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glory-b.bsky.social @glory-b.bsky.social

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aug 13, 2025, 6:19 am • 10 1

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Stove @stevejord.bsky.social

I spent a lot of time trying to convince people to vote for Kamala even though she didn’t perfectly align with them. And that take is still bullshit. Thinking dems incompetence didn’t play a part in ~all this bullshit~ is head in the sand thinking that will lead to continued losses

aug 13, 2025, 12:42 pm • 28 3 • view
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marnier.bsky.social @marnier.bsky.social

Totally agree. Lots of Dems had a pet policy that had to be enacted or prevented from being enacted. If that wasn’t promised, they stayed home on Election Day or had a protest vote. Stupid and entitled…. and maddening to hear them complain now.

aug 13, 2025, 4:28 pm • 24 2 • view
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wyit.bsky.social @wyit.bsky.social

Perhaps this is an overestimating the power of the Democratic Party. Only 24%of registered voters were registered as Democrats in 2024 and that number is falling. We need community level organizing to rebuild the Democratic Party and fast. But where is that happening?

aug 13, 2025, 5:07 pm • 1 0 • view
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glory-b.bsky.social @glory-b.bsky.social

www.gelliottmorris.com/p/democrats-...

aug 13, 2025, 5:23 pm • 1 0 • view
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wyit.bsky.social @wyit.bsky.social

The text in the Gallup article about this chart says it is a tie between Republicans and Democrats (range of error). Democrats need to win and beat Trumpism. That's going to require building a strong base. We can't ignore the current weaknesses in the Democratic Party.

aug 13, 2025, 5:36 pm • 0 0 • view
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marnier.bsky.social @marnier.bsky.social

I’m a former independent who registered as a Dem to be able to vote in my primary. I’ve stayed, but don’t agree with everything. And I’ve had red lines in the past. That’s a luxury we can’t afford. I think/hope dems will kvetch but vote in 26 so we have a democracy in 28.

aug 13, 2025, 5:53 pm • 1 0 • view
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glory-b.bsky.social @glory-b.bsky.social

I dont buy the media hype about this. Charles Gaba reports that Dems have overperformed by 15 points in special elections since Trump took office. Gallup says more people are now identifying as Dems than Rs. Right leaning Rasmussen predicts Dems will outperform Rs in the next general election.

aug 13, 2025, 5:21 pm • 1 0 • view
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wyit.bsky.social @wyit.bsky.social

Gallup reports "the Democratic Party’s 34% favorable rating is the lowest Gallup has measured for the group in its trend dating back to 1992. The prior low was 36% in November 2014" I agree it is nice that some progressive Democrats have done well. Feels good but doesn't fix the bigger problem.

aug 13, 2025, 5:31 pm • 0 0 • view
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glory-b.bsky.social @glory-b.bsky.social

As I've pointed out, the problem is white voters. Dems haven't won a majority of white voters since the passage of the Civil Rights &Voting Rights Acts. Not a coincidence. They will be an ever present problem, made worse by Obama's presidency. Read this book...

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aug 13, 2025, 5:47 pm • 0 0 • view
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wyit.bsky.social @wyit.bsky.social

Totally agree with you, white voters are the problem for Democrats and thanks for the book recommendation.

aug 13, 2025, 5:58 pm • 1 0 • view
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glory-b.bsky.social @glory-b.bsky.social

Not necessarily progressive, they were a spectrum of Dem options. The plurality say THEY WILL VOTE for Dems. It's predicted we'll do better than Rs. Good enough for me.

aug 13, 2025, 5:43 pm • 1 0 • view
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marnier.bsky.social @marnier.bsky.social

About same no of gop registrants. In both cases, those are a lot of votes. My campaign to Dems would be pretty simple. Get off your ass and vote or you get a monster. At the end of the day, if folks are too dense to grok this, I can’t keep grinding my teeth. We like Canada. Je parle français.

aug 13, 2025, 5:42 pm • 2 0 • view
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wyit.bsky.social @wyit.bsky.social

Canada is attractive.

aug 13, 2025, 6:00 pm • 1 0 • view
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marnier.bsky.social @marnier.bsky.social

Ikr!

aug 13, 2025, 6:02 pm • 0 0 • view
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marnier.bsky.social @marnier.bsky.social

This is not hard. If you have the means or time, support solid candidates who can win. And here’s the really easy part….vote for the decent human being.

aug 13, 2025, 4:31 pm • 20 2 • view
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Caryn Hunt @carynhunt.bsky.social

Fight like hell in the primaries but vote for whoever will get you closer to world you want for yourself and your kids in the general. But, yes, don't stay home. Democracies are of and by the people. We have to fight to make sure they are for the people.

aug 13, 2025, 7:44 pm • 8 1 • view
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Old Guys Rule @seniormoment4.bsky.social

I've never voted for a 100% perfect candidate...and I never will. Expecting perfection is childlike thinking.

aug 13, 2025, 6:03 pm • 1 0 • view
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Stove @stevejord.bsky.social

You’re misinterpreting what I’m saying. Obviously I voted for the significantly better candidate. But all that aside, dems have a lot of work to do. And they don’t even seem to know it

aug 13, 2025, 7:26 pm • 0 0 • view
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Old Guys Rule @seniormoment4.bsky.social

What "dem incompetence" specifically?

aug 13, 2025, 7:54 pm • 0 0 • view
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Stove @stevejord.bsky.social

For starters, their lack of messaging in what should be the easiest opposition message in history. They’re also are incompetent at being an opposition party, unable to fight with the ferocity the moment calls for. If they fought, they’d gain support. Instead, they’re wet noodles

aug 13, 2025, 8:14 pm • 0 0 • view
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glory-b.bsky.social @glory-b.bsky.social

Stop the "Dem messaging" trope. People know the policies we'd implement. Our policies win when presented as ballot measures. The white people just don't want to vote for the party with black people in it. Dems haven't won a majority of white voters since passing the Civil Rights Act. Coincidence?

aug 13, 2025, 10:13 pm • 1 0 • view
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Stove @stevejord.bsky.social

This is a great example of what you’re arguing against lol. You’re essentially saying voters are too stupid to vote for people who support their policy positions. Everyone who doesn’t support dems is racist. Fucking horrible messaging that will win over no one

aug 14, 2025, 12:14 am • 0 0 • view
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Stove @stevejord.bsky.social

“They love our policies but hate us as people. But we don’t have a messaging problem” lmao

aug 14, 2025, 12:15 am • 0 0 • view
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glory-b.bsky.social @glory-b.bsky.social

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aug 14, 2025, 12:16 am • 0 0 • view
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Old Guys Rule @seniormoment4.bsky.social

When religious and racial bigotry is the central organizing principle of the GOP, messaging better won't impact anything.

aug 14, 2025, 12:59 am • 1 0 • view
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Stove @stevejord.bsky.social

You’re messaging is “not voting for dems makes you a religious fanatic and/or bigot”, while dems continue to lose despite having widely popular policy positions. Hmmm wonder what’s up there

aug 14, 2025, 1:01 am • 0 0 • view
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glory-b.bsky.social @glory-b.bsky.social

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aug 14, 2025, 1:45 am • 0 0 • view
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Old Guys Rule @seniormoment4.bsky.social

The Birther Movement, Tea Party, build a wall/ban all Muslims and the attacks on CRT, DEI, Woke, public education, and Blacks are eating the dogs conservative narrative for the last 17 years are all based on religious and racial bigotry.

aug 14, 2025, 1:18 am • 0 0 • view
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Old Guys Rule @seniormoment4.bsky.social

Nope. Observing that the majority of Republican votes are due to religious and racial bigotry makes messaging irrelevant. Real economy voters and real deficit voters and real law and order voters ALL vote for democrats.

aug 14, 2025, 1:15 am • 0 0 • view
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Old Guys Rule @seniormoment4.bsky.social

Any specifics? Just being negative about people ignoring the obvious isn't helpful.

aug 13, 2025, 9:11 pm • 0 0 • view
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Scott Linn @ocelotz3.bsky.social

"Perfect is the enemy of good." Voltaire-ish.

aug 13, 2025, 6:28 pm • 0 0 • view
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Stove @stevejord.bsky.social

I think you’re wildly misinterpreting the point I made

aug 13, 2025, 7:25 pm • 0 0 • view
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Scott Linn @ocelotz3.bsky.social

I'm not. Just a general observation supporting your point.

aug 13, 2025, 7:36 pm • 0 0 • view
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Natalie | 📷 @xinyi05868y.bsky.social

I understand your frustration, but dismissing it as nonsense doesn't change the reality we face. Sometimes, it's all about making the best choice possible in the moment, even if it's not perfect.🙃

aug 13, 2025, 3:16 pm • 0 0 • view