We KNOW WHY!😭🤬🤯

That’s a great question, Ron. Can’t wait to hear Karoline answer that one.

Capitalists will never go for it. That would require them to pay enough to meet their slaves’ needs.

Good point!

I have yet to see any serious reporter ask this question.

Kind of like if everyone needs to get a job to have health insurance, why do only 46% of employers in the U.S. offer health insurance? Business is never held accountable. And I’m tired of politicians not discussing it.

Agreed. Republicans are very comfortable with their supporters going bankrupt and becoming homeless after a lifetime of work due to a chronic illness. Dems appear very uncomfortable calling out Republicans on this point.

Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D, RI) has a video series about the capturing of the SC in order to bend the law favorably toward business interests. This is partly why corporations are not held accountable for this long-running exploitation. youtube.com/playlist?lis...

I was there for it.

Senator Sheldon Whitehouse should be in the White House! That alone would make America Great!

I like Senator whitehouse

Because their campaign donations buy them immunity.

The convicted felon doesn’t want to admit culpability for anything ever! He’s just a weak cowardly convicted criminal who has owned a whole segment of society because they allow their hate to control their choices!

Absolutely

Like arresting all the drug users and not the dealers

The majority of Hispanics coming here think TWAM: Trans activists shouldn't take their side here.

Support for human rights isn't conditional. It's the same reason we support Palestinian human rights, regardless of what they think about gay people. Besides, that's not even a massive majority.

->Support for human rights isn't conditional. What about human rights for Nazis? It probably would be conditional then; the left talks about punching Nazis all the time (so no human rights for them then). If transphobes are Nazis, then the left should treat minority groups the same way.

Civility and human rights are different you obtuse asshole

Fine. Is punching Nazis simultaneously not being civil to them while giving them human rights? Because I thought punching violated their bodily autonomy (aka human rights). Flipping a Nazi off is merely not being civil.

It's well documented that in the past the farm owners would get undocumented workers, and as the time was closing to make the payments, they would call the police on them, so they didn't have to pay them nothing, and very likely farm owners with a good position in US society, US is broken.

It’s not just the USA, humanity is broken. The laws are on the side of men. Men make the laws so…..

I really hope that you understand that in EU if some big farmer does that he can end up in jail...but in US he abuse the people, call the cops on them, and gets a medal, so the US citizens can have the cheap food, and he gets the all the profits

Jail/prison is one of the stupidest concepts known to humanity.

It's definitely depends what systems the countries have, if somehow the prison system is similar to the one in Norway it's win win for everyone, but US it's getting far from it, and worse with concentration camp Alligator Alcatraz

I think you meant 'anything' where you wrote "nothing"; it has the opposite meaning.

They pay the abused workers... nothing...but on the news, it's only illegal workers arrested, they will never mention that the big farmers behind abuse the workers and the "system" goes along for the ride, it's been like that for decades

True. What you initially said was the opposite of what you intended; it is a common error among people. Eg., didn't pay nothing = paid something.

It’s kinda like why they arrest hookers, not the johns. These GUYS get a pass

White male mediocrity….. Mediocre white men continuing to ‘fail up’-disgusting….

I’d say the pimps are a more appropriate parallel. The ones who take all the profit but none of the risk or liability

Either one or both, john & pimp, should be arrested. That’s the real crime

Uhh.. sex work shouldn't be illegal at all. Sex trafficking should

Where does this supposedly happen? Definitely seen John’s get arrested..

Especially when so many sex workers are victims of trafficking

Right so!

Because that would solve 50% of the migrant problem, deport those caught crossing at non designated areas to the end of the line at designated crossing points that’s another 25%, then hire necessary immigration staff and Border control personnel, there’s the other 25% if republicans allowed that ?

Laws are only for the poor and people of colour

Cuz ICE would have to arrest the ORANGE TURD for having immigrants in his hotels, on his golf courses ...

Bingo!

American people should all sue Tom Homan for pushing the lie. Sue him for allowing criminals, rapists and murderers into our country. When he goes through discovery, he'll prove it didn't happen. We win! They are robbing our government-all of them should be audited.

TY-saying for months- Is Tom (I've been doing this for 35 yrs and worked for 6 presidents) Homan going to hold companies to the letter of the law? You are the 2nd one. At the end of the debate with Shady Vance, Tim Waltz told him the law has been on books for 25 yrs. These people are full of shit.

That's why they """donate""" to republicans.

This White may actually arrive.

Cause they fund our crooked congress?

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Trump is mulling over a scheme in which immigrants' owners can keep them if they take responsibility for them. Yes, slavery is back.

In full force❗️

This is the exact problem with WH PRESS. Why aren't they asking this?

See: 8 U.S. Code § 1324a

Right? Round up all farmers, construction companies, Amazon owner, food delivery owners, taxi companies, you know the entire infrastructure while laying off Fed workers Sounds like a purrrfect plan to destroy America. 🚬😎

Tell that to Amazon, Walmart, and McKinsey & company.

1. Remove workers to weaken farmers. 2. Force non-able bodied people off of Medicaid. 3. Force the farmers to oversee them or lose their livelihood. In other words - bring back Slavery. Control the food supply.

This Trump Administration there are massive joke I cannot wait till they impeach this fool and get rid of these other nuts that are supporting him they really do need to be put in prison probably the prison said making for everybody else so they know what it feels like.😒👏🤡

I do .

“Follow the money”

They'd have to arrest trump and a bunch of his ultra wealthy cronies.

Inquiring minds want to know.

Because America's legally system is based on who has money for high priced lawyers and who doesn't. White collar capitalist crime is rarely given more than a slap on the wrist.

kinda like when prostitutes are arrested most times, the johns are not.

I’ve been saying this for years. If they jail the employers it would be the end of it all. Can’t do that to poor little wealthy Americans.

What about trump and his underpaid employees?

That would be too reasonable

Immigrants crushed my dreams of harvesting crops in unbearable heat, Florida man says

Can we start with everyone Trump has hired? Other than his asinine cabinet what about his landscapers, maids, butlers, pool boys, etc….

As much as I hate to say this... call Ice on his Florida beach house. And see how much employees get dragged out bexause of his new "big beautiful bill"

been saying it for years

That is what I always ask. If they didn’t get hired they would not come. 😱

because they falsify names and give fake social sec numbers

Which can be easily checked?

You can buy a packet of valid information. Yes, it's identity theft. But as far as an employer is concerned if the worker supplies information that passes the check then they're in the clear. The workers are then paying taxes into SS and Medicare for benefits they'll probably never receive.

And yet somehow, ignorant Americans think they’re leeches, not paying taxes. We have the dumbest people. 😒

Which don’t check out. Which means you don’t hire them.

Agree a million %

BC the Donors get a Stay out of Jail Pass

Yeah, get their asses all the way too

THIS is supposed to be about MS-13 and other gang/cartel , not about WORKERS!

Anyone who ever believed that’s who they were after was deluded.

White supremacy.

??

They're probably saying the MS-13 angle was used as a foot in the door tactic to swerve and actually go after immigrants.

It was ever thus.

Probably because they support old Orange Voting against yourselves is a strange hobby Simple This is a organized criminal cult

… simple reason - One more reason to arrest the Felon. I’m sure his hotels & golf courses have more undocumented brown people than legal!

This has been my question.

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Because maybe they’re white? Just a guess.

Exactly!

That’s a valid question. Accountability should apply to both sides workers trying to survive and employers knowingly breaking the law. Selective enforcement only deepens the injustice.

THE REAL QUESTION. THE REAL QUESTION IS SIMPLE. WHY ARE THEY NOT IN HUGE CITIES AT NIGHT ARRESTING GUN CARRYING THIEVES AND GANG MEMBERS & DRUG DEALERS ETC. WHY ARE THEY NOT ON THE " INFAMOUS " BORDER WHERE ALL THE CRIMINALS COME FROM, AS THEY SAID A MILLION X ?? MORONS.

In all honesty all the resources and money we're sinking into ICE would be better spent if they'd use it all on actual crime.\ But that means the LARP police would have to actually endanger themselves instead of punching down being bullies

Funding ICEs is building Trump’s army. Ready to help him stay in power. Ready to fight US Militaries.

because their white

They are mostly White

Why would Trump arrest his own supporters??

To cover his own ass. You forget or maybe you have it this is a weak man who knows no bounds but the cover has on ass at any cost. His mama didn't even like him or trust him🤔🙄👏🤡

Cause they're not illegal just undocumented which is not a crim!

Then why are they hiring them? You think they should have a pass???

Trump would have to shut down MaraLago.

Because this is America where, throughout history, industry genocides with governmental support.

That question is decades old, sad to say....

that's a part of the catch though lol. their actions dictate that people want reform to immigration laws, not to open the back door for a little to throw anyone and everyone you can out it. it solves nothing. the rules are the same and can be bent the same.

You're right and, maybe to make exactly that point, we should be protesting this bullshit.

they're not dumb they've created a million different talking points that are hard to bundle under a cool catch phrase. the more they threw at the wall the more it desensitized the mass. most people are embarrassed to continue to hate everything they read in the news. it's a master class.

So now we learn. Reverse engineer everything they've done and throw it back at them. If they burn books, we burn swastikas. If they try to take away votes we shoild be out knocking on republican doors insisting they re-register just to be sure. They bring cops we move the protest... 2 blocks will do

I hope! But the Democrats don't seem to garner the same type of energy from any fan base. Republicans make their fans ravenous, and they only care for hurting others. I wish for an overcorrection the other way but it sure seems like a one sided situation trump years vs dem years.

It is not possible to change anything without gaining control of the supreme court and giving its decisions teeth. We are a country of laws-that-are-whatever-he-says-they-are. Wishing will get us nothing and there will be no dem years unless we wreck the trmp years, starting now. He cannot succeed

Funny that

Whoa now Nelly. whoa. You mean that the people who hired them. The ones who put in the paperwork about their workforce? You mean these misunderstood farmers. You mean the people who have been exploiting these migrants workers. You mean the people who underpay and reap the rewards. F k Yeah

Cause Shitler is one of them …🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Capitalism has a policy of appeasement with owners that don't pay their workers.

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The very simple answer is white before your eyes. Maybe the wrongs of the owners pales in comparison to the wrongs of immigrants. Maybe it’s the difference between white and wrong?

Tried thinking of some reasons but my mind came up blanc :/

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That would be a better place to start, if they are white, nothing will happen .

From what I understand, this is happening, but the business owners taking the fall are overwhelmingly contractors or franchisees of much larger corporations, who have plausible deniability and are never punished at scale.

SAY IT LOUDER!

Kind of like going after the Trafficked instead of the Traffickers, eh? Follow the money. Always follow the money.

I could have wrote this verbatim. It’s always for the money.

Rational common sense is fake news. Apparently. 🙄

there not arresting "workers" their arresting criminals. I would stop listening to MSNBC and jazzy crocket and focus a little more on the truth. worst first remember?

Isn’t it illegal to arrest rich white people?

The way the system is rigged, you are correct!

Trump would be arrested if business owners were arrested for hiring undocumented people. If the business owners were arrested, they would pressure Congress to enact law that would make the immigration process more efficient, fair, less costly. Labor cost would rise but owners would benefit too.

It's DOJ policy not to arrest the sitting president no matter what. And out of office, Trump didn't even spend a single day in jail after organising an attempted coup. So no they wouldn't.

maybe we all need to infiltrate ICE and make this happen

I suspect we would never be hired because we can’t fake the loyalty to Agent Orange necessary on the loyalty test.

Because the white ‘slave’ owner bribes the system and pays court officials for protection?!…

The whole idea of illegal immigration is a joke. You could stop it instantly by fining employers a million dollars per instance, but you’ll never see that even suggested. No one wants to admit that we have a pseudo-slave system where we use migrant labor to do jobs Americans don’t want to do.

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Exactly - I've been saying this forever and it is good to read it from someone else.

An immigrant is in the USA without permission when the USA withdraws permission. Illegal immigration expands when the USA withdrawing permission. Haitian refugees become illegal when the Administration withdrew protected status. Reducing the scope of the laws reduced 'illegal' immigration.

Watch when America releases all the immigrants they’ve locked up so they can work for their freedom in America. It’s going to be straight slavery. Same people doing the same work; but for no pay. Hate this country and Trump.

We could destroy this entire system by modernizing our broken immigration system. We don’t even need to “punish” the companies (though we should for many things) we could just make these workers equal in the eyes of the law, Equal pay, equal benefits, equal rights.

What a billionaire-brained idea. Why not just give them all legal status?

The point isn’t that it’s something we should do. It’s that pretending this is a huge insoluble problem is a farce. The answer is comprehensive reform, but literally right now Republicans are fascists and Democrats have their thumb up their ass.

Insane to me that democrats have not been hammering on this point for decades Oh wait Those employers are also big dem donors Nvm

MAGAs will use our existing laws to punish those they don’t like for allegedly committing crimes while conveniently ignoring those laws to protect their own supporters from those same laws! The is the definition of both “Hypocrisy” and the “Double Standard”! This is quite typical of the GOP ethic!

Yup, Canada has removed its visa requirements for Mexican citizens, & they don’t overstay in mass scale because Canada actually goes after the companies hiring undocumented workers. The humane thing to do is give path to residency & then target the employers/temp agencies.

Exactly. Afraid of people stealing jobs, if that's the case, you solve it by making it illegal for companies to hire them, and like you said, make it EASIER for people to become documented residents. That way you can track them, and also HELP them.

You mean like what Biden proposed!? www.pbs.org/newshour/pol... A path towards citizenship was thrown out in favor of concentration camps and $170 billion for state sponsored terrorism. #JustICE

Didn't hear about this, which is even more frustratingly sad. Of course it didn't really break through to my corner of the internet/world.

The bill that just passed gave ICE $170 billion, $45B to build Prisons,$46.6 B for a border wall, $10B fund to reimburse DHS for costs related to “safeguard[ing] the borders, $29.9B toward ICE’s enforcement and deportation operations. Caps emigration judges at 800. 2025 budget was $11 Billion.

1.1 million people will get trafficked through ICE. But we can’t have health care. Employees don’t get penalized, but the I populace sure does with higher costs & taxes. www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/press-releas...

This is the truth.

Good question

SINCE REAGAN ARREST THE EMPLOYERS

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they should do that too because it's borderline slave labor and i think most right wingers would be in favor of that since theyre all "woke" companies anyway

By definition, woke companies wouldn't hire slave labour.

"real wokeness has never been tried" okay then, call them "fake-woke companies". but all im saying that's what chuds call them but by definiton a true christian wouldnt be a nationalist so never say christian nationalism ever again! /s

Which companies? They certainly don't see farms as woke?

Amazon, Coca Cola, Disney, Ben & Jerry's, Walmart, for example. Fucking throw a can you'll find a company chuds hate because they think it's "woke" And yeah they do think farms have "gone woke" because they "wont hire whites." Have you seen these people?

Because this is legal slavery and business owners are slave masters… it’s sickening.

There are several videos out there showing the living conditions that these people are subjected to. The old shack that they live in are deplorable and the pay is below minimum wage. They work seven days a week and after the fields are completed they move to the next job. It’s sad!

Starting with the owner of Mar a Lago.

And that's how you know it's about brown people and not about the law.

I use to bring this up all the time back in the late 90's when employing illegal immigrants kicked into high gear because businesses figured out how much $ they could make by skirting immigration + labor laws. No 1 wanted to talk about it, at all.

True!!!!!!

If immigrants are willing to work on deadly boring and physically demanding jobs on the farms they are surely the kind of workers that the USA should welcome into the country. Why not give them documents which will entitle them to stay for those jobs? To come and go for harvesting times etc.?

Then they’d be entitled to compensation in line with minimum wage laws, diminishing profits margins. We’re in the stages of unregulated capitalism where many industries can’t succeed without underpaying their workforce.

You're going to have to have a Depression again and think more about equality after. A few more CEOs defenestrating themselves might do it.

This goddamn country already gives me a depression.

I'm feeling very angry in the UK. I'm just watching a documentary of your Ruby Franke, the influencer and the way she treated her children. 😠

It’s the same for unlicensed contractors. The people that hire them never get in any trouble at all. The enablers cr8 the problem.

I've been thinking the same thing. This is how white privilege works.

Facts💯💯💯💯 because I have to🤔

I have been wondering this for months, correction years. I mean seriously and their argument that “all the documents they give us are so good, we can’t tell the difference”, to me is BS.

Truth

I have been asking this questions for years...

No worries now the plan is to have them be slave owners according to the orange psychopath

Cuz that would mean, white American = bad, illegal immigrant = victim, since business owners are taking advantage of their situation to avoid paying someone legal labor fees but that doesn’t really fit their narrative

A good point actually.

Great point.

Exactly!

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Because money.

If not fascism, why fascism shaped?

I’ve been asking the same

For decades I have asked that. If illegal workers are left alone and hirers get big fines and jail time, hiring illegals would end. No impetus to come to USA. Legal temporary workers could become the new farm workers. Seems a no brainer.

@papst-ny.bsky.social

Been asking this since the 90s… 🫤

That will hit trump hard

Actually many employers have been fined and many more are under investigation. Thank you for your interest in this criminal enterprise

Some billionaires have been "fined". 😏

It's not a capital punishment offense Mr. SomeBody 😆

For the same reasons low level drug dealers get life in prison!

Because republican politicians and their donors would be arrested. And because the democratic old guard thinks it results in cheaper prices. Because the exploiting republicans told them so.

How many Republicans would have to be arrested?

Been saying this for years!!!!

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Are you suggesting that Republican law makers would know how to make a law and understand the logistics of the law they just made?

Exactly 😉.

exactly 💯👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Same reason only the sex worker goes to jail.

Arrest those business owners…

Same reason only prostitutes get arrested and not the creeps who pay them.

Not the rich ones.

Wait they don’t ?

Class hath privilege 🙄 (And I was going to respond in almost the same words)

Solicitation is a pretty common conviction.

Good point actually

No, it’s not true

That’s not true though

Do you see trump in jail? The rich ones never get arrested.

I want to see Central Valley farmers (“Pelosi created the drought”) dragged into white vans wearing handcuffs.

your absolutely right

A good first step would be to determine who they are and avoid their stock and products.

EXACTLY

The 6 million dollar question.

Makes sense, that’s why! 😂 bsky.app/profile/bria...

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Yes, I've said that for years. But for the employers committing an illegal act, that law would not have been broken. No one forced American employers to hire undocumented workers, it was just good for their bottom line$.

Bingo!! Why indeed? Ask Thune and Johnson

Arrest the owners who hire them….

Those business owners are going to go bankrupt very soon!

you hurt them in their wallets, then you go after them criminally, that way they can't afford legal fees

Million dollar question....😵‍💫

Business owners contribute to campaigns.

They pay bribes to their politicians!

It's easier to go after the low hanging fruit instead of upsetting vested interests.

Seems like a good question, doesn't it

Long standing question. Still no answers.

That’s all fotus hired.

I’ve said that for years. If they really wanted to end the desire to come here, they would arrest and fine the managers, CEO’s, owners of businesses that hire undocumented workers.

Make the BBB, the state, and local Chambers of Commerce list what businesses have been caught doing this, and where is the consumer protection?

Consumer protection got butt fucked and obliterated by musk because he didn't want to be investigated anymore and saw them as a barrier to his industry. www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6zX...

Yep.

Sometimes they face fines but that's it!

That has always been a great unanswered question.

U hit the nail on the head. If we wanted 2 really end illegal immigration Congress should have passed a law that highly fines an employer who hires illegals. The law currently allows employers off the hook & they don’t have 2 use e-verify on hires! Illegal migrants would decrease quickly if no job

I have been wondering this for years.

Because they don't want to arrest the real criminals.

It’s just another Epstein situation…

If you can screen for drug use, you can screen for citizenship (or green card status).

VERY GOOD QUESTION! Could it have anything to do with the color of their skin???

Absolutely !!! It’s absolutely ridiculous!!!

That has been my thought from the very beginning. These companies willingly hired the immigrants. When will someone hold them accountable?

Because that would mean trump and probably half his cronies would be arrested

Exactly!

That’s like punishing the staff at a hospital when it’s the thieves at the top scheming and conniving that are the villains🧐😲🫢😑They do the crimes WE do the time🤬👊⏰

Because only the greedists win in America. In Greed We Trust USA

I have been asking this for a decade or more.

100% you dont hired so called illegals employers know this !

Why are they arresting essential workers at the job site in the first place? It's not about national security. Its about hatred.

You're right, they should be.

I’ve been asking this question for decades.

Enforcing fines for the employer would stop that hiring dead in its tracks.

But who will they find to do the work?

They may not find anyone. Make no mistake, they will find a group that they will try and force to do it. These ppl believe in forced labor. Trump has already mentioned Medicaid recipients should do that work. All 34M of them. There are not 34M ppl living on Medicaid.

Are we great yet?

Money.

The only time i remember a CEO being arrested was a visibly Jewish guy in Iowa. Trump commuted his sentence.

Im looking at you, Kid Rock

This 100%

Because Racism

Not only is this glaringly true and nothing new but now he wants to let those same folks “own” their immigrant workers.

Does that make the business an "illegal business"?

I guess you haven’t figured out, life isn’t fair.

It's as if these kinds of expansive laws that would on their face mean everyone involved could be arrested actually just give law enforcement officers and prosecutors discretion to selectively enforce based on whoever they don't like the look of

Also, the folks hiring illegal immigrants have money to spend on lobbying and are politically influential. That's why we "can't" seem to fix immigration- really, if they enforced like they meant it, industrial sectors (you know the ones, that depend on cheap migrant labor) could collapse

Our Immigration enforcement and Labor enforcement guys don't go after wealthy or powerful people- if they did that would disrupt their supply of cheap labor and they know their job is to maintain that as a status quo

Good question.

Good question

Boom.

Not only is Trump NOT going after businesses that hire immigrants, he calls people like farmers and such "owners". if this isn't slavery at worst or indentured servitude at best I don't know what is.

it's like arresting junkies and not the drug dealers who sell to them. arresting a few employers would stop the entire BS. nobody would hire illegals. too risky. but see, they need the game. it's about enforcing cruelty upon brown people, while using prison workforces to pay even less for labor.

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People who hire these undocumented are now being give special status so that they CAN have undocumented workers... there has been NO information about minimum wages, working conditions or the rights of said workers. (is this how slavery happens?)

Yup In one form or another, Americans and immigrants are being enslaved.

Double standards are not new, but have become very visible under this regime

Why does anyone need to be arrested for employing people who WANT to work? Putting in a hard day's work, feeding their own family, and contributing to the US economy should not be a crime.

….aaaahhhh??? That is a very good question!

and why is Ice not in every drumpf property

Trump Paid $1.4 Million in a Dispute Over Undocumented Workers. Read the Newly Unsealed Legal Papers Still hires them to this day...Florida and NY Golf Courses. NY can send police to raid the golf corse in up state NY...It would

be best when there fucker is there and he watches will his White National employees get arrested... time.com/5039109/dona...

The business owners have good lobbyists? 🤷‍♂️

It’s at least conspiracy.

President Trump is unpredictable, power, is transient and he will be surprised how soon his terms will be over.

arrest them and put them out of business.

This!!!!

Skin color and money?

It was ever thus. Prostitutes were arrested but never their clients. Men rape women but it’s the women who can get pregnant and the men who deny them health care. The men in power never pay the price.