They can find someone else to support them. It won’t be me. That said, when it comes to general elections, I will always support Democrats. The stakes are too high not to. I am a pragmatic progressive, and I own it. -end
They can find someone else to support them. It won’t be me. That said, when it comes to general elections, I will always support Democrats. The stakes are too high not to. I am a pragmatic progressive, and I own it. -end
Why do you feel the need to qualify your progressive beliefs? STOP it. That is part of their strategy to divide and conquer. Stop buying their explanation. Being progressive IS pragmatic.
Thank you, for all you try to sum up. Truly needs to be said.
I think there are MANY of us!!!
Pragmatic progressive is an oxymoron. You can’t tell me that after jumping on a progressive thread you heard any willingness from them to be pragmatic or open minded to any moderation if it means winning. They are purists who DO actually cause losses to dems.
Well said. I'll never support republicans, period.
Support your candidate until you cannot support them any longer. And then support whomever is the Dem still in the race (fight). Because, as you say, voting Republican isn’t an option. But neither is staying home because your progressive candidate is no longer in the fight.
Thinking giving in to the bratty child will make them behave better is a fallacy we see all too often in this world. How we ended up with a bunch of white dudes my age acting like cartman.
I’ve long said that you cannot work with a party that reacts to us reaching across the aisle by shitting in our open hand. Compromise used to be possible, but now they just keep pushing the Overton Window to the right while we chase them. No more. We fight as lefties or die as a movement.
There. That.
No more bringing a butter knife to a street fight
That is what happened in Canada. We refused to let the rightwing nutbar lead this country through hard times
When the Democratic party did go for a Progressive in Moderate clothing, Clinton, she was vilified. But perhaps what this has all brought home is the compliance, how old a story it truly is. These people will consume us all and then other. Dominance. Media is follow the money, not right or left.
And also... impossible to surgically remove gender as a factor there. We don't know precisely, but we know it's a thing.
This is me. Vote the most progressive candidate in the race, always. Whether that is a moderate democrat or or ultra left, every one of them is better than every republican.
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Amen!
Unapologetically!
Feel every single thing you said here
another pragmatic progressive here. I did not like Hillary Clinton - she bent with every wind and was a corporate Democrat, but in the end I voted for her because I knew she was a far better choice that the Orange Cancer who ended up winning.
Pragmatic progressive. Left-leaning centrist. Practical local official. I have been all of those. I still work well w/others. But I will never vote for any Republican for anything. People who will trade away American ideals and democratic foreign allies (❤️ 🇨🇦🇺🇦) cant be trusted with power.
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sankara was a great man. like khadaffi, he threatened the usa control of africa.
This is a pretty accurate description of me as well.
The point about withdrawing support from democrats who co-opt language of the right to attack and disenfranchise progressives is an extremely important insight! We can disagree and discuss, but do not dismiss. Solidarity is how we defeat them.
I often wonder… Did I become a progressive, or did the political spectrum get shifted so far to the right that the progressive label came to me?
Dems problems has been they are cowards and are afraid of articulating why they support something like freedom from religious tyranny, AKA, pro-life fascists. They struggle with being able to connect the dots (like why would men care about bodily autonomy and listening to scientists and experts?)
Progressive policies are not as popular as polls claim they are. The more bigoted voters are, the more they vote against what they claim to support in single-issue polls. This is a VERY bigoted culture, and that means real support for progressive policies is MUCH lower than it appears to be.
“I will no longer support candidates who co-opt language from the right to attack the left just to chase white voters they think they lost in 2024.” But: “When it comes to general elections, I will always support Democrats.”…
…Which begs the question: What if the only Democratic candidate in a general election is one who “co-opts language from the right to attack the left?”
BLESS YOU!!!
I love this. As Progressives we need to work with Democrats, and show up for Democrats in the general elections. We can’t go it alone. But we also need to push from inside. Show up to Dem Primaries! We should also organize as Progressives. Could be a Democratic club, or WFP, or Indivisible…
Think about how a powerful progressive caucus in the house can push the democrats left... just like the freedom caucus pushes the R's right.
same
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I'm an old, what's called in Texas, yellow dog Democrat. But, now...
Same
Total respect!
I’ve often used the word pragmatic to describe myself, at least my voting choices. My guiding light has been who is going to do whatever they can to make sure children get fed.
Music to my ears. I think we are now more united than people realize. We just need the leadership!
There are people who think that the only way to win elections is to do nothing, thus upsetting nobody. They want to turn the Democratic Party into a conservative party. But it can’t compete with the Republican Party’s reputation for being conservative. So it’s progressive or nothing.
This is the way.
I too believed appealing to the middle was the way to win over votes to the left. Sometimes it worked, but not anymore. We can’t expect a different result from the same tired playbook. The reason people are threatened by the likes of AOC and Mamdani are exactly why we need them.
I've been saying that all along. Dems always think they can persuade the maga voters to see things their way. Ain't gonna happen. They need to persuade the one-third of people who never vote to get out and vote. That's the difference between winning and losing.
I’ve shared a similar experience. At some point I realized perhaps I was the problem. Until we stop supporting the “middle” (which has moved very far right) we won’t make any progress. I now equate the middle with corporate owned Dems. I fight like hell in the primaries for progressive candidates.
I think the issue is most progressives aren’t pragmatic. I’m the same way, I think basically everything they say is the way things should be. Problem is, to achieve those goals you have to do things like convince millions of Americans on very good health care plans to give those up. Hard to do.
And the second you bring that up you are an “asshole normie lib” or some shit. It’s like you don’t have to convince me everyone should have health care, you have to convince a subset of the population that drinks raw milk and thinks vax have Gates nanoparticles. And they accept no middle ground
Good points!
I live in a country w national health care and also have private insurance. National is great for the annual stuff, the big stuff like cancer, organ transplants. Private is faster, freedom of choice of drs., more services. Most drs. wrk public and private.
Yes!!
I'm in a similar but not identical position. One thing I'm afraid we're up against is that the current crop of elected Democrats have been trained that the left will always abandon them when the going gets tough.
We have to retrain them, and the left has to stick with it through more than just one election. I don't know how we get there without spending years out of power. We can't afford those years, and we've just started down this road.
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Ohhh, yes. 💯
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Game theory should be employed in today's politics. Anyone against Trump and MAGA should support the candidate who has the best chance of beating MAGA, whether that person is the party favorite or not.
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Voting for republicans (or not voting at all) is not the solution. It’s the problem.
Well said.
You are speaking for me.
Yesssssss ‼️ agree with you 💯
Well said. Thank you. Same here.
I like your term "Pragmatic Progressive".
What you shared in your string of comments is spot on. I'm 70 & ready for dramatic change, as I feel Progressive policies are the next step in Dem-political policy evolution The old guard need embrace change like some elder voters have or they need to pass the baton Let the younger remake the US
I am 64 and feel the same. The same old same old we have been experiencing is obviously not working, so time for some kick-ass attitudes - as he says, that speak to the gut. Plus, it is natural (and vital) to have younger people take the reins with new perspectives and energy.