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David Pakman @davidpakman.bsky.social

Is the Epstein chaos a setup to get rid of Trump without directly confronting him? The “there is no list” excuse looks like loyalty — but fuels MAGA rage. Perfect way to break the cult from inside.

jul 14, 2025, 1:38 pm • 408 29

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Judy @bsjcr.bsky.social

Interesting 🤔

jul 14, 2025, 1:38 pm • 1 0 • view
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Patrik @patrik-tanner.bsky.social

The Epstein list story needs to be kept front and center. It seems to be the only thing "pulling back the curtain" for most MAGA supporters.

jul 14, 2025, 2:12 pm • 0 0 • view
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Mick @mickeason.bsky.social

They'll release a set of files with 0 mention of Trump or anyone else with power

jul 14, 2025, 11:28 pm • 0 0 • view
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douglas0110.bsky.social @douglas0110.bsky.social

I thought the same thing. It’s a way the republicans can dump him without alienating his base. They are going to have to make a move soon otherwise 2026 will be a bloodbath for them and they know it. Of course Trump is too stupid to figure it out. I am sure Miller will tell him what to do.

jul 14, 2025, 2:26 pm • 0 0 • view
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julesb2183.bsky.social @julesb2183.bsky.social

I've had that thought as well.

jul 14, 2025, 5:01 pm • 1 0 • view
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sixfootfourman @sixfootfourman.bsky.social

Makes sense. JD Vance feels like the real plan anyway.

jul 14, 2025, 1:44 pm • 1 0 • view
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JULI @jwoody180.bsky.social

I had that thought this morning too! It’s spinning out of control now.

jul 14, 2025, 2:31 pm • 0 0 • view
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funghost.bsky.social @funghost.bsky.social

Good question!!

jul 14, 2025, 5:05 pm • 0 0 • view
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Margi in WA still upset 2024 @upset2024.bsky.social

I'm not sure about that. I know two MAGAs and both just laughed, one said, "Why are Libs so upset about a list? Most of us don't care bc there are more important things to get done." The other said, "The Epstein file is a hoax you guys (meaning we Liberals)came up with."

jul 14, 2025, 1:46 pm • 3 0 • view
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Java @derekjavaphotog.com

This is literally what Trump set up with his crazy spin post. MAGAs believe literally anything Trump says. Serial liar, but they believe anything he says. Kind of weird. I don’t understand the depth of Trump’s con.

jul 14, 2025, 2:13 pm • 1 0 • view
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cerebrosdreams.bsky.social @cerebrosdreams.bsky.social

No. It is not to say Trump isn't guilty as hell of multiple conspiracies, but I think it most likely that Trump is simply caught up in conflicting lies. The bigger question, insofar as I see it, is whether the list will ultimately leak somewhere, and what will happen if it does.

jul 15, 2025, 2:43 pm • 0 0 • view
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Quentin Quarantino @quentinquarantino.bsky.social

I think we gonna see some "accidents" soon. Just like some of Putin's "good friends" have sudden "accidents".

jul 14, 2025, 1:50 pm • 5 0 • view
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fetchquesting @fetchquesting.bsky.social

Doubt this will get rid of him anyway. He could murder someone on 5th avenue….blah blah blah….

jul 14, 2025, 1:56 pm • 0 0 • view
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HumphsDad @hunphreysdad.bsky.social

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jul 14, 2025, 1:41 pm • 1 0 • view
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Mary Sweeney @mcsweeney.bsky.social

Vance had been silent on the issue.

jul 14, 2025, 1:46 pm • 2 0 • view
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HumphsDad @hunphreysdad.bsky.social

Biding his time, quietly watching & waiting to stick the knife in when the time is right, no doubt.

jul 14, 2025, 1:49 pm • 1 0 • view
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XODUS @digitaldiatribes.bsky.social

"There is no list" Because if there would be, and it would be (even partially) public, then you cant blackmail all those people anymore.

jul 14, 2025, 2:02 pm • 0 0 • view
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Fear None @fearnonluvall.bsky.social

I think Bondi replaced Gaetz just for this very reason - to bury the Epstein file. Allegedly Gaetz was summoned to DC over the weekend with rumors of a Summer recess appointment. If true, don't be surprised if there is a cabinet reshuffle before mid terms to look normal.

jul 14, 2025, 1:43 pm • 1 0 • view
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Dahlia 🏳️‍⚧️ @ohdahlia.bsky.social

His whole post was about how his side is imploding so the “the left are imploding” line really took me out

jul 14, 2025, 2:24 pm • 0 0 • view
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smartfonefan @smartfonefan.bsky.social

It's really hard to tell. You can't trust anything these people say at all?

jul 14, 2025, 1:46 pm • 2 0 • view
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bgdvvllr @bgdvvllr.bsky.social

Giving too much credit. Trump is bad liar and always has been. His base is just now realizing it now that he’s talking about something they care about.

jul 14, 2025, 1:48 pm • 3 0 • view
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Nek Sramtid @neksramtid.bsky.social

Install Vance and calm down the waters but keep all the policies. I think that this might be the plan. Push the old man aside and go with the tech bros choice. This backfires because no one likes jd.

jul 14, 2025, 9:30 pm • 0 0 • view
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toddman42.bsky.social @toddman42.bsky.social

These cultists will believe anything at this point. Trump’s people just haven’t come up with the right spin yet.

jul 14, 2025, 1:49 pm • 3 0 • view
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Gregarious Aquarius @phoxee.bsky.social

No wonder we haven't heard much from Vance. He's preparing for his promotion.

jul 14, 2025, 2:09 pm • 0 0 • view
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Gordon Vincent He/Him @gordonvincent.bsky.social

Or is Putin having a hard time getting the diet polonium soda delivered?

jul 14, 2025, 2:54 pm • 0 0 • view
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scally103.bsky.social @scally103.bsky.social

Sounds good but I’m not sure. Bondi was in Nassau county, Long Island speaking with Bruce Blakeman at a police recruitment speech that really turned into a Trump rally the way she was praising him n using worshipping hisname. ICE is about to hit Nassua hard soon. Real soon.

jul 14, 2025, 4:54 pm • 0 0 • view
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westvillagecrank.bsky.social @westvillagecrank.bsky.social

It is all bread and circuses. Meanwhile, Pettyman Smallcock controls the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government. He might stroke out, but he is in control until respiration ceases.

jul 14, 2025, 1:40 pm • 1 0 • view
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victorlazzlo.bsky.social @victorlazzlo.bsky.social

How can we help?

jul 14, 2025, 2:09 pm • 2 0 • view
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Adam Gillis @adamg0013.bsky.social

So pedophilia is actually where most maga crosses the line. Weird I thought some would just rationalize it. But they aren't. Good for them for finally believing what we told them 9 years ago.

jul 14, 2025, 1:51 pm • 1 0 • view
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mdit.bsky.social @mdit.bsky.social

Nah. It's incompetent watergate. The coverup being done so incompetently it finally wakes some of the cult. Whether they go back to sleep or not.. time will tell. My guess is Ghislaine will testify that all the clients are democrats, and Trump suppressed it to save Ivanka from vaccines lol.

jul 14, 2025, 1:46 pm • 1 0 • view
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Avalanche Andy @avalanche-andy.bsky.social

Nah. It's corruption and incompetence, not 4D chess.

jul 14, 2025, 1:42 pm • 10 0 • view
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Big T @bigt303.bsky.social

I can't think of a single thing involving Trump in the last 10 years (maybe longer?) where this hasn't been the punchline.

jul 14, 2025, 2:44 pm • 0 0 • view
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El Capitán @elrod85.bsky.social

He laughs all the way to the bank though.

jul 14, 2025, 3:01 pm • 0 0 • view
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Avalanche Andy @avalanche-andy.bsky.social

In the next few years, when he dies🤞, that will all mean nothing. His legacy will be misery and nothing else. What a shit life.

jul 14, 2025, 4:11 pm • 0 0 • view
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Big T @bigt303.bsky.social

Absolutely true, which is also useful in understanding why he does anything.

jul 14, 2025, 4:34 pm • 0 0 • view
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Virginia Stands with Ukraine! 🇺🇸🇺🇦 @virginiat.bsky.social

I’ll believe it when I see it really happen…

jul 14, 2025, 1:39 pm • 1 0 • view
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OneBluCat @onebluecat.bsky.social

Trump is burying these crimes absolutely. Consequences be damned. What will he do with Maxwell is the question.

jul 14, 2025, 1:47 pm • 1 0 • view
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El Capitán @elrod85.bsky.social

Undermining maga and Trump is fine by me, but let's not forget there are scores of victims of abuse; they deserve justice.

jul 14, 2025, 3:02 pm • 1 0 • view
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Fraa Paul @fraapaul.bsky.social

No. This is just what happens when you get a bunch of conspiracists together for a long enough time.

jul 14, 2025, 1:40 pm • 19 0 • view
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n1ck_knack @n1ck-knack.bsky.social

I’m surprised it took so long honestly. It’s not like it’s the first time Trump has broken a promise and backtracked

jul 14, 2025, 2:55 pm • 2 0 • view
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Mimey @lordmimey.bsky.social

Nah, you're putting more logic into this than it deserves, David. These are all backstabbing, greedy, selfish asswipes who only care about themselves. Problem really is that the cult can't and won't ever connect the dots that Trump is the center of it all, and that he's the one at fault.

jul 14, 2025, 3:33 pm • 1 0 • view
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funghost.bsky.social @funghost.bsky.social

You could be right. But it’s also possible that some MAGA are actually hurting bc of his economic policies, and thus they become more open to a conspiracy theory against him.

jul 14, 2025, 5:07 pm • 0 0 • view
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Mimey @lordmimey.bsky.social

I get what you are saying, the problem is the cult is very good at blame-shifting. They can easily be convinced (or convince themselves) that "Oh Trump's policies aren't failing, it's that the Dems/Leftists are getting in the way of them! He's being failed by everyone else, he's not at fault!"

jul 14, 2025, 6:27 pm • 3 0 • view
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funghost.bsky.social @funghost.bsky.social

Good point. 👍

jul 14, 2025, 7:11 pm • 0 0 • view
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The Slow Bat @theslowbat.bsky.social

Thinking the same. This gives GOP perfect reason to 25th his ass without alienating the base. And if JD dunce releases the files immediately with Trump's name on it, it will be a huge win for GOP. So whether they 25th him or not, it's still bad for the country.

jul 14, 2025, 2:04 pm • 0 0 • view
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therealspartacus.bsky.social @therealspartacus.bsky.social

I think they're so used to bamboozling their followers that this backlash came as a shock. But it was inevitable that after ten years of Maga the thrill is wearing off for some of them. Especially as the reality of life under Project 2025 is starting to sink in.

jul 14, 2025, 2:01 pm • 0 0 • view
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Upstate Dem @upstatedem.bsky.social

Vance is conveniently quiet on this topic, perhaps waiting in the wings and shopping for new carpets.

jul 14, 2025, 1:53 pm • 2 0 • view
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Paul Eric Morris @paulmorris.bsky.social

It's more likely they're all just morons but I hope for this result 😜

jul 14, 2025, 1:46 pm • 1 0 • view
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Louisa Morgan @louisamorgan.bsky.social

Seems organic to me. The con is collapsing of its own weight.

jul 14, 2025, 1:42 pm • 5 0 • view
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Mary Sweeney @mcsweeney.bsky.social

I want this to be true.

jul 14, 2025, 1:45 pm • 7 0 • view
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Louisa Morgan @louisamorgan.bsky.social

Same. I’d like to be able to sleep at night again.

jul 14, 2025, 1:49 pm • 6 0 • view
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Steltloper @steltloper.bsky.social

That's a scary thought!

jul 14, 2025, 2:16 pm • 0 0 • view
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Grombley @sweatband09.bsky.social

Are you saying that Trump is setting himself up?

jul 14, 2025, 1:56 pm • 0 0 • view
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kruthjj @kruthjj.bsky.social

We can only hope.

jul 14, 2025, 1:41 pm • 1 0 • view
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The Subsequent Mrs. de Winter @notrebecca.bsky.social

I think that they aren't competent enough to have thought this out; they probably expected MAGA Dingbats to fall in line but to them the pedo conspiracy theories are a way of life.

jul 14, 2025, 1:45 pm • 1 0 • view
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PCYK @pcyk.bsky.social

J D Vance is awfully quiet.

jul 14, 2025, 3:01 pm • 0 0 • view
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JJKettlewell @jjkettlewell.com

If you lie all the time eventually your lies catch up to you.

jul 14, 2025, 1:42 pm • 13 0 • view
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NYT is MAGA (derogatory) @icevice.bsky.social

Considering how old Trump is seems like might never catch up

jul 14, 2025, 4:06 pm • 1 0 • view
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The Jade Ape @jadeape.bsky.social

They made their bed, now they have to lie in it. Of Republican lawmakers wanted an ounce of their power back, they would use this to kick out Trump for good

jul 14, 2025, 10:39 pm • 0 0 • view