Violence against women is a serious and pervasive issue. Its weaponisation - whether by the far right or transphobes - to spread fear and hate towards marginalised groups is disgusting and won't make any of us safer. Our government must reject these divide-and-rule politics.
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Trace all these antisocial movements back to their roots and you’ll find good old Jesus pushing his bible up our rectums. We need special laws that target the religious. Start stoning a few for mixing fabrics would be a great start.
And why should it be, exactly?
Oh. I'd have thought you'd have been quite into it. It also argues that there should be special legal targeting of a group of people the poster doesn't like.
Well, LGBTQ people aren’t out passing anti-social laws. Religious people certainly are, so there is that. Asking christians to stone their own would be more fitting for certain.
I'm a religious person. Not a Christian or even a monotheist (some of us aren't), nor one who thinks my religion is of any relevance to government, or society as a whole. Although you mentioned Jesus, you *said* "target the religious". Perhaps we'd be better targeting fascists?
Correlation is certainly not causation. Fascist and Christians are quite correlated here in the US, where I assume you are not. I don’t care what people believe. I do care very much if they try to destroy our government. Pardon me if I fight back in kind.
Pardon me if I don't pardon you. If you aren't targeting properly, you won't hit the proper target. All you need to do is say 'fascists' and you'd fix that. Or if you insist that it's definitely the religious trappings that are the real issue, you could identify 'dominionists' and hit the mark.
In fact, the entire anti-science movement in the US has it’s origins in religion. We have significant populations that can’t tolerate being told the earth being older than 6000 years and that we evolved from lower life forms. This is hurting us quite badly. Yes, I blame religion.
Again, you ascribe to "religion" attributes of faith specific to early-modern western Christianity, modified and deployed as a political control system. Aversion to the idea of an old Earth is rather particularly a characteristic of Christianity, and then only some of its branches.
Forcing other to conform is a very common and problematic religious activity. It’s not confined to Christianity by any means. To not see this as a driving element in our current fascist infestation misses a very key point.
Forcing others to conform is something humans do. Understanding that religions are frequently weaponised as tools to this end, and that dominionist Christianity is currently one of the primary forms of such is essential. Blundering about throwing accusations at "religion" is inefficient targeting.
What do you mean by transphobes? People who point out that trans-identifying males are just as likely to be violent as any other group of males?
Trans women are not only not as likely to commit violence as cis men, they’re also more than four times more likely to be victims of it. I know this, I’ve had to deal with sexual assault as a trans woman. It stings to know you identify me as an attacker and not as a victim.
According to UK prison stats, trans-identifying males are more likely than other men to be sex offenders. Approx 60% of trans inmates have convictions for sexual offences. That's nothing to do with you personally.
Any actual evidence to support your theory that trans identifying males are not as likely to commit violence as non trans identifying males? (it's rhetorical, i know there is no evidence to support your theory)
I can support the theory that trans women are just as likely to be victims of violence as cis women are- in fact, four times as likely. www.theguardian.com/society/2020... As for rates of criminality- no, I can’t. Because in criminal cases whether or not the perpetrator is trans not on the record.
This article doesn’t divide the victims of crime by sex, so it doesn't show what you're claiming. It does make a valid point of its own though.
Neither can you prove that trans women are as inclined to criminality as cis men. You’ve basically just assumed that. Why would a population which behaves completely differently to cis men, talks differently, takes hormones, wears women’s clothes - in some cases literalky surgically alter 2/
Our bodies, NONE of which are things cis men do, unexplainably retain any other pattern of behaviour that cis men do?
Why wouldn't you? Cosmetic surgery doesnt magically make someone less aggressive. Estrogen doesn't reduce the male propensity to violence. Interestingly though, taking testosterone does make women more violent.
As I said, there is no evidence that transwomen are less likely to be violent than other men.
How many men do you know in your life that have taken estrogen? Not trans women, like cis men, who call themselves men. Like is it something that you’ve ever done?
What has this got to do with your unsubstantiated statement? It's okay to say you were wrong and move on.
No no legit, I’m asking you a question. Do you know any cis men in your life that take estrogen, but still identity purely as men?
As a group, MtF transitioners "had no statistically significant differences from other natal males, for convictions in general or for violent offending. " They "retained a male pattern regarding criminality. The same was true regarding violent crime." committees.parliament.uk/writtenevide...
1/2 "Gender diverse [GD] offenders with sex offence histories (SOH) accounted for 37% (n = 57) of the 155 gender diverse offenders identified during the study period (December 2017 to September 2021); 86% were transgender women, 0% were transgender men,..." - Sex Offense Hist.: 86% were trans women
2/2 Gender diverse offenders (trans women & persons identified as “other” gender diverse offenders) had criminal histories SIMILAR to offenders in men’s institutions with sex offence histories. www.canada.ca/en/correctio...
Forbes claims that in 2024 globally, 350 trans people were murdered. A horrible statistic. The UN released a report that says over 51,000 women were murdered by someone they knew - a partner, a family member.
Source? Stats? Anything other than your feelings to back this claim up?
People who fail to understand the basic biological and neuroanatomical reality of brain/body incongruence and choose to wield violence against vulnerable people whose existence exposes the hollowness of your nihilistic ideology.
The people usually wielding violence are male, statistically speaking. And that's the case regardless of gender identity. If you want to address violence against women amd girls, then you have to acknowledge that violent behaviour is highly sex-based.
And cis white women have made their comfort wielding violence against trans women abundantly clear. TERFs are the modern Carolyn Bryant.
What violence?
Weaponizing your white woman tears to sic angry white men on trans women, for one.
Any examples in the real world?
Are you disputing that Carolyn Bryant was a real person who murdered a real little boy?
You think Emmett Till was trans?
I think cisgender white women have been wielding violence against outgroup members who make them uncomfortable for centuries and trans women are just the latest target.
There's no "regardless of gender identity." Trans women are biologically not male as a matter of prenatal brain sex development. Neuroanatomy is biology. Including trans women in statistics about male violence is just bad data science.
Lol, sure.
Sorry, was there a part of that immutable biological reality that makes you uncomfortable?
It's just a sad failure of your education.
Clearly they mean you bigot.
Factually correct though, isnt it?
Facts are bigotry. Thats all they’ve got.
The dictionary definition of bigotry: refusing to accept cultures, worldviews or opinions that differ from your own. The transactivist definition of biology: any culture, worldview or opinion that differs from their own. War is peace, etc etc.
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The Reform'ed Labour government support the vilifying of trans people in the UK and we lobby your party and still, nothing but platitudes. Maybe time to ditch Reform'ed Labour instead of tweeting? Just a thought
Leftist never commit violence towards women? Are you sure?
So hold a no confidence vote in Wes Streeting, the man is king of transphobia. Even being a labour MP and keeping him in charge of our healthcare is kind of being complicit in this. You’re not in opposition now, you have actual power here *and* you have responsibility.
Thank you for educating me that Parliament can hold no confidence votes against specific MPs!
They still need to be calling out Streeting (and Starmer) big time, and they're not.
While many people with the protected characteristic of gender reassignment live in fear, and are justly angry at the government, thank you for the recognition that it is trans people (and more widely all LGBT people) who are twice as likely to experience DV and SV at the hands of cisgender perps.
And... to scratch the surface a little deeper: it is about the violent policing of sexuality and gender/sex diversity by heterosexual / cissexual people. Making our lives more dangerous, and more vulnerable to abuse is simply an extension of this abuse.
They not only don't reject them but they promote the dangerous rhetoric on a daily basis. If you are party of the Labour party then you are complicit.
The divide-and-rule aspect comes from those who smear women as bigots for wanting and needing female-only spaces. Sex is still an axis of oppression and we experience male violence daily. The solution here is to provide additional spaces for trans people, not allow predators to access women's spaces
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Do you think trans women don’t experience misogynistic violence? Do you think I haven’t?
No, I don't think that. But I know that women have faced sex-based violence and oppression. The clearest case is sex-selective abortions. There are countless examples throughout history. It would be nice if people stopped pretending that sex is irrelevant all of a sudden.
And yet I’m transgender, and also experienced sexual abuse based on the fact I look female. Does that not count to you? Or do you think because I’m “male” that it doesn’t matter? That I deserve it? Or don’t deserve the protection of being with other women? Where does this argument go for you?
No, I think you deserve protections. What about you? Do you think sex-based protections are needed to counter sex-based oppression?
I think that misogynistic violence is *gendered*, based on appearance and not on biological sex. An abuser is not going to stop and think “hold up, I need to check your chromosomes first”, they’re acting purely on vibe. I also think that’s why homophobic violence happens to gay men as well. 1/
The term gender was invented in 1955 by Dr. John Money. Seeing as sex-based violence predates the invention of "gender" (and thus gender theory, gender roles, transgenderism), then no, it's not possible that it's all due to gender. Cue the "but we have always existed!": crossdressers, eunuchs, etc.
Straight men are violent towards gay men, because to be gay is to be insufficiently masculine. That’s why I think that you can’t have a movement that simultaneously advances protection for women, and denigrates queer rights. It’s counter productive. Defeats the purpose.
No, it isn't - it's sex-based. Sex-selective abortions, female infanticide, FGM, lack of reproductive rights (including denial of abortions and violence such as symphysiotomy), etc. - our biology is central to our oppression. Other groups face issues but they're distinct. We need our rights.
See - I think it’s the opposite way around. I think biology is the *excuse* given by misogynists for their misogyny, but it’s not the *source* of their misogyny. Patriarchy is. I.e, sex based oppression doesn’t cause patriarchy to exist, patriarchy causes sex based oppression to exist.
Good grief. Taken a few sociology classes, huh? That you didn't work in racism or colonialism was a surprise
Men who wish they were women are not a marginalized group.
Protect the most vulnerable of community’s @blacktranstexas.bsky.social Has been hospitalized from a physical attack from transphobic hate. They need help getting a wheel chair after leaving hospital.
The sad truth is that men of all classes, ethnicities, religions, identities, political opinions commit violence against women & girls. Male violence against women is an act of political terrorism benefitting all men. Men harassing women in the street, watching porn, coercing women into prostitution
You call women attacked by fetishist men "transphobes" and that they're "weaponizing male violence". The only people weaponizing male violence are politicians like you and the violent men that you enable.
Trans women aren't attacking cis women, it is quite literally the other way around. But you don't ascribe cis women enough agency to do that. You agree with far right gender ideology, you just don't like it.
You are a gaslighting supporter of sexually violent men. sla Bryson, Amy George (aka Andy Miller) , Lexi Bowen (aka Alex Secker) , Aria Peers , Lexi Rose Crawford (all male rapists ) are just a few UK cases
You are gaslighting people. You are ignoring the actions of cis people to create a false narrative that trans people are somehow inherently dangerous. You are actively putting women and people in general in harms way by repackaging right wing misogynistic pseudoscience.
www.transcrimeuk.com you are a virulent Misogynist and supporter of violent men. Get in the bin with your femicidial y
Why don't you talk about all of the cis women being attacked in bathrooms by transphobes because they don't perform "traditional" femininity? You are just doing conservatives' work for them. You subscribe to their falsehoods about sex and gender.
Don’t bother. Just block them.
Who said that? People who attack trans women and stigmatise them are transphobes. Not to mention queer women like me receive transphobia because our expectations of how women should look is misogynistic. I am a woman and being told to leave a public space for my birth given appearance is disgusting.
Fuck off TERF.
Sadly @nadiawhittomemp.bsky.social there are already highly transphobic MP's signed up to the new party. Openly & proudly supporting known highly transphobic hate groups. It's a non starter as far as the LGBTQ+ community & their families are concerned.
Then you're working for the wrong party, who specifically attacks trans women. I can't take anyone seriously who is on board with people like that, but say they're not like that. THEN LEAVE THE PARTY
It's worth noting that the far right and transphobes apparently includes swathes of the Labour Party.
Constituent here… probably time to move on from Labour? A green MP would be nice.
Labour are weaponising it. Why are you still in the party?
Your 'Government' is actively embracing that kind of rhetoric, right from the top.
If protecting women was so important then more of the Far Right Bigots that Starmer is pandering too would be on jail.
If it was ever about protecting women the pedo in cheif would be in prison.
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It does need clarifying. youtu.be/ubc3o2KZA4w?...
They're not going to reject it. It's the strategy they've settled on. They took up the culture-war mantle from the blue tories, having presumably decided that the votes of ignorant, terrified reactionaries were more important than things like ethics, facts, justice, human rights and dignity .
Putting violent men into women's prisons, allowing men into women's rape support groups, allowing men into women only events, allowing men to use women only swimming pools, allowing men to get women's awards...THAT'S violence against women and girls. Stop promoting men into women's protected spaces.
Literally only one of these things actually violence. If I’m in an SA support group with you, that’s not *violence*. If I swim in the same pool as you, that’s not *violence*. Winning an award is not *violence*. Like do you actually hear yourself? Have you never experienced violence? 1/
Your definition of “violence” just seems to amount to me just being in a room with you. You don’t object to my behaviour, you object to my *existence*. And when that objection leads to me getting arrested for doing what any other woman would do - THAT is violence.
Your violence is on show, because you're a man who'll never understand even one tiny thing about being a woman nor why her spaces should be protected.
In sexual assault groups, women in distress who have been raped or suffered violence at the hands of a man certainly do not want to share their story with a man or a d*cked person. Respect women's protected spaces.
Men not respecting women's boundaries is violence. And here you are, admitting that you couldn't care less that women don't want you there. Like all predators....
Sorry Nadia, I know you mean well, but Labour has become a brand name. The Greens stand for everything that Labour once did, so please think about joining them. I'm sure they'd welcome you with open arms. ❤️
Unfortunately, it's not our government. They are entirely owned by malign interests who deal in fear and hate to keep people from identifying the real causes of stress in our society.
Nadia, you said “violence against women”. Are you seriously including men in that observation? Because that’s what it looks like to anyone that’s not insane. It makes no sense. The women you insult as being “transphobes” do not bash up men dressed as women.
Do you think that trans women don’t get bashed? Because we do, actually at a higher rate than cis women. www.theguardian.com/society/2020... And weirdly, the problem you seem to have with this is not the violence, but the fact she’s calling it violence against women.
Women are biological/natal females. Are you talking about trans women (biological/natal males)? Inclusion at any cost should not come at the expense of biological women. Biological women need protected spaces free from males.
So where do I go if I experience domestic abuse or sexual assault? Because there aren’t any shelters for us. Nowhere to go. My safety is what, an acceptable sacrifice to you? Just because I’m not a cis woman, do I deserve to be raped?
Create your own spaces, specific to your particular needs, and stop invading women's spaces.
Nice sentiment. Will you be pressuring the ministers that there should be full parliamentary scrutiny of the EHRC and their advice. And asking the ministers why they decided to ignore the advice of two parliamentary committees and appoint another TERF as chair of the EHRC?
