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Emma Evans @trance.bsky.social

Hey nerds, were there any concerns that automobiles could have feelings back in the early days of their invention

aug 26, 2025, 11:02 am • 23 1

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Dan J Blain @danjblain.dev

To paraphrase Arthur C. Clarke: any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from biology.

aug 26, 2025, 11:50 am • 0 0 • view
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Emma Evans @trance.bsky.social

I'm not aware of it if so, and while lots of shit has been anthropomorphized by us, I think it's the fact that 'AI' better called LLM, uses our language and because it seems like it talks to us with intent...

aug 26, 2025, 11:04 am • 1 0 • view
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Cali Deathtwigs @digitalwatches.bsky.social

A friend recommended the anime "Frieren" to me, and the titular character made the argument that the fantasy specied called "demons" shouldn't be treated as people because they prey on humans, and their adoption of human communication, both language and emotional cues, is mimicry toward this end

aug 26, 2025, 11:15 am • 1 0 • view
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Cali Deathtwigs @digitalwatches.bsky.social

At the time, it struck me as a grotesque argument. An excuse to dehumanize. I've come around to it by thinking of analogy to corporations using LLMs. LLMs are basically good natural language processing, a kind of convincing mimicry, and corporations have emerged as the foremost predator of humans

aug 26, 2025, 11:15 am • 0 0 • view
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Cali Deathtwigs @digitalwatches.bsky.social

I think the point of this thought experiment wasn't to say "some humans aren't people", but "what if something that only wants to eat you was also really good at manipulating you via communication skills?" An LLM is just a computer program, a capability. But attached to a corporation it's a "demon"

aug 26, 2025, 11:15 am • 2 0 • view
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Cali Deathtwigs @digitalwatches.bsky.social

Humans are pretty easy to convince to anthropomorphize a thing, but sapience is a strong strategy for increasing that tendency and a flexible language capability can be very effectively tuned to manipulate people. We're already seeing some of the effects of that. This is scary without being AGI

aug 26, 2025, 11:18 am • 0 0 • view
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Tom @stealthisbook.bsky.social

I remember there being freakouts about furbies. Which seemed fair enough at the time since those things were creepy. Nobody knew that if they'd made them just a little more personable we'd have probably spawned a subculture and inoculated society against the nice chatbots

aug 26, 2025, 11:12 am • 0 0 • view
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Tamara Keel @tamslick.bsky.social

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aug 26, 2025, 11:05 am • 6 1 • view
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Tamara Keel @tamslick.bsky.social

Turns out he was just patient zero... www.scientificamerican.com/article/goog...

aug 26, 2025, 11:09 am • 1 0 • view
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𝘐𝘴𝘢𝘢𝘤 𝘗𝘪𝘨𝘰𝘵𝘵 @ikepigott.com

There were concerns that if the trains traveled too fast, the people onboard would asphyxiate because they wouldn’t be able to breathe. So there were a lot of things they didn’t understand.

aug 26, 2025, 11:06 am • 16 1 • view
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Emma Evans @trance.bsky.social

I remember reading something about that which is both hilarious and interesting

aug 26, 2025, 11:06 am • 1 0 • view
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My Bloody Vinyl Time @mybloodyvinyltime.bsky.social

Like Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang?

aug 26, 2025, 11:06 am • 2 0 • view
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Numbereightball @numbereightball.bsky.social

Herbie

aug 26, 2025, 11:10 am • 2 0 • view
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My Bloody Vinyl Time @mybloodyvinyltime.bsky.social

Yeah. Like Christine!

aug 26, 2025, 11:14 am • 1 0 • view
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Numbereightball @numbereightball.bsky.social

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aug 26, 2025, 11:18 am • 0 0 • view
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ajc-mis.bsky.social @ajc-mis.bsky.social

No but it doesn't talk either. Although, some people still refer to their cars as "she" for whatever stupid reason.

aug 26, 2025, 11:05 am • 2 0 • view
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Emma Evans @trance.bsky.social

because boats and ships are 'she'

aug 26, 2025, 11:06 am • 2 0 • view
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ajc-mis.bsky.social @ajc-mis.bsky.social

Boats and ships don't have feelings either!

aug 26, 2025, 11:06 am • 1 0 • view
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Emma Evans @trance.bsky.social

the ocean is also a she which is interesting but no wommens on the boats it's bad luck

aug 26, 2025, 11:07 am • 1 0 • view
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Numbereightball @numbereightball.bsky.social

Of course we have feelings

aug 26, 2025, 11:11 am • 3 0 • view
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Tamara Keel @tamslick.bsky.social

Not that I’m aware of. 😂

aug 26, 2025, 11:03 am • 1 0 • view
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Kiraculous the Cyborg🏳️‍⚧️ @kiraculous.net

i think it's been more from the cultural ideas we've built up on/in scifi. you get all the automoton and their struggle for humanity stories from asimov and all the others, each one building up to the idea that a sufficiently complex machine could feel ways about stuff.

aug 26, 2025, 11:09 am • 4 0 • view
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Kiraculous the Cyborg🏳️‍⚧️ @kiraculous.net

so now we have these charletans claiming to have built a sufficiently complex machine (they haven't) so now we must question if it does indeed feel to prove if it is sufficiently complex.

aug 26, 2025, 11:09 am • 7 1 • view
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Kiraculous the Cyborg🏳️‍⚧️ @kiraculous.net

and it's frustrating because the entire point of the stories were to affirm the humanity of all humans and now we're searching for the humanity in machines at a time where we are being pressured in many ways to deny the humanity of certain humans.

aug 26, 2025, 11:21 am • 4 0 • view
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joe/иосиф @24fps.bsky.social

"Does Your Jalopy Feel The Blues?" -The Saturday Evening Post

aug 26, 2025, 11:04 am • 9 1 • view