Ok, cool - but Alice Cooper put on a show that appealed to people artistically - plus he had lots of really good music

He was still arena rock, so what point are youbtrying to make?

You do know what I mean: Aerosmith, Van Halen, Mötley Crüe, Asia, and so on - it's not just the venue, it's the type of music ... Bon Jovi? ... Guns N' Roses?

All bands that came AFTER punk…

But punk is still going even after that era crashed and burned

Because we still remember what selling out is and means

I didn't even know who 45 Grave were! they seem cool - certainly a lot cooler than the top forty used to be

Oh yea, they were a hell of a band… lead singer used to pick his needle tracks and shake blood out over the audience

Sounds bloody gross!

That was the point