I think underlying this mentality, which imo is widespread and subconscious for many, is the idea that Trump is part of a big movement, so even if he dies the movement keeps going strong, but Biden was completely alone and liked by no one, so his admin would die without him since it was *just* him.
If Joe Biden has no fans, then I am no longer alive.
Co-signed
Unironically the most progressive amd pro-Labour President since Lyndon B. Johnson. A final glorious last charge of the blue labour aristocracy; before it crashed into the dirt of white grievance and class treason.
Inshallah there shall be a second coming
"Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line" ...you'll never have a Trump figure in the Liberal leaning political party, the disarray is a feature...not a bug.
Meanwhile us history-knowers are mentally prepping big bowls of popcorn (and then much more serious things) for when the GOP devolves into faction warfare over whatever daddy left them in the will. Vance is next in line but he doesn't have the force of will to unite all racists under his banner.
When really the exact opposite is true. Trump is the head of a personality cult, so his death will lead to chaos and a bad scramble for power. Whereas Biden dying and power passing to Harris would have been so seamless many would barely notice.
I meant “mad scramble” but bad, too.
Well that's the other thing, I genuinely believe people felt threatened by Biden's lack of ego. The change to Harris would have been seamless, but it threatened their vision of masculinity. "Goddamnit we want the guy in charge who's Strong and Tough enough to make it all about him!"
I hate that I think you’re right.
Yeah, and people discount how much of "getting rid of Biden" was "wait he really meant Harris should he President??"
This is a fucking bullshit thing to believe, to be clear, but a lot of people do.
The press both believe and get to manufacture it. Even when Biden is popular or Trump is unpopular you can go visit the Ohio diner where everyone will love Trump forever, and present it as the authentic grassroots support of the Volk.
Can’t wait for the future so we can see just how much of this was just a cult of personality being enabled Avery step of the way
Oh quite a lot of it is cult ot personality I'd say. But we also need to contend with the fact that this is something the public will want to take if they're offered it, so we need two political parties responsible enough not to offer it.
he's mance rayder, he managed to unite the entire conspiracy/woo-woosphere under a single banner that is entirely predicated on their devotion to him.
*liked by no one in the national political press
or the understanding that trump is president to do immaterial things like paving and ribbon cutting, but dems have to actually do real things regarding economic policy, international diplomacy, etc
maybe, though it might be the opposite - Biden is an interchangeable cog in a center-left complex. dying is the most "dramatic" and therefore interesting thing he could do. Biden's show was boring! if Trump dies, the Trump show is over, and the Trump is the star of that show, which must go on...
This is correct, people wanted excitement. There was this massive sentiment leading into the 2020 election that "we just want politics to be boring again!" and it was a total lie. People want politics to be exciting and full of edge of your seat thrills, even if they *think* they prefer boring.
Biden had more primary voters in 2020 than Obama had in 2008
Biden: 19 million Obama: 17.5 million Clinton (2016): 16.9 million Sanders (2016): 13.2 million Sanders (2020): 9.6 million
By the way, Clinton (2008) was 17.4 million, which isn't shabby at all
Biden (2024) was 14.5 million
When the 2028 primary winner self-describes as a Obama-Biden Democrat, this is why
This is a position held by a number of liberal authors and it really makes one question their motives and critical reasoning. I think they have internalized Trump and MAGAs propaganda bullshit in ways they don’t even realize they have.
ironic really since the reverse is much more true, Trump's cabinet makes no sense without him as just one example, vs Biden's which would have carried on under a President Harris
Yeah, Trump is the only thing keeping all these disparate groups of maniacs stitched together. Once he’s gone, they’ll eat each other.
