It's an insult to those of us whose families were annihilated by Fox News and Rush Limbaugh
the thing I like about @nytimes.com and @nytpitchbot.bsky.social is that you know how the columnists' kids feel about them at any moment of the day. Daughter: Dad! you support Nazis Dad: hunny, dont you see how 12% capital gains and giving me grandkids solves all of my problems. Oh! NYT COLUMN!