People are booing you, but you're right. If Steam, a company with 3749837% the market share of Itch, decided in the same crisis "it's less risky to just drop these games" then what possible leverage could Itch hold to force Visa to change course?
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"oh well Itch should just refuse Visa's business" great! visa will lose 0.000000001% of their revenue and Itch will blink out of existence immediately. masterful
jul 24, 2025, 4:46 pm • 7 0 • view
The only ppl who think he’s right are people who seem to think visa and PayPal are the only ways to buy things lol
jul 24, 2025, 4:55 pm • 19 0 • view
meanwhile here in the real world, it's fundamentally impossible to run a major digital storefront without being able to accept visa or paypal
jul 24, 2025, 5:16 pm • 6 0 • view
that said, if an individual dev wants to accept ACH / cash / take on the risk themselves (say, use a personal Paypal account) but still deliver through Itch, good news - that option already exists: bsky.app/profile/bbbb... but, again, you can't run an entire storefront on this. you simply can't
jul 24, 2025, 5:23 pm • 6 0 • view
do you think Visa is able to unilaterally dictate policy to vendors because everyone really likes them if you go to your real bank that all us Vincent Adultmen here have and ask them to issue an electronic transfer, they will give you a visa debit card. don't like that? wire transfers are $20 each
jul 24, 2025, 8:56 pm • 2 0 • view
"kowtow to fascism as long as it means to throw others under the bus" is actually not the right thing to do
jul 24, 2025, 6:00 pm • 7 0 • view
afaict the card processors and Collective Shout are the aggressors here, not the indie webpage forced into capitulation by the global financial system
jul 24, 2025, 6:02 pm • 1 0 • view
You realize that this excuse was used to support things like Jews being excluded from public schools right?
jul 24, 2025, 7:17 pm • 4 0 • view
all things are all exactly the same all the time
jul 24, 2025, 8:01 pm • 1 0 • view
if they capitulated, then they're part of the problem. not only that, they did it silently as well. they didn't even try to resist. they had months to mobilize people, but chose to do nothing instead. defending that is the same as saying nazi soldiers was just following orders, they're not innocent
jul 24, 2025, 6:06 pm • 7 0 • view
mobilize people to do what
jul 24, 2025, 6:09 pm • 0 0 • view
Exactly what people have taken the initiative to do now: go after Visa and MC directly. We're calling, we're emailing, we're not letting them know peace. Itch had the opportunity to take the lead on this, to rally support. Instead, they chose to do nothing and capitulate without warning.
jul 24, 2025, 6:13 pm • 7 0 • view
Why do you think they had that option? That is not how business relationships work.
jul 24, 2025, 6:49 pm • 1 0 • view
Precisely. With how they've chosen to do things, their company is doomed. The niche indie scene, the only thing keeping it afloat, has collectively turned on it. Now, what's best? To fight oppression and win/at least be remembered as a hero, or bend their knee and be remembered as fools?
jul 24, 2025, 6:21 pm • 6 0 • view
look it's easy to say "well if I was in charge I would have blown up the site" but that is because you are not in charge of a site that provides income and community for many thousands of marginalized people. if you WERE in that position, you'd have takes more like this: bsky.app/profile/anil...
jul 24, 2025, 6:13 pm • 3 0 • view
working with itch? buddy, itch didn't even warn its users this was going on. they were never interested in organizing anything to begin with. that's the whole fucking point we're making, THEY DIDN'T EVEN TRY. they just made a post saying they'll comply and demanding everyone else does too
jul 24, 2025, 6:41 pm • 5 1 • view
What do you want them to try to do right now?
jul 24, 2025, 7:23 pm • 0 0 • view
Calls! Emails! Letters! Constant never ending stream of them
jul 24, 2025, 7:18 pm • 2 0 • view
What do you expect them to do? If payment processors banned them it means nobody get pays shit cause you can't buy. This will also affect creators not just them. They're a small company. Even Steam which has monopoly to games caved in.
jul 24, 2025, 10:14 pm • 0 0 • view
If they de-list their games, nobody gets paid because you can no longer buy the games. This will affect creators as they can no longer sell their games on the platform. They may be a small company, but they have an active customer base with experience in direct action.
jul 24, 2025, 10:17 pm • 2 0 • view
Seems like you agree with me then.
jul 24, 2025, 10:20 pm • 0 0 • view
If that's your takeaway, you really need to work on your reading comprehension.
jul 24, 2025, 10:23 pm • 2 0 • view