Trump swore he’d run the biggest deportation operation in history. He’s (thankfully) deporting fewer people than Obama, his base is furious, and he has no idea what to do.
Trump swore he’d run the biggest deportation operation in history. He’s (thankfully) deporting fewer people than Obama, his base is furious, and he has no idea what to do.
Why won't you call out Israel and their genocide, Pakman?
Because it is not his obligation to do so. David is Argentinian/American, not Israeli, and his show is about American progressive politics. Do you ask every African descendant person why they don’t call out the genocide in Sudan, or do you just harass Jews you believe are ‘white’?
The Democratic party's unwavering support for the far-right Israli government is at the center of progressive political disucssion.
At YOUR center, maybe, but if you actually watch/listen to David’s show, you’d know he’s no fan of, or in political agreement with, Netanyahu, and said he doesn’t believe peace is possible with Netanyahu and Hamas in charge of their respective territories. What else do you expect him to say?
To call out a blatant genocide and AIPAC for buying off most of our representatives in government. It is the modern litmus test of the left and he is failing.
Yeah, the extreme left needs to, respectfully, fuck off with litmus/purity tests. That’s exactly why we lose elections. Not a single litmus by so-called leftists has saved a single Palestinian, and it never will. Let’s work towards real solutions instead of grandstanding. Respectfully.
We lost the election, in large part, because Kamala wouldn't differentiate herself from Biden's horrific stance on Israel. Young people did not turn out for her in the blue wall like they did in New York in the mayoral race.
So did the Gaza protest voters/nonvoters lose the election for Harris?
She probably would have won Wisconsin. Wouldn't call that the sole reason. Failed to mobilize people over a variety of issues.
Was it 'in large part" or not really?
And this opinion just isn’t reflected by the data. The election was decided by around 200,000 votes, and by almost all polls, foreign policy was consistently at the bottom of the list of concerns for most voters. The internet isn’t real life, TJ. You’re living in an echo chamber.
You elitist, centrists think you have a great pulse of where public opinion is, but you guys have been so wrong for several election cycles now. Move over, its time for real progressives to be in charge of this party.
If pragmatism, and not ignoring data/literal history is elitist centrism to you, I don’t think you know what ‘progressive’ really means.
Exactly, it was at the bottom of list of concerns among VOTERS - key word VOTERS. Many people stayed home because of the disastrous, out of touch Democrats which included their foreign policy. I voted, but I don't shame those who didn't vote for a candidate that offered them nothing.
And to that point, what solutions do you suggest? How do American progressives democratically get Hamas and Netanyahu out of power in order to try to enact some kind of sustainable two-state solution? Because using litmus tests got us Trump again, so…
The solution is to stop making Israel the number 1 recipient of US arms and to actually call them out on their genocide; we have leverage. It's really not difficult. One state solution is the only solution. Two states is a totally unrealistic pipe dream pushed by both sides for the last 80 years.
So you really don’t get it, do you? Purity tests like that are why we lost, bud. Unpragmatic single issue voters are bad for democracy. And if you really think Israel shouldn’t even be allowed to exist, THAT is 100% Jew hatred by you.
I dont think any Ethnostate should exist. Israel should exist, just not as an ethnostate. What you are doing right here right here is conflating all Jewish people with the state of Israel, and THAT is anti semitism.
You think you’re on some moral high ground, but you’re unironically repeating Soviet antisemitic propaganda like the useful idiots Iran wants you all to be. Jews are Indigenous to the Levant, you need to accept that, and get over it. Israel isn’t going anywhere, and neither should Palestine.
...and Obama managed to do it without tanking the agriculture, construction, hospitality, and caregiving industries. Our economy has yet to reap the whirlwind that the President and his enablers in Congress have set in motion.
There’s only one thing to do. Transition your policy from focusing on outcomes to focusing on process. Rather than deporting the most immigrants (bc they can’t be found), they’ll just torture the ones they can find.
Sure he does. Illegally arrest and deport 70-year-old citizens who look like an "illegal".
And he didn't need to suspend due process to do so.
Obama was the GOAT when it came to deporting illegal immigrants. 😆
Maybe just tell him he's deported more people than anyone else and he'll sit there happily in his diaper and we can have a moment peace.
Riddle me this: If they're hell-bent on deporting people and they could care less about due process then why all the immigration camps?
Because they are for us. After a short time in a camp they will ask us,”wouldn’t you rather be picking strawberries and lettuce?” That is how they will solve the labor shortage created by deportations.
He's building concentration camps. That's what he's doing. He's got his own Dachau in Southern Florida.
He could resign the presidency, that would be something he can do. But of course that doesn’t stand the chance of an ice cube in hell of ever happening.
Just deport everyone. Can't be upset about immigrants if no one lives here.
Just deport more Americans. If its just about numbers?
how is that possible with all the ICE stuff? jfc Obama what were you doing
I looked all this up, and basically a lot of the volume was Obama formally deporting recent border crossers. Obama also--perhaps ironically--primarily went after convicted criminals after that. For all Trump is indiscriminately rounding people up, the pushback he's getting slows it down some.
Basically if Trump had been above-board and discreet he might have been more successful, because his brutality is getting mass protest versus Obama mostly only the Hispanic/Latin population was protesting. (And no I don't feel great analyzing such things, but, details are details I guess.)
The only solution that he has is getting his aids to talk a big game in Fox News interviews, do these big “shows of force” ready-made for TV like having armored cars patrol soccer fields in LA, and promote an alligator-infested concentration camp. It’s more propaganda, but it’s also still so evil.
David - I do think you’re at risk with this administration. It’s only been 7 months. They’re getting warmed up. It may be prudent to have a ‘go bag’ handy and lawyers on speed dial… just in case shit goes down. Always plan for the worst and hope for the best.
Well, if he were strong he could tell them the truth, that there are just not that many people who should be deported. Of course there is zero chance of that.
My guess is he's gone to play golf.
It's really gross to compare what Trump is doing now to Obama's deportations at the border. Yeah, I'm not a fan of the Obama policies either, but it's gross to conflate the two.
If he is deporting fewer people, why are ice agents being shot at?
Or do you just mean fewer people in 7 months than obama in 8 years? Keep up that misinformation for attention.
Trump has arrested more but deported fewer per month. That’s because Trump is rounding up innocent people and can’t deport them. So wasteful. Trump and his cabinet are fucking idiots 😂😂😂
Deportations are also down at the border because it's closed. Obama didn't use ice in the interior to the point they got shot at, because nobody before Biden opened the flood gates of illegals. But i agree all politicians are fucking idiots, but I'd rather cheer on a bull than a bowl of pudding.
Don’t spectate on people’s lives like it’s a game. Get a life; then maybe you can respect others’ lives. If you need to be part of a winning team so bad, maybe try playing sports.
Did you mean speculation? Like how you just did with me not having a life? I dont need to win in politics because im winning in my own life. Maybe take your own advice because you sound like a loser who would be worth spectating.
He is doing everything for theatre… he’s just a narcissistic sociopathic despot, who’s incapable of doing anything normal…
Which is also what happened in his first term. It's two-fold: 1. Everything has to be a show for him, it has to 'look good' over being effective. 2. It's the GOP. They literally are so bad at doing anything they can't help but fail harder than even the most neolib of Dems at even this.
Bingo!
His base may be furious, but they won't do anything. Cult, remember? They're already blaming everyone and anyone else. Soon, there will be a false flag to divert attention from failing numbers. It's what the gop always does. Get ready for an 'attack.' I'd put money on it. I predicted Iran in April.
Human migration has been a constant since our species first gallivanted out of Africa. It's an essential part of our survival strategy and you can't terrorize people into giving it up. We need to establish humane, practical and efficient policies to deal with this reality.
That's gonna change. With Homan, Noem and Miller running it, and all their new money, things are about to get really really ugly
He does these big illegal moves like kidnapping people to cover up just how utterly incompetent he is at legally deporting people which if done legally like previous Presidents have done, lead to more people being deported.
Why do you think he is having his personal, masked gestopo army, snatch up more ordinary hardworking people than the criminals, drug dealers and gang members that they should be rounding up???
Because actually deporting them out of the country was never the goal cruelty is his point and modern day slavery. This is intentions.
Don’t poke the bear on this one. We should be more thankful he’s failing rather than a point of mockery. Mass deportation would be a catastrophe for our social fabric
He could treat himself with a special intracranial pill, following his role model's example back in 45! Very effective medicine with long term benefits.
Funny, we don't see Lutnick that much anymore.. But here are the pack of "rats 🐀and suckers🦇" reunited around their "deranged" evil master!! Smiles of opportunists and senseless, unaware and unconscious minds!! Mental debility, no less..
Trump💰👿 and his opportunistic SELF-serving toadies (and cunning scheming contributor$$$) !! And SO stupid supporters and .. deranged voters!!
The "beautiful.." LEGACY (images) of the very great D.J. Trump💰💸, next in line for a Nobel Prize🙏hopefully. Yes, HE's BEING VERY UNFAIRLY TREATED.. (Thank you also to stupid air-headed Trumpsters, FoxNews and Trump's servile spineless minions also of his cult).
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